subaru sti... - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

Machy uno · 01-14-2009, 10:01 AM

who alls run one? It was cold out (and the road was damp, not wet...houston humidity) so I knew he would take me off the line, but by 60 I still hadn't caught him

. He beat me all the way down the quarter...even more so then the previous time I went against a subaru. The only other time I raced one at the track he beat me down the 1/4, but only by .1 or so and my mph was 102 and his wasn't even 100. Since I've done a few things since then I thought I woulda done better. Like I said, I knew his 4wd would make him jump out faster then me, but I didn't think it would be so fast I wouldn't be able to catch him....

so I'm getting headers this week, and and xpipe a week or two from know, and they should be installed by next month....think that will help me out any

Mach351 · 01-14-2009, 10:08 AM

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buzzzsaw · 01-14-2009, 10:30 AM

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Why??? He said he was going down the 1/4

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who alls run one? It was cold out (and the road was damp, not wet...houston humidity) so I knew he would take me off the line, but by 60 I still hadn't caught him. He beat me all the way down the quarter

ttown · 01-14-2009, 10:33 AM

Sounds like you need some seat time. A 5 speed Mach properly driven should be low to mid 13's easy.
You should get a tune I think your A/F is off and when you add the exhaust it's not going to get any better.

Awd This · 01-14-2009, 10:36 AM

IBTL

Stis are quick cars. They go low 13s bone stock and if the person knew how to drive it with bolt ons it would got low 12s. Chances are you just needed a drive mod and a set of drs to beat that one though. I races them by the dozens when my car was just bolt ons and never lost to one.

GRB60 · 01-14-2009, 10:36 AM

I think he meant to say the TRACK was damp....

Mach351 · 01-14-2009, 10:44 AM

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Why??? He said he was going down the 1/4,

prolly just semantics like saying "road" and meaning "track" but the really juicy topics seem to be frowned upon. not meaning any disrespect, just an observation.

Machy uno · 01-14-2009, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ttown

Sounds like you need some seat time. A 5 speed Mach properly driven should be low to mid 13's easy.
You should get a tune I think your A/F is off and when you add the exhaust it's not going to get any better.

The dampness kept me from really getting on it off the line, but I didn't have much spin. Its a guy I work with that was driving the sti and he's not positive, but thinks it has something done to it(bought it used off a lot). I have run my car to a best of 13.9 as my sig says, but that was with stock tires and at 3300 ft. Since then I've gotten better tires and alot more track time. I would say here in houston I could run it to low 13's on a good day, but haven't had a good day yet since I moved back, but that didn't stop this sti from beating me. I was catching up to him, so I know I was accelerating faster then him top end, but not enough to catch him. As to needing a tune...I completely agree. However because I'll most likely be getting a custom tune I'd like to wait till I get the headers and xpipe so I don't have to pay to get it done a second time....

one mach 1 · 01-14-2009, 11:38 AM

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The dampness kept me from really getting on it off the line, but I didn't have much spin. Its a guy I work with that was driving the sti and he's not positive, but thinks it has something done to it(bought it used off a lot). I have run my car to a best of 13.9 as my sig says, but that was with stock tires and at 3300 ft. Since then I've gotten better tires and alot more track time. I would say here in houston I could run it to low 13's on a good day, but haven't had a good day yet since I moved back, but that didn't stop this sti from beating me. I was catching up to him, so I know I was accelerating faster then him top end, but not enough to catch him. As to needing a tune...I completely agree. However because I'll most likely be getting a custom tune I'd like to wait till I get the headers and xpipe so I don't have to pay to get it done a second time....

Et streets with a 5000+ clutch dump after a good burn out will launch ya ahead of him, and he won't catch ya..He will have a view of your

Machy uno · 01-14-2009, 11:43 AM

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Et streets with a 5000+ clutch dump after a good burn out will launch ya ahead of him, and he won't catch ya..He will have a view of your

lol...I would love to have tires on the mach that would let me dump the clutch at 5000....if I dump the clutch at anything more then 2500 and keep the gas down I spin all the way through 1st and 2nd.....

holzmach · 01-14-2009, 12:20 PM

just keep racing him and eventually you will win bc he will loose his tranny

DannyStyle22 · 01-14-2009, 02:31 PM

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just keep racing him and eventually you will win bc he will loose his tranny

lol I say practice makes perfect... I ran 13.2 with minor boltons and a perfect day out here in AZ.
I have raced a couple stis at the track and they rip the heck out of me from the line but by the top of 2nd usually start pulling them back in.

mach1 03 · 01-14-2009, 02:37 PM

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lol...I would love to have tires on the mach that would let me dump the clutch at 5000....if I dump the clutch at anything more then 2500 and keep the gas down I spin all the way through 1st and 2nd.....

you would have to build the rear end, 5k rpm clutch dump DR and stock rear end would not last long.

oxfordmach · 01-14-2009, 06:44 PM

oh boy!

MachWonGuy · 01-14-2009, 06:51 PM

My neighbor has one and seems to think he is the king of the street

I dont imagine I am going to try to take the title away from him due to 1. They are pretty darn quick and 2. I don't have any intentions to race my Mach. I thought they were a high 12Sec car.

oxfordwhitemach · 01-14-2009, 07:11 PM

I have beaten a STi with exhaust in my bone stock Mach 1... Can't share any further details because of rules.

DannyStyle22 · 01-14-2009, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by oxfordwhitemach

I have beaten a STi with exhaust in my bone stock Mach 1... Can't share any further details because of rules.

lol its easy to do it the way you are talking about... A dig on the other hand is tough.

Machy uno · 01-14-2009, 07:36 PM

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lol its easy to do it the way you are talking about... A dig on the other hand is tough.

yup..like I said I was gaining on him up top, but his out of the hole was SO much better then mine it was rediculous. I asked him how he launched (stock tires mind you)..."I reved it to 5k, and dumped the clutch...had a short squeel from the tires and I was off." He also added that his clutch was burning to ***** and smelled really bad, and he wasn't sure how much of that it could take....

I'm pretty sure from a role I would have taken him.

cobramach1 · 01-15-2009, 08:05 AM

I wouldn't feel too bad. The sti is lighter than the Mach and rated at nearly the same hp. The thing about it is with the addition of a boost controller the sti should easily be able to up the power by the tap of a button up another 40-60hp. The only non-Ford I ever owned was a twin turbo Dodge Stealth. It too was awd and was also a 300hp car, but it also weighed in at nearly 4000# so needed all that power to get it moving. I did install a boost controller and got it up to around 360hp which made it quite a bit quicker for sure, but the transmission in that car was a piece of junk. I will say one thing though it handled like it was on rails around corners with the awd and all wheel steering with the sport suspension turned on which made it quite a stiff ride. It was a fun car, but I've never had to put so much money into a car because there always seemed to be something wrong with it.

Brown7 · 01-15-2009, 09:55 AM

hes talking about bay town or Houston motersports speedway or whatever of course.. maan yall will pounce on someone quick

beckerb · 01-15-2009, 10:31 AM

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I have beaten a STi with exhaust in my bone stock Mach 1... Can't share any further details because of rules.

You did ??? Come down to Piedmont when it opens. I would like to see your stock car run against the STIs there. I have never seen a stock Mack I do much better then 9s in the 1/8. I got a quick hundred bucks you can earn easy if you beat one .....

beckerb · 01-15-2009, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cobramach1

I wouldn't feel too bad. The sti is lighter than the Mach and rated at nearly the same hp. The thing about it is with the addition of a boost controller the sti should easily be able to up the power by the tap of a button up another 40-60hp. The only non-Ford I ever owned was a twin turbo Dodge Stealth. It too was awd and was also a 300hp car, but it also weighed in at nearly 4000# so needed all that power to get it moving. I did install a boost controller and got it up to around 360hp which made it quite a bit quicker for sure, but the transmission in that car was a piece of junk. I will say one thing though it handled like it was on rails around corners with the awd and all wheel steering with the sport suspension turned on which made it quite a stiff ride. It was a fun car, but I've never had to put so much money into a car because there always seemed to be something wrong with it.

Yep breakage is a factory option the the Stealth RT/TT. Mine runs the low 10s in the 1/4 and I keep two replacement transmissions in stock.....I have a lot more fun with my MACH at the track and if it breaks the parts are very reasonable compared the the Stealth....

ZincDude · 01-15-2009, 10:44 AM

I think a Mach vs an AWD car off the line you will lose especially if the track is damp. But by the 1/8th you should have hunted him down for the kill. Other than that ya seat time will help this.

beckerb · 01-15-2009, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ZincDude

I think a Mach vs an AWD car off the line you will lose especially if the track is damp. But by the 1/8th you should have hunted him down for the kill. Other than that ya seat time will help this.

I dont think so !!! STI are darn fast in the 1/8....They are surprising quick....

oxfordwhitemach · 01-15-2009, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by beckerb

You did ??? Come down to Piedmont when it opens. I would like to see your stock car run against the STIs there. I have never seen a stock Mack I do much better then 9s in the 1/8. I got a quick hundred bucks you can earn easy if you beat one .....

I did indeed beat an STi, although not under the circumstances that you have obviously assumed. Forum rules prohibit me from going into detail.

I will say that it wasn't from a dead stop. Also, I have been 8.69 in my Mach 1 on all season tires, but she blew up so I'm in the middle of an N/A build and I'll be throwing a big shot of spray on it. Piedmont sucks, you should try some different tracks.

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Machy uno Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: houston, texas Posts: 1,499	subaru sti... who alls run one? It was cold out (and the road was damp, not wet...houston humidity) so I knew he would take me off the line, but by 60 I still hadn't caught him. He beat me all the way down the quarter...even more so then the previous time I went against a subaru. The only other time I raced one at the track he beat me down the 1/4, but only by .1 or so and my mph was 102 and his wasn't even 100. Since I've done a few things since then I thought I woulda done better. Like I said, I knew his 4wd would make him jump out faster then me, but I didn't think it would be so fast I wouldn't be able to catch him.... so I'm getting headers this week, and and xpipe a week or two from know, and they should be installed by next month....think that will help me out any __________________ She was living in a single room with three other individuals. One of them was male and the other two, Well he!! the other two were females Gone but NOT FORGOTTEN http://www.cardomain.com/ride/330262 Last edited by Machy uno; 01-14-2009 at 10:26 AM.

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ttown Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 844	Re: subaru sti... Sounds like you need some seat time. A 5 speed Mach properly driven should be low to mid 13's easy. You should get a tune I think your A/F is off and when you add the exhaust it's not going to get any better. __________________ 2003 Mach 1 Azure Blue 5 speed SAE-280RWHP 307RWTQ, A/F 13 Stock except K&N 2500miles DOB- 6/23/03 2004 Mach 1 Torch Red- Auto DOB - 4/14/04 Sold to son 2002 GT-Mineral Gray 5 speed UPR Blue Thunder Shifter

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Awd This Got boost? Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,343	Re: subaru sti... IBTL Stis are quick cars. They go low 13s bone stock and if the person knew how to drive it with bolt ons it would got low 12s. Chances are you just needed a drive mod and a set of drs to beat that one though. I races them by the dozens when my car was just bolt ons and never lost to one. __________________ 03 mach - White 5spd IUP Born 6-9-03 Powered by Procharger 450rwhp 417rwtq

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cobramach1 Fear begins with 'FE' Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Orion Twp, MI Posts: 1,930	Re: subaru sti... I wouldn't feel too bad. The sti is lighter than the Mach and rated at nearly the same hp. The thing about it is with the addition of a boost controller the sti should easily be able to up the power by the tap of a button up another 40-60hp. The only non-Ford I ever owned was a twin turbo Dodge Stealth. It too was awd and was also a 300hp car, but it also weighed in at nearly 4000# so needed all that power to get it moving. I did install a boost controller and got it up to around 360hp which made it quite a bit quicker for sure, but the transmission in that car was a piece of junk. I will say one thing though it handled like it was on rails around corners with the awd and all wheel steering with the sport suspension turned on which made it quite a stiff ride. It was a fun car, but I've never had to put so much money into a car because there always seemed to be something wrong with it. __________________ '08 Shelby GT500 Black w/Alloy stripes '02 F250 Super Duty, 7.3L Power Stroke, 4x4, Extended Cab, Long Bed '70 Mach 1 Yellow/Black interior, 427 Medium Riser FE, Manual C6 '70 Mach 1 White/Vermillion interior, 351C 2v, Auto, A/C, needs restoration '70 Mach 1 Calypso Coral/Black interior, 351C 4v, Auto, very rusty parts car '69 Mach 1 Indian Fire Red/Black interior, R code 428CJ, 4spd, needs restoration

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ZincDude Slow Mach 1 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Miami, Fl Posts: 1,288	Re: subaru sti... I think a Mach vs an AWD car off the line you will lose especially if the track is damp. But by the 1/8th you should have hunted him down for the kill. Other than that ya seat time will help this.

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