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02-11-2012, 09:57 PM | #1 |
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Help with power adder decision..
tryin to decide which route of boost i want to go. Currently im on a 100shot of spray. I was originally wanting the on3 forward facing turbo kit and just change out the V-bands and all the other "weak" parts of the kit. But then i thought about just doing an eaton swap, But seems like ALOT of stuff involved like changing crank pullies, etc, and just alot of stuff to do. So that had me thinking of a procharger set-up.
Im looking for cheap and easy which i know is hard to come by, also i didnt want to have to do the cobra pumps/tank, i was hoping a svt focus pump might get me by. My motor is built and i have a UPR K-member if it matters. Im only looking for atleast 450whp. thanks.
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02-11-2012, 10:21 PM | #2 |
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Re: Help with power adder decision..
just do a procharger or vortech w/ intercooler
sounds like that is what you are wanting since i said intercooler part my suggestion is a P1sc ASh
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02-12-2012, 01:43 AM | #3 |
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Re: Help with power adder decision..
Like Ash said an intercooled Vortech or Procharger would be the easier route and they both make great power.
Also your going to need a quality fuel pump setup. A Focus pump with a BAP will only go so far, and trust me once you add boost you'll eventually want more especially since your motor is built to handle it.
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02-12-2012, 01:52 AM | #4 |
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Re: Help with power adder decision..
Yea. i figured i would. as long as it could handle the low-mid 400's for awhile until i can choose a fuel set up for the long run.
The procharger set up looks pretty easy to install, doesnt seem like much to it.
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02-12-2012, 05:00 PM | #5 | |
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Re: Help with power adder decision..
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i would highly suggest doin a Thump RRR tensioner, just spend the money to do it, you won't regret on fuel system the focus pump will handle what your wanting to push and then yea when you want to up the boost you will for sure need a better fuel set up the cobra fuel tank isn't a bad thing if you find a good deal. it would be a good ideal to go ahead and knock it out and get it. i don't know what your budget is like, but its sometimes the wise thing to go ahead and knock the stuff out if your able too ASh
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02-12-2012, 05:04 PM | #6 |
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Re: Help with power adder decision..
on the install, its really not bad, just running the tubing
i would say the biggest pain is getting the head unit mounted on there, the bolt for the ATI idler pulley and shimming what needs shimmed so everything lines up right. but over all not that back. also not a whole lot of room there another suggestion is doing the home made power pipe, cost you about $100 bucks and looks alot better than the stock procharger inlet tubing there is a write up if you want to do it. may want to just take a look and see what it looks like, give you a better ideal weather or not you want to or not ASh
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02-13-2012, 02:32 AM | #7 |
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Re: Help with power adder decision..
been looking at the procharger kit. Looks pretty easy. just the mounting bracket, head unit, piping, and misc parts. My budget is that of a college student at the moment. so 450whp was gonna be my limit until my wallet could handle the 500+whp journey.
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02-13-2012, 03:03 AM | #8 |
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Re: Help with power adder decision..
FYI I've seen Cobra tanks going for $450-$650 on CL and Corral, I'm going tomorrow to look at a tank for $550 because I plan on putting on a supercharger as well...Good luck with everything
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02-13-2012, 08:04 AM | #9 |
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Re: Help with power adder decision..
going to look at a procharger this week, probably pick it up for my C/O mach ! Its a D1 kit for a GT so ill have to get the coolant tube and bracket for my mach..
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02-13-2012, 10:13 AM | #10 | |
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i got mine off a 99 cobra ASh
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02-13-2012, 01:45 PM | #11 |
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Re: Help with power adder decision..
So other than the coolant croosover tube and head unit bracket, everything for a GT should be the same?
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02-13-2012, 01:47 PM | #12 |
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02-14-2012, 04:33 AM | #13 |
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Re: Help with power adder decision..
thanks for the help guys. I guess the most expensive peice is the headunit. and intercooler. what do these kits usually range from price wise?
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Re: Help with power adder decision..
Sounds like the samething I was doing before I blew my motor. My set up was a p1sc kit that I got used for 2600.00. I had a svt focus pump and full exhaust. My fuel was maxing out at 6100 rpm and I was running 10 psi. Never had it on the Dyno just email tuned and I'd put my power between 475-500 rwhp judging by the cars I beat. As far as a fuel system with my new set up I'm going w the lethal performance budget return style fuel system. Fits the stock tank w 2 walbro 255 pumps and cones with everyting ready to handle 700 rwhp and I believe you can run e85 w it all for 899.00
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02-14-2012, 05:33 AM | #15 |
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Re: Help with power adder decision..
hmm, i was just looking at this vortech kit (basic kit with no aftercooler) and was wondering how you route the piping for an air-to-air intercooler set-up?
Im thinking of going: vortech V-2 kit Air-to-air intercooler focus pump (w/BAP if needed) 42lbs injectors and lightning maf???
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02-14-2012, 07:16 AM | #16 |
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Re: Help with power adder decision..
If I were to do this all over again, I'd skip the D1 and go with a twin turbo system.
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02-14-2012, 05:04 PM | #18 |
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Re: Help with power adder decision..
yea i;ve been on google. just took awhile to find how to route the piping on the driver side.
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02-14-2012, 05:17 PM | #19 |
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You gotta drill a 3 1/8" hole in the lower part of the inner fender.
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02-14-2012, 08:30 PM | #21 |
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Re: Help with power adder decision..
Easy way to find out is just calling procharger,
give em a call tell em that you are getting a kit that is on a GT and you are hooking it up on a Mach, they will be great with helping you on what parts you are going to need to make it work, that is one thing i will say they were really good with helping me. i was missing some small parts out of the kit i needed and they help me figure it out and also not to waste money also you could get a install manual and lay out the parts and mark which ones you are missing ASh
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02-14-2012, 09:49 PM | #22 |
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Re: Help with power adder decision..
I've drivin turbo, centri, and blower cars and IMO turbo is the way to go. May cost more up front but when you decide to up your game and make more power and do upgrades, a turbo system will end up being just as cheap or cheaper. Just look up component prices and build your own kit, it might surprise you how cheap it can be done.
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02-15-2012, 07:52 AM | #23 | |
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02-15-2012, 09:32 AM | #24 | |
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with what he is wanting i wouldn't even suggest doing a D1sc, just a P1sc, unless he found a killer deal on a D1sc ASh
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02-15-2012, 11:35 AM | #25 |
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Re: Help with power adder decision..
im in the same boat as the OP and am trying to decide between procharger and a turbo setup. The procharger seems much more affordable and simpler to start with but the turbo cars seem more complicated and have better numbers and cost less to upgrade in the long run
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