which new mods to get?? - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

whammy91 · 02-04-2013, 01:28 AM

okay i did my taxes so that means some new mods for the mach because i havn't done anything to it and feel like doing something. okay iam def getting a SCT tuner from AM the bama tuning. but i cant decide to go with a magnaflow catted x-pipe or get an aluminum driveshaft with hotchkis lower control arms.

i have an 03 AB mach1 automatic. only mods that i have done to the car is magnapacks, newgen JLT RAI intake, accufab TB, Lowerd on SR performance springs, 275/40 nittos NT555 out rear to grip better than the stock 245.

so its either
#1 SCT tuner and Magnaflow catted x-pipe. cost for those both are $1,089
#2 SCT tuner and aluminum Driveshaft with Lower control arms just under $1,000

iam leaning more on #2. just want to get some opinions from people on here.
and yes i know gears are a must but iam holding off on that right now. i plan on doing 4.10s later on just not right now.

machdude · 02-04-2013, 02:39 AM

I think you could have fun with both. #1 would give you a new sound and a small benefit in hp. I love the way my car sounds and its probably my favorite part of it.

#2 would give you less rotational mass which would help with engine braking and maybe a little with acceleration as far as the lower control arms I've heard mixed thing about control arms on this site but have not paid much attention so I won't give an opinion on that.

311-420 · 02-04-2013, 07:31 AM

Catted x and driveshaft. Scrap the flasher idea until you're ready for a dyno tune.

My aluminum driveshaft was comparable to going from a stock catted h to an offroad x in a seat of the pants gain. Very much worth it.

Mach828 · 02-04-2013, 01:43 PM

just hold off for some used parts. If you are patient for some good deals, you could get all of the options you listed for your price range.

Bouttime09 · 02-04-2013, 02:01 PM

Catted X, Alum. D/S, no tuner. I know you said that you are holding off on gears, but they are deffinately the biggest bang for your buck.

03sh8ker · 02-04-2013, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whammy91

okay i did my taxes so that means some new mods for the mach because i havn't done anything to it and feel like doing something. okay iam def getting a SCT tuner from AM the bama tuning. but i cant decide to go with a magnaflow catted x-pipe or get an aluminum driveshaft with hotchkis lower control arms.

i have an 03 AB mach1 automatic. only mods that i have done to the car is magnapacks, newgen JLT RAI intake, accufab TB, Lowerd on SR performance springs, 275/40 nittos NT555 out rear to grip better than the stock 245.

so its either
#1 SCT tuner and Magnaflow catted x-pipe. cost for those both are $1,089
#2 SCT tuner and aluminum Driveshaft with Lower control arms just under $1,000

iam leaning more on #2. just want to get some opinions from people on here.
and yes i know gears are a must but iam holding off on that right now. i plan on doing 4.10s later on just not right now.

If I was you I would rethink the sct bama tume. I just bought the same setup for my 03 mach and wasn't happy with it at all. I uploaded the street tune on 91 octane and my car had extreme detonation. I contacted bama, they sent me a new tune that had the same problem. I decided to ditch the bama tune and wait until I can afford a true custom dyno tune. IMO each car is different and mail tunes are just a guessing game. Hope this helps!

jayslx1 · 02-04-2013, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whammy91

okay i did my taxes so that means some new mods for the mach because i havn't done anything to it and feel like doing something. okay iam def getting a SCT tuner from AM the bama tuning. but i cant decide to go with a magnaflow catted x-pipe or get an aluminum driveshaft with hotchkis lower control arms.

i have an 03 AB mach1 automatic. only mods that i have done to the car is magnapacks, newgen JLT RAI intake, accufab TB, Lowerd on SR performance springs, 275/40 nittos NT555 out rear to grip better than the stock 245.

so its either
#1 SCT tuner and Magnaflow catted x-pipe. cost for those both are $1,089
#2 SCT tuner and aluminum Driveshaft with Lower control arms just under $1,000

iam leaning more on #2. just want to get some opinions from people on here.
and yes i know gears are a must but iam holding off on that right now. i plan on doing 4.10s later on just not right now.

Definitely get the d/s.......but also a real set of subframe connectors needs to be on your list

SHAKN' 04 · 02-04-2013, 03:46 PM

Funny, after all this time and mods, I'm still using my stock driveshaft lol

iudelt89 · 02-04-2013, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 03sh8ker

If I was you I would rethink the sct bama tume. I just bought the same setup for my 03 mach and wasn't happy with it at all. I uploaded the street tune on 91 octane and my car had extreme detonation. I contacted bama, they sent me a new tune that had the same problem. I decided to ditch the bama tune and wait until I can afford a true custom dyno tune. IMO each car is different and mail tunes are just a guessing game. Hope this helps!

That 91 oct prob didnt help. Hoping I don't run into the same thing when I load mine up after I pull the car out of storage.

03sh8ker · 02-04-2013, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by iudelt89

That 91 oct prob didnt help. Hoping I don't run into the same thing when I load mine up after I pull the car out of storage.

The tune was setup for 91 octane. Not to mention, you can run higher octane in a tune designed for lower octane, just not the other way around. I think the bama tunes are very aggressive. I have heard many people complain about there tunes on a 4v.

New Mach · 02-04-2013, 07:11 PM

I didn't know an aluminum drive shaft was that big of a deal, guess I have something new to get. I loves me some more power.

PS. Just looked on ebay, can't find anything for the Mach 1. Are we 31 spline or something different?

Thanks!

Triple

jayslx1 · 02-04-2013, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New Mach

I didn't know an aluminum drive shaft was that big of a deal, guess I have something new to get. I loves me some more power.

PS. Just looked on ebay, can't find anything for the Mach 1. Are we 31 spline or something different?

Thanks!

Triple

Less rotational mass,less shock to drivetrain, revs a tad quicker, 28 spline, have to re-use stock yoke

New Mach · 02-04-2013, 07:45 PM

Now I'm confused, after some checking it states Mach 1's are 31 spline, but it also says it's different on automatics which I have, so maybe my auto is a 28 spline, which would make sense.

Can someone confirm if the autos are 28 and the manuals are 31 spline?

Thanks!

Triple

03sh8ker · 02-04-2013, 07:50 PM

I'm pretty sure both auto and manual have 28 spline axles

jayslx1 · 02-04-2013, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New Mach

Now I'm confused, after some checking it states Mach 1's are 31 spline, but it also says it's different on automatics which I have, so maybe my auto is a 28 spline, which would make sense.

Can someone confirm if the autos are 28 and the manuals are 31 spline?

Thanks!

Triple

I thought only Cobras came with 31 spline.

Mustang9668 · 02-04-2013, 08:16 PM

I highly recommend a custom tune. I bought a used SCT tuner for 200 and had Eric brooks at brooks speed make a custom mail order tune and it dropped .3 at the track(i have an auto car also)

Gears will get you about .2-.3 at the track as well. Another really good one is a torque converter.

For an auto car you can't beat a converter, tune, and gears.

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Mustang9668 · 02-04-2013, 08:17 PM

All mach 1s have 28 spline axles.
03-04 cobras have 31 spline.

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New Mach · 02-04-2013, 08:26 PM

Why would Ford put the weaker 28 spline parts in a Mach 1 and 31 spline parts in regular Mustang during that time (99-04 GT 31 spline)? That makes no sense.

Sorry for the jack

Triple

Mustang9668 · 02-04-2013, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New Mach

Why would Ford put the weaker 28 spline parts in a Mach 1 and 31 spline parts in regular Mustang during that time? That makes no sense.

Sorry for the jack

Triple

If buy regular you mean the gt, the gt had 28 spline also. It wasn't until the 05+ body style that the gt's came with 31 spline axles.

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jayslx1 · 02-04-2013, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New Mach

Why would Ford put the weaker 28 spline parts in a Mach 1 and 31 spline parts in regular Mustang during that time (99-04 GT 31 spline)? That makes no sense.

Sorry for the jack

Triple

My guess is the bean counters at Ford.

na svt · 02-04-2013, 08:54 PM

a driveshaft will do little to increase performance.

New Mach · 02-04-2013, 09:10 PM

American Muscle and everyone else has it wrong then: 99-04 GT 31 Spline driveshafts

Triple

na svt · 02-04-2013, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New Mach

American Muscle and everyone else has it wrong then: 99-04 GT 31 Spline driveshafts

Triple

Some people are talking about 28 and 31 spine axles while others are referring to driveshafts. The auto yoke is different than that manual yoke, the driveshaft however is the same.

whammy91 · 02-05-2013, 10:00 PM

So I should get the aluminum driveshaft forsure. And yes I know for the autos the yoke on the stock driveshaft has to be swaped to the aluminum driveshaft. And get the catted x pipe.? So those 2 things x_pipe and aluminum driveshaft.

jayslx1 · 02-05-2013, 11:27 PM

These cars respond well to exhaust mods.........but its like everything else in these forums, you will hear different opinions/attitudes from different people.

02-04-2013, 07:31 AM	#3
311-420 Can't be bridled Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 7,006	Re: which new mods to get?? Catted x and driveshaft. Scrap the flasher idea until you're ready for a dyno tune. My aluminum driveshaft was comparable to going from a stock catted h to an offroad x in a seat of the pants gain. Very much worth it. __________________ 2004 Mach 1 #6956 5spd w/IUP Eaton swap, longtubes, built 3.73 SRA 452hp/409tq dynojet🏁

02-04-2013, 01:43 PM	#4
Mach828 Dark Knight Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 5,759	Re: which new mods to get?? just hold off for some used parts. If you are patient for some good deals, you could get all of the options you listed for your price range. __________________ Vortech V2 S-trim, E85, A2A Treadstone, Comp cams, built engine, full exhaust, built rear, built 4r70, more mods. Tuned by me with SCT Advantage

02-04-2013, 02:01 PM	#5
Bouttime09 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Hampton, VA Posts: 206	Re: which new mods to get?? Catted X, Alum. D/S, no tuner. I know you said that you are holding off on gears, but they are deffinately the biggest bang for your buck. __________________ 2004, TR Mach 1. C&L cold air intake, MAC longtube headers, MAC o/r prochamber and Magnaflow catback (sex). 3.90 gear set driven by an MGW sts (orange handle). Sitting on SVE lowering springs, stock shocks and struts and a set of 17x9/10 chrome SC replicas from LMR.

02-04-2013, 03:46 PM	#8
SHAKN' 04 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kyle, Texas Posts: 2,285	Re: which new mods to get?? Funny, after all this time and mods, I'm still using my stock driveshaft lol __________________ SOLD04' Mach 1 -Comp Cams 106100's (deg 106/110) -Eatonswap with 3.4 Pulley -Full Exhaust (mac lts & xpipe, sss terminator c/b) -Built Rear w/ 3.55 gears [B]-Tuned by Lethal Performance of San Antonio -510hp/478tq

02-04-2013, 07:11 PM	#11
New Mach Team Comp Orange Pres. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Silicon Valley Posts: 927	Re: which new mods to get?? I didn't know an aluminum drive shaft was that big of a deal, guess I have something new to get. I loves me some more power. PS. Just looked on ebay, can't find anything for the Mach 1. Are we 31 spline or something different? Thanks! Triple __________________ 2004 Comp. Orange Mach 1/AUTO Performance: K&N Filter Magnaflow X-Pipe Magnaflow Cat-Back Predator Diablo Tune Suspension: Griggs Rear Springs/300 lbs. Koni Yellow Adjustable MM CC Plates MM Front Coilovers MM Adjustable Rear LCA MM Full length SFC MM 4-pt K-Member Brace MM Steel Braided Brake Lines Appearance: 35W DDM HID Lights S281 Rear Deck Spoiler MRT 3" Rolled Exhaust Tips Ford 8.8 Axle Cover Saleen Matt Black 18x9 Nitto Extreme 555 275/35/18 *SOLD 2017* Last edited by New Mach; 02-04-2013 at 09:08 PM.

02-04-2013, 01:28 AM	#1
whammy91 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 171	which new mods to get?? okay i did my taxes so that means some new mods for the mach because i havn't done anything to it and feel like doing something. okay iam def getting a SCT tuner from AM the bama tuning. but i cant decide to go with a magnaflow catted x-pipe or get an aluminum driveshaft with hotchkis lower control arms. i have an 03 AB mach1 automatic. only mods that i have done to the car is magnapacks, newgen JLT RAI intake, accufab TB, Lowerd on SR performance springs, 275/40 nittos NT555 out rear to grip better than the stock 245. so its either #1 SCT tuner and Magnaflow catted x-pipe. cost for those both are $1,089 #2 SCT tuner and aluminum Driveshaft with Lower control arms just under $1,000 iam leaning more on #2. just want to get some opinions from people on here. and yes i know gears are a must but iam holding off on that right now. i plan on doing 4.10s later on just not right now.

02-04-2013, 02:39 AM	#2
machdude Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: so cal Posts: 389	Re: which new mods to get?? I think you could have fun with both. #1 would give you a new sound and a small benefit in hp. I love the way my car sounds and its probably my favorite part of it. #2 would give you less rotational mass which would help with engine braking and maybe a little with acceleration as far as the lower control arms I've heard mixed thing about control arms on this site but have not paid much attention so I won't give an opinion on that. __________________ 1st Mach 2nd mustang Mods: K&N drop filter, Full Mac exhaust with Lt headers, 4:10 gears, eibach sport line springs, tubular cross member, steeda short throw

02-04-2013, 07:45 PM	#13
New Mach Team Comp Orange Pres. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Silicon Valley Posts: 927	Re: which new mods to get?? Now I'm confused, after some checking it states Mach 1's are 31 spline, but it also says it's different on automatics which I have, so maybe my auto is a 28 spline, which would make sense. Can someone confirm if the autos are 28 and the manuals are 31 spline? Thanks! Triple __________________ 2004 Comp. Orange Mach 1/AUTO Performance: K&N Filter Magnaflow X-Pipe Magnaflow Cat-Back Predator Diablo Tune Suspension: Griggs Rear Springs/300 lbs. Koni Yellow Adjustable MM CC Plates MM Front Coilovers MM Adjustable Rear LCA MM Full length SFC MM 4-pt K-Member Brace MM Steel Braided Brake Lines Appearance: 35W DDM HID Lights S281 Rear Deck Spoiler MRT 3" Rolled Exhaust Tips Ford 8.8 Axle Cover Saleen Matt Black 18x9 Nitto Extreme 555 275/35/18 *SOLD 2017*

02-04-2013, 07:50 PM	#14
03sh8ker Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Crockett, Ca Posts: 289	Re: which new mods to get?? I'm pretty sure both auto and manual have 28 spline axles

02-04-2013, 08:16 PM	#16
Mustang9668 saving pennies Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Griffin, Ga Posts: 1,487	I highly recommend a custom tune. I bought a used SCT tuner for 200 and had Eric brooks at brooks speed make a custom mail order tune and it dropped .3 at the track(i have an auto car also) Gears will get you about .2-.3 at the track as well. Another really good one is a torque converter. For an auto car you can't beat a converter, tune, and gears. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2 __________________ 03 Mach 1--Auto, 4000 stall, 96 cobra intake cams, 4.10s, ARH L/T's, off road X, Moser 31 spline axles, Eaton Posi diff., MM FLSFC, Tokico D-Specs, k&n filter, 17x9/10.5s AFS Mac wheels 03 Cobra--18x9/10.5 TSW Nurburgring Wheels, Nitto NT05's 275/295, Stiegemeier ported, 2.87” pulley, Canton 9-qt oil pan, Spec Stage II clutch, MM coilovers, Bilstein Shocks/Struts, LFP heat exchanger, LFP radiator, Evans cooling system, 14" Brembo 4 Piston calipers, 470whp, 460ft-lbs

02-04-2013, 08:17 PM	#17
Mustang9668 saving pennies Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Griffin, Ga Posts: 1,487	All mach 1s have 28 spline axles. 03-04 cobras have 31 spline. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2 __________________ 03 Mach 1--Auto, 4000 stall, 96 cobra intake cams, 4.10s, ARH L/T's, off road X, Moser 31 spline axles, Eaton Posi diff., MM FLSFC, Tokico D-Specs, k&n filter, 17x9/10.5s AFS Mac wheels 03 Cobra--18x9/10.5 TSW Nurburgring Wheels, Nitto NT05's 275/295, Stiegemeier ported, 2.87” pulley, Canton 9-qt oil pan, Spec Stage II clutch, MM coilovers, Bilstein Shocks/Struts, LFP heat exchanger, LFP radiator, Evans cooling system, 14" Brembo 4 Piston calipers, 470whp, 460ft-lbs

02-04-2013, 08:26 PM	#18
New Mach Team Comp Orange Pres. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Silicon Valley Posts: 927	Re: which new mods to get?? Why would Ford put the weaker 28 spline parts in a Mach 1 and 31 spline parts in regular Mustang during that time (99-04 GT 31 spline)? That makes no sense. Sorry for the jack Triple __________________ 2004 Comp. Orange Mach 1/AUTO Performance: K&N Filter Magnaflow X-Pipe Magnaflow Cat-Back Predator Diablo Tune Suspension: Griggs Rear Springs/300 lbs. Koni Yellow Adjustable MM CC Plates MM Front Coilovers MM Adjustable Rear LCA MM Full length SFC MM 4-pt K-Member Brace MM Steel Braided Brake Lines Appearance: 35W DDM HID Lights S281 Rear Deck Spoiler MRT 3" Rolled Exhaust Tips Ford 8.8 Axle Cover Saleen Matt Black 18x9 Nitto Extreme 555 275/35/18 *SOLD 2017*

02-04-2013, 08:54 PM	#21
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02-04-2013, 09:10 PM	#22
New Mach Team Comp Orange Pres. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Silicon Valley Posts: 927	Re: which new mods to get?? American Muscle and everyone else has it wrong then: 99-04 GT 31 Spline driveshafts Triple __________________ 2004 Comp. Orange Mach 1/AUTO Performance: K&N Filter Magnaflow X-Pipe Magnaflow Cat-Back Predator Diablo Tune Suspension: Griggs Rear Springs/300 lbs. Koni Yellow Adjustable MM CC Plates MM Front Coilovers MM Adjustable Rear LCA MM Full length SFC MM 4-pt K-Member Brace MM Steel Braided Brake Lines Appearance: 35W DDM HID Lights S281 Rear Deck Spoiler MRT 3" Rolled Exhaust Tips Ford 8.8 Axle Cover Saleen Matt Black 18x9 Nitto Extreme 555 275/35/18 *SOLD 2017*

02-05-2013, 10:00 PM	#24
whammy91 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 171	Re: which new mods to get?? So I should get the aluminum driveshaft forsure. And yes I know for the autos the yoke on the stock driveshaft has to be swaped to the aluminum driveshaft. And get the catted x pipe.? So those 2 things x_pipe and aluminum driveshaft.

02-05-2013, 11:27 PM	#25
jayslx1 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Huntsville,AL Posts: 182	Re: which new mods to get?? These cars respond well to exhaust mods.........but its like everything else in these forums, you will hear different opinions/attitudes from different people. __________________ 04 Torch Red-Auto Built 04/05/04 #6452 Drop in Amsoil, Redline synthetics SCT Bama tune Magnaflow X-pipe (w/spun converters)/SRS Catback w/Borla ProXS mufflers Vogtland springs/Koni Sport struts & shocks/MM HD Control Arms Steeda full length subframe connectors/Steeda 2 pt strut brace/Steeda CC Plates Stifflers 4 pt. k-member brace/Eibach sway bars FRPP aluminum driveshaft-removed dogbone/Urethane trans mount Brembo Sport Rotors/Hawk Ceramic/Goodridge Lines

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