SNOW: water-meth injection - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

rsnider · 09-18-2013, 01:13 PM

Has anyone used the Snow Injection system? In AZ the temps are really hot 80% of the year and the computer pulls out the timing at even a hind of predetination.

According the the Saturday motor-head shows the water/methinal injection can lower the intake temperature enough to stop the knock.

Any comments, suggestions, experience?

ShakeMe · 09-18-2013, 04:15 PM

Is your car NA or forced induction? I have a kit on my KB blown 91 coupe. It keeps the tip in knock away.

devildogmach · 09-18-2013, 04:51 PM

I keep reading the fast ford and 5.0 magazines and they keep putting this kit on N/a vehicles and making 20-40HP.

rsnider · 09-18-2013, 06:34 PM

My Mach is NA. It has a good tune, a 4k converter and 410's. If the temps are below 75 or 80 she will run in the 12.8's on a good track at 1500ft and a DA of about 2500ft. When the temps go up and the timing goes down she only runs in the 13.2's. When I had the Diablo I'd data log the runs. You could see the timing go from around 23 down to around 17 (it's been so long I think that's what I remember).

I was just wondering how you guys were doing that run the stuff.

ShakeMe · 09-18-2013, 07:15 PM

It can get pricey if you have a heavy right foot. I can see it helping an NA car keep its timing but it won't add HP without proper tuning. A case of Boost Cooler use to cost $49 + $20-25 for shipping. Think of it as a 25-30 shot of N2O but without having to worry about bottle pressure

rsnider · 09-18-2013, 08:58 PM

25hp would be great but I would be happy if it just kept the computer from messing with the timing.

USMCWeatherMan · 09-19-2013, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by rsnider

In AZ the temps are really hot 80% of the year

Tell me about it! I monitor engine parameters with the Torque app on my phone, cruising at highway speeds intake temps will be 110-115*. Sitting in traffic or at a stop light, they will peg up to 128-130*. Fall is coming though, next week in Yuma, temps are supposed to do to the low 90s. Can't wait car always drives better when it's cooler outside.

4a7191a · 09-19-2013, 09:43 AM

20 horses would be worth it and if its as good as a 30 shot of nos I might consider it myself . My mach is staying all motor and well I'm pretty much done with it. This might be something new for me

ShakeMe · 09-19-2013, 10:00 AM

Remember just throwing this on will NOT give HP. It will have to be tuned in.

09-18-2013, 01:13 PM	#1
rsnider Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,336	SNOW: water-meth injection Has anyone used the Snow Injection system? In AZ the temps are really hot 80% of the year and the computer pulls out the timing at even a hind of predetination. According the the Saturday motor-head shows the water/methinal injection can lower the intake temperature enough to stop the knock. Any comments, suggestions, experience?

09-18-2013, 04:15 PM	#2
ShakeMe Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: TX. Posts: 2,511	Re: SNOW: water-meth injection Is your car NA or forced induction? I have a kit on my KB blown 91 coupe. It keeps the tip in knock away. __________________ 03 Mach DSG Build Date 07/25/03 Feb 09 N2O 10.91 @ 124.21(1.55 60ft) Feb 09 NA 11.85 @ 112.87 (1.60 60ft)

09-18-2013, 04:51 PM	#3
devildogmach Rah Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: moyock Posts: 127	Re: SNOW: water-meth injection I keep reading the fast ford and 5.0 magazines and they keep putting this kit on N/a vehicles and making 20-40HP. __________________ 04 mach 1- 13.09@108.88 mac long tubes, lethal x, magnaflow,tri-ax,ram air, tune, 3.73

09-18-2013, 06:34 PM	#4
rsnider Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,336	Re: SNOW: water-meth injection My Mach is NA. It has a good tune, a 4k converter and 410's. If the temps are below 75 or 80 she will run in the 12.8's on a good track at 1500ft and a DA of about 2500ft. When the temps go up and the timing goes down she only runs in the 13.2's. When I had the Diablo I'd data log the runs. You could see the timing go from around 23 down to around 17 (it's been so long I think that's what I remember). I was just wondering how you guys were doing that run the stuff.

09-18-2013, 07:15 PM	#5
ShakeMe Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: TX. Posts: 2,511	Re: SNOW: water-meth injection It can get pricey if you have a heavy right foot. I can see it helping an NA car keep its timing but it won't add HP without proper tuning. A case of Boost Cooler use to cost $49 + $20-25 for shipping. Think of it as a 25-30 shot of N2O but without having to worry about bottle pressure __________________ 03 Mach DSG Build Date 07/25/03 Feb 09 N2O 10.91 @ 124.21(1.55 60ft) Feb 09 NA 11.85 @ 112.87 (1.60 60ft)

09-18-2013, 08:58 PM	#6
rsnider Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,336	Re: SNOW: water-meth injection 25hp would be great but I would be happy if it just kept the computer from messing with the timing.

09-19-2013, 09:43 AM	#8
4a7191a Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: beaumont texas Posts: 1,344	Re: SNOW: water-meth injection 20 horses would be worth it and if its as good as a 30 shot of nos I might consider it myself . My mach is staying all motor and well I'm pretty much done with it. This might be something new for me __________________ 2004white mach1 2001 svt lightning 2011 Mitsubishi Evo X 1999 F250 7.3L

09-19-2013, 10:00 AM	#9
ShakeMe Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: TX. Posts: 2,511	Re: SNOW: water-meth injection Remember just throwing this on will NOT give HP. It will have to be tuned in. __________________ 03 Mach DSG Build Date 07/25/03 Feb 09 N2O 10.91 @ 124.21(1.55 60ft) Feb 09 NA 11.85 @ 112.87 (1.60 60ft)

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