Is an Eaton worth it? And how much weight does it add? - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

Stopsign32v · 03-13-2013, 11:53 AM

What I'm wondering if the weight of the kit kinda takes away what it adds in power. I hate the idea of ADDING weight to my car but power is nice.

What times and mph are you eaton guys getting at the track?

SHAKN' 04 · 03-13-2013, 12:10 PM

80lbs give or take a few. I've personally seen a few eaton cars with 440/450hp go high-mid 11s all day trapping 118-122 using drag setup of course. You won't even notice the weight up front. Unless you go with a smaller pulley (3.4) then of course times should get faster and mph get higher. My personal best so far on my afs wheels with Mickey T's was 11.7 @ 126, full weight. Haven't been back since. Imo, with the extra power you'd make with the eaton, you won't notice the weight diff.

bleedingfordblu · 03-14-2013, 08:13 AM

Just do it lol

Stopsign32v · 03-14-2013, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bleedingfordblu

Just do it lol

I am!!! Lol dunno when tho, don't wanna chance blowing up the motor.

How does the STOCK trans do under eaton power? I'm either thinking about getting a t56 magnum ($2800) or building the motor ($???)

Flash88 · 03-14-2013, 12:34 PM

Im at 500 now with a ported eaton swap with the stock trans and i beat on my car almost every other day. been like this for almost a year now.

SHAKN' 04 · 03-14-2013, 12:49 PM

124k on my stock trans. Been sprayed on, bolt ons beat, eatonswap (510hp) and still shifts like day 1

Stopsign32v · 03-14-2013, 05:13 PM

Hmmmmmmmm but then IF I break it I'm SOLD. But if I get the trans instead I'm slow. lol

Stopsign32v · 03-14-2013, 05:17 PM

I'm really nervous about the Eaton on a stock shortblock. I've already blown one motor and do NOT want to do it to this one. But I think putting pistons and rods in these motors might have alot of "hidden fees". 450rwhp would be pushing it too much and 400rwhp would be too slow I think.

Wonder how fast an Eaton @ 400rwhp would be with 4.30 gears and a tire?

mach1z · 03-14-2013, 07:40 PM

So if you are running 12.5 now why not just spray it? Especially, if you are money conscious. Why would you pay 2-3k for less than a second improvement?

Flash88 · 03-14-2013, 07:54 PM

^^that. i would just put a 125 shot on for now. Then when your ready, sell the nitrous kit. Hell, i sold my nitrous kit for $50 more than i bought it for hahah.

Stopsign32v · 03-14-2013, 08:56 PM

I've thought about it. But doing a nitrous kit right with a bottle heater, window switch, tps switch, and all it starts to add up.

626socalstang · 03-15-2013, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v

I've thought about it. But doing a nitrous kit right with a bottle heater, window switch, tps switch, and all it starts to add up.

I ran a zex wet kit 125 shot with a bottle warmer from summit for almost a year until my first Mach got wrecked, ran great killing everything on the street/track with 412rwhp and 475lbs of torque the bottle fills is what kills you because theres no free refills

JaybTorchedMach · 03-15-2013, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 626socalstang

I ran a zex wet kit 125 shot with a bottle warmer from summit for almost a year until my first Mach got wrecked, ran great killing everything on the street/track with 412rwhp and 475lbs of torque the bottle fills is what kills you because theres no free refills

Nitrous is a lot of fun... but I hated that my bottle was always empty or I had to stop and open the valve haha

Stopsign32v · 03-15-2013, 09:13 AM

That's another reason. When I had spray on my 5.0 I remember one good pull in 3rd and 4th and the bottle was done. Was so annoying...

Flash88 · 03-15-2013, 09:57 AM

i got atleast 8 runs with one bottle.

GBMach · 03-15-2013, 10:28 AM

I'm still thinking of doing this myself, I can't decide on **** to save my life.

Pcmoore85 · 03-15-2013, 07:13 PM

mine is apart in garage getting eaton right now join the club

watman02 · 03-16-2013, 09:55 AM

+1^

JaybTorchedMach · 03-16-2013, 12:56 PM

Another one apart in the garage

uscstew · 03-17-2013, 10:42 AM

Notrous and t56 for the win. 7.0 at 100 making 42x/500. that was stock manifolds and stock intake and very few bolt ons and a 125 wet shot. I would get about 8 passes on a bottle. Most window switches have a tps activation. You would need a msd tach adapter ($30).

311-420 · 03-17-2013, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by uscstew

Notrous and t56 for the win. 7.0 at 100 making 42x/500. that was stock manifolds and stock intake and very few bolt ons and a 125 wet shot. I would get about 8 passes on a bottle. Most window switches have a tps activation. You would need a msd tach adapter ($30).

That's what i'm taking about. Cold, dense air.

F a heaton.

watman02 · 03-17-2013, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JaybTorchedMach

Another one apart in the garage

Yeah that was a mid Feb pic but it just keep F*cking snowing here and i lost all motivation...lol

Flash88 · 03-17-2013, 11:58 PM

i prefer my eaton > spray. even better i prefer my eaton WITH spray.

bleedingfordblu · 03-18-2013, 05:41 PM

with a safe tune and an eaton swap your bottom end will be fine so will your trans. i have a buddy with a termi swapped engine with a stock 3650 and launches with slicks at the track with 490 ftlbs of tq. only broke one input shaft so at 400 ftlbs youll be fine imo. hell ive got stock bottom end and trans and im doing an eaton swap

03-13-2013, 11:53 AM	#1
Stopsign32v Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 2,554	Is an Eaton worth it? And how much weight does it add? What I'm wondering if the weight of the kit kinda takes away what it adds in power. I hate the idea of ADDING weight to my car but power is nice. What times and mph are you eaton guys getting at the track? __________________ 03 white Mach1 JLT RAI \| 1/2 spacer \| Catback \| 4.56s 7.76@87.8mph

03-13-2013, 12:10 PM	#2
SHAKN' 04 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kyle, Texas Posts: 2,285	Re: Is an Eaton worth it? And how much weight does it add? 80lbs give or take a few. I've personally seen a few eaton cars with 440/450hp go high-mid 11s all day trapping 118-122 using drag setup of course. You won't even notice the weight up front. Unless you go with a smaller pulley (3.4) then of course times should get faster and mph get higher. My personal best so far on my afs wheels with Mickey T's was 11.7 @ 126, full weight. Haven't been back since. Imo, with the extra power you'd make with the eaton, you won't notice the weight diff. __________________ SOLD04' Mach 1 -Comp Cams 106100's (deg 106/110) -Eatonswap with 3.4 Pulley -Full Exhaust (mac lts & xpipe, sss terminator c/b) -Built Rear w/ 3.55 gears [B]-Tuned by Lethal Performance of San Antonio -510hp/478tq

03-14-2013, 08:13 AM	#3
bleedingfordblu Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Leesburg, VA Posts: 1,985	Re: Is an Eaton worth it? And how much weight does it add? Just do it lol __________________ 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 Stock bottom end/compression Eaton M112 Stock upper Stock lower K&N intake Built T56 Bassani mid length headers Bassani catted x pipe Bassani slash cut tip catback Stock 03 Cobra IRS 18x9/10 Forgestar F14 Tuned by Chris Macduff at IMA motorsports 429hp 407 tq @ 7.5 lbs of boost

03-14-2013, 12:34 PM	#5
Flash88 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: jacksonville Posts: 664	Re: Is an Eaton worth it? And how much weight does it add? Im at 500 now with a ported eaton swap with the stock trans and i beat on my car almost every other day. been like this for almost a year now. __________________ ___________________________ 70mm single turbo.

03-14-2013, 12:49 PM	#6
SHAKN' 04 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kyle, Texas Posts: 2,285	Re: Is an Eaton worth it? And how much weight does it add? 124k on my stock trans. Been sprayed on, bolt ons beat, eatonswap (510hp) and still shifts like day 1 __________________ SOLD04' Mach 1 -Comp Cams 106100's (deg 106/110) -Eatonswap with 3.4 Pulley -Full Exhaust (mac lts & xpipe, sss terminator c/b) -Built Rear w/ 3.55 gears [B]-Tuned by Lethal Performance of San Antonio -510hp/478tq

03-14-2013, 05:13 PM	#7
Stopsign32v Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 2,554	Re: Is an Eaton worth it? And how much weight does it add? Hmmmmmmmm but then IF I break it I'm SOLD. But if I get the trans instead I'm slow. lol __________________ 03 white Mach1 JLT RAI \| 1/2 spacer \| Catback \| 4.56s 7.76@87.8mph

03-14-2013, 05:17 PM	#8
Stopsign32v Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 2,554	Re: Is an Eaton worth it? And how much weight does it add? I'm really nervous about the Eaton on a stock shortblock. I've already blown one motor and do NOT want to do it to this one. But I think putting pistons and rods in these motors might have alot of "hidden fees". 450rwhp would be pushing it too much and 400rwhp would be too slow I think. Wonder how fast an Eaton @ 400rwhp would be with 4.30 gears and a tire? __________________ 03 white Mach1 JLT RAI \| 1/2 spacer \| Catback \| 4.56s 7.76@87.8mph

03-14-2013, 07:40 PM	#9
mach1z Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Woodstock,GA Posts: 544	Re: Is an Eaton worth it? And how much weight does it add? So if you are running 12.5 now why not just spray it? Especially, if you are money conscious. Why would you pay 2-3k for less than a second improvement? __________________ I/E, 4:10's, tune

03-14-2013, 07:54 PM	#10
Flash88 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: jacksonville Posts: 664	Re: Is an Eaton worth it? And how much weight does it add? ^^that. i would just put a 125 shot on for now. Then when your ready, sell the nitrous kit. Hell, i sold my nitrous kit for $50 more than i bought it for hahah. __________________ ___________________________ 70mm single turbo.

03-14-2013, 08:56 PM	#11
Stopsign32v Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 2,554	Re: Is an Eaton worth it? And how much weight does it add? I've thought about it. But doing a nitrous kit right with a bottle heater, window switch, tps switch, and all it starts to add up. __________________ 03 white Mach1 JLT RAI \| 1/2 spacer \| Catback \| 4.56s 7.76@87.8mph

03-15-2013, 09:13 AM	#14
Stopsign32v Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 2,554	Re: Is an Eaton worth it? And how much weight does it add? That's another reason. When I had spray on my 5.0 I remember one good pull in 3rd and 4th and the bottle was done. Was so annoying... __________________ 03 white Mach1 JLT RAI \| 1/2 spacer \| Catback \| 4.56s 7.76@87.8mph

03-15-2013, 09:57 AM	#15
Flash88 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: jacksonville Posts: 664	Re: Is an Eaton worth it? And how much weight does it add? i got atleast 8 runs with one bottle. __________________ ___________________________ 70mm single turbo.

03-15-2013, 10:28 AM	#16
GBMach Ford Newbie Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Green Bay, WI Posts: 176	Re: Is an Eaton worth it? And how much weight does it add? I'm still thinking of doing this myself, I can't decide on **** to save my life.

03-15-2013, 07:13 PM	#17
Pcmoore85 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Mooresville Posts: 21	Re: Is an Eaton worth it? And how much weight does it add? mine is apart in garage getting eaton right now join the club

03-16-2013, 09:55 AM	#18
watman02 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Denver, Ia Posts: 443	Re: Is an Eaton worth it? And how much weight does it add? +1^ Attached Thumbnails __________________ mods:cai, flowmaster 40's, o/r x tune best et: 13.17@107mph & 8.56@84.5 1/8 new mods: spacer, 98 cobra cams 4.10's new times: 2.12 60' 1/8-8.44@85.97 1/4-13.0@109.76 New mods:Ported eaton swap divisonX 340 pump, 3.4 pulley@ 9#, 60# dekas, Lmaf, egr delete, aem wideband, ET streets TUNED by ME!....with SCT proracer softwear!! 482hp / 481tq new times:1.7-60' 1/8-7.724 @92.4 and 11.8 @118 1/4 00 SS Camaro M6 with 8.8 rear 3.73 gear. bolt on's and tune times: 1.8 60' 12.8 @111

03-16-2013, 12:56 PM	#19
JaybTorchedMach Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 1,746	Re: Is an Eaton worth it? And how much weight does it add? Another one apart in the garage

03-17-2013, 10:42 AM	#20
uscstew Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Greer, SC Posts: 420	Re: Is an Eaton worth it? And how much weight does it add? Notrous and t56 for the win. 7.0 at 100 making 42x/500. that was stock manifolds and stock intake and very few bolt ons and a 125 wet shot. I would get about 8 passes on a bottle. Most window switches have a tps activation. You would need a msd tach adapter ($30).

03-17-2013, 11:58 PM	#23
Flash88 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: jacksonville Posts: 664	Re: Is an Eaton worth it? And how much weight does it add? i prefer my eaton > spray. even better i prefer my eaton WITH spray. __________________ ___________________________ 70mm single turbo.

03-18-2013, 05:41 PM	#24
bleedingfordblu Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Leesburg, VA Posts: 1,985	Re: Is an Eaton worth it? And how much weight does it add? with a safe tune and an eaton swap your bottom end will be fine so will your trans. i have a buddy with a termi swapped engine with a stock 3650 and launches with slicks at the track with 490 ftlbs of tq. only broke one input shaft so at 400 ftlbs youll be fine imo. hell ive got stock bottom end and trans and im doing an eaton swap __________________ 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 Stock bottom end/compression Eaton M112 Stock upper Stock lower K&N intake Built T56 Bassani mid length headers Bassani catted x pipe Bassani slash cut tip catback Stock 03 Cobra IRS 18x9/10 Forgestar F14 Tuned by Chris Macduff at IMA motorsports 429hp 407 tq @ 7.5 lbs of boost

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