Isolator question - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

ryanscobra · 07-17-2012, 07:16 PM

I hear about people removing the iso's to make the car lower. I was thinking about doing this but do you put anything between the spring and the control arm? Just seems to me that the metal rubbing would squeak. Someone told me to put a bicycle tire tube in between in but that just seems like it would be too weak. What does everyone else use when they remove the iso's? Also, do you remove both or just the top or bottom?

ASH302 · 07-17-2012, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ryanscobra

I hear about people removing the iso's to make the car lower. I was thinking about doing this but do you put anything between the spring and the control arm? Just seems to me that the metal rubbing would squeak. Someone told me to put a bicycle tire tube in between in but that just seems like it would be too weak. What does everyone else use when they remove the iso's? Also, do you remove both or just the top or bottom?

i just remove some isolators on another mach, just the front, drop it alittle (also just removed 1 on each spring) said it made it alot more ruff ride, also from what i member on my 2001 it had the sqeak sound too it.

what springs do you have? to me if your going to stick something in there just leave the isolator in there,

ASh

japan4racing · 07-18-2012, 12:19 AM

I have no iso's on the front and just the bottom iso's in the rear...i wrapped the last coil with electrical tape. I have no squeeks, and the ride is the same as before I removed them.

Sublimemach · 07-18-2012, 12:44 AM

i have no isos and i have no squeak at all. no noise what so ever. do it! it does drop it more

mongold88 · 07-18-2012, 02:31 AM

No ISO's in mine either. I'm running H&R race springs and no noise from the springs. I like the way mine looks but next is coilovers. Here is a pic.

sent from The Rezound

ryanscobra · 07-18-2012, 07:36 AM

Right now I have 1 coil cut on all 4 stock springs. I have lower control arms in the back so the rear sits exactly 1" higher than the front. I like the stance of it right now, I just want it a little lower.

Tommy Z · 07-18-2012, 12:11 PM

Mongold - Your Mach 1 is sick!

Something about Tapatalk

Mach828 · 07-18-2012, 12:13 PM

I've heard of people coating the spring contact areas with a little spray silicone.

ryanscobra · 07-18-2012, 02:08 PM

Will taking the iso's out affect anything with the cut springs? I was told running cut stock springs is bad only because the top of the spring is not rounded anymore and is not like a point. I was told that if you hit a bump, your spring could actually shoot out of position because it's not flat anymore. Is this something I should worry about?

SHAKN' 04 · 07-18-2012, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mach828

I've heard of people coating the spring contact areas with a little spray silicone.

+1 this is what im fixing to do soon. Removing all upper iso's and coating the springs with the spray silicone. I believe its only like $8-10 a can from autozone.

Sublimemach · 07-18-2012, 03:34 PM

spraying silicone or wrapping tape on them is not needed at all. i didnt do any of that to mine and my car doesnt make one sound or anything.

ryanscobra · 07-18-2012, 03:57 PM

I was just told that since I have cut stock springs, that it might not be a good idea. Just need to know if I will be alright, like I said before, I have heard horror stories.

Mach828 · 07-18-2012, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SublimeMach

spraying silicone or wrapping tape on them is not needed at all. i didnt do any of that to mine and my car doesnt make one sound or anything.

+1. I have no ISOs anywhere and don't have any issues

SHAKN' 04 · 07-18-2012, 04:33 PM

spraying or taping isnt needed, but is an option just for security for any squeaking that may occur. Some will squeak, some wont.

mongold88 · 07-18-2012, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy Z

Mongold - Your Mach 1 is sick!

Something about Tapatalk

Thanks!!! I'm about to put some prostars on the car this weekend

WalkrTexasRngr · 07-18-2012, 07:03 PM

Dumb question but why not just cut more off the springs and let the isolators in there?

JimsZ · 07-18-2012, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WalkrTexasRngr

Dumb question but why not just cut more off the springs and let the isolators in there?

Spring doesn't do its job once you cut off more than can bounce. Get too much gone and its like putting a metal block in there...

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ryanscobra · 07-18-2012, 09:53 PM

So no one has had any experience with cut stock springs and taking out the iso's?

ASH302 · 07-18-2012, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ryanscobra

Will taking the iso's out affect anything with the cut springs? I was told running cut stock springs is bad only because the top of the spring is not rounded anymore and is not like a point. I was told that if you hit a bump, your spring could actually shoot out of position because it's not flat anymore. Is this something I should worry about?

that just sounds crazy something lke that happing, chite who knows prob could or has happen, i think i just leave em in . or take one isolator from each springs,
its the game where you can 't have it perfect. so to lowerit alittle more, give up alittle comfort. just sucs, for me i feel bless now after i made my trade

ASh

07-17-2012, 07:16 PM	#1
ryanscobra Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: NY Posts: 394	Isolator question I hear about people removing the iso's to make the car lower. I was thinking about doing this but do you put anything between the spring and the control arm? Just seems to me that the metal rubbing would squeak. Someone told me to put a bicycle tire tube in between in but that just seems like it would be too weak. What does everyone else use when they remove the iso's? Also, do you remove both or just the top or bottom? __________________ 03 Mach 1 391 rwhp/353 rwtq N/A 106100s Bolt ons NA SVT intake 4.10s

07-18-2012, 12:19 AM	#3
japan4racing not builted Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: perry ga Posts: 1,183	Re: Isolator question I have no iso's on the front and just the bottom iso's in the rear...i wrapped the last coil with electrical tape. I have no squeeks, and the ride is the same as before I removed them. __________________ 2004 Torch Red Mach 1 - C&L cai, Kooks longtubes, Kooks o/r x-pipe, Magnaflow Magnapacks, Roy's 1/2" spacer, FRPP aluminum d/s, FRPP 4.10's, FRPP billet F/W, Ram HDX, MGW orange handle, H&R Super Sports

07-18-2012, 12:44 AM	#4
Sublimemach 2013 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 2,245	Re: Isolator question i have no isos and i have no squeak at all. no noise what so ever. do it! it does drop it more __________________ https://youtu.be/FGEHkAtgNb8 Cars owned: 2016 guard green 5.0 bagged on copper rovos DAILY 2004 manual CO Mach 1 SOLD 2013 Perf. white A6 5.0, recaro's, full exhaust 2004 CO auto Mach 1.bagged. full bolt on, full exhaust, Slammed & Cammed! 341/310 WEEKEND CAR 2001 Mineral Grey GT. few bolt ons. WRECKED 1998 Laser Red V6. wheels and exhaust. SOLD

07-18-2012, 02:31 AM	#5
mongold88 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: clear brook, virginia Posts: 229	No ISO's in mine either. I'm running H&R race springs and no noise from the springs. I like the way mine looks but next is coilovers. Here is a pic. sent from The Rezound __________________ 2004 mach 1 stock motor with P1-SC (8lbs) 4:10 gears, 31 Spline axles, Spec stage 3+ clutch and aluminium fly wheel, Adjustable cable and quad, Adjustable upper and lower control arms (rear)

07-18-2012, 07:36 AM	#6
ryanscobra Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: NY Posts: 394	Re: Isolator question Right now I have 1 coil cut on all 4 stock springs. I have lower control arms in the back so the rear sits exactly 1" higher than the front. I like the stance of it right now, I just want it a little lower. __________________ 03 Mach 1 391 rwhp/353 rwtq N/A 106100s Bolt ons NA SVT intake 4.10s

07-18-2012, 12:11 PM	#7
Tommy Z Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Midland, Texas Posts: 787	Mongold - Your Mach 1 is sick! Something about Tapatalk __________________ No accident that my birthday is March 1st. Take out the 'r' and you end up with.... 2003 Torch Red Mach 1 ★ Rebuilt 3650 & MGW ★ Spec 2 & Fidanza flywheel ★ H&R Super Sports & Maximum Motorsports struts/shocks ★ Maximum Motorsports rear lowers, MM panhard, MM caster camber plates ★ Mosers + ARPs ★ Brembo slotted rotors, braided lines ★ Catless X and SLP LM2s ★ 18X9/10.5 - Toyo R888R

07-18-2012, 12:13 PM	#8
Mach828 Dark Knight Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 5,759	Re: Isolator question I've heard of people coating the spring contact areas with a little spray silicone. __________________ Vortech V2 S-trim, E85, A2A Treadstone, Comp cams, built engine, full exhaust, built rear, built 4r70, more mods. Tuned by me with SCT Advantage

07-18-2012, 02:08 PM	#9
ryanscobra Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: NY Posts: 394	Re: Isolator question Will taking the iso's out affect anything with the cut springs? I was told running cut stock springs is bad only because the top of the spring is not rounded anymore and is not like a point. I was told that if you hit a bump, your spring could actually shoot out of position because it's not flat anymore. Is this something I should worry about? __________________ 03 Mach 1 391 rwhp/353 rwtq N/A 106100s Bolt ons NA SVT intake 4.10s

07-18-2012, 03:34 PM	#11
Sublimemach 2013 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 2,245	Re: Isolator question spraying silicone or wrapping tape on them is not needed at all. i didnt do any of that to mine and my car doesnt make one sound or anything. __________________ https://youtu.be/FGEHkAtgNb8 Cars owned: 2016 guard green 5.0 bagged on copper rovos DAILY 2004 manual CO Mach 1 SOLD 2013 Perf. white A6 5.0, recaro's, full exhaust 2004 CO auto Mach 1.bagged. full bolt on, full exhaust, Slammed & Cammed! 341/310 WEEKEND CAR 2001 Mineral Grey GT. few bolt ons. WRECKED 1998 Laser Red V6. wheels and exhaust. SOLD

07-18-2012, 03:57 PM	#12
ryanscobra Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: NY Posts: 394	Re: Isolator question I was just told that since I have cut stock springs, that it might not be a good idea. Just need to know if I will be alright, like I said before, I have heard horror stories. __________________ 03 Mach 1 391 rwhp/353 rwtq N/A 106100s Bolt ons NA SVT intake 4.10s

07-18-2012, 04:33 PM	#14
SHAKN' 04 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kyle, Texas Posts: 2,285	Re: Isolator question spraying or taping isnt needed, but is an option just for security for any squeaking that may occur. Some will squeak, some wont. __________________ SOLD04' Mach 1 -Comp Cams 106100's (deg 106/110) -Eatonswap with 3.4 Pulley -Full Exhaust (mac lts & xpipe, sss terminator c/b) -Built Rear w/ 3.55 gears [B]-Tuned by Lethal Performance of San Antonio -510hp/478tq

07-18-2012, 07:03 PM	#16
WalkrTexasRngr 2003 AB Mach 1 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: SW Pennsylvania Posts: 872	Re: Isolator question Dumb question but why not just cut more off the springs and let the isolators in there?

07-18-2012, 09:53 PM	#18
ryanscobra Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: NY Posts: 394	Re: Isolator question So no one has had any experience with cut stock springs and taking out the iso's? __________________ 03 Mach 1 391 rwhp/353 rwtq N/A 106100s Bolt ons NA SVT intake 4.10s

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