Quicker Steering - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

Hurrican5547 · 06-14-2011, 06:43 PM

Love the Mach 1 but coming from my M3 the car feels heavy, and the steering is slow.

Anyway to speed it up? The quickest ratio power rack I can find is 15:1.. But I think that's what we have stock no? It's getting to the point where I want to go back to my BMW

SpeedofSoundN2O · 06-14-2011, 06:57 PM

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Hurrican5547 · 06-14-2011, 07:02 PM

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Hate to say it, but if you are comparing a bimmer to a Mach, you will ALWAYS be unhappy and nothing is gonna solve that. As I am sure you are aware, they are two totally different cars, engineered for two totally different purposes.
Comparing the two is absurd. If "like a bimmer" is what you are looking for, then you mind as well ditch the Mach and just go back to the bimmer then.

The Mach is about pure, raw, American muscle....there is no luxury and refinement in American muscle, just pure a$$ kicking power!!

on a side note, I suggest replacing your steering shaft with a Borgeson steering shaft...tightens the steering up more than I could ever describe and make the car a pleasure to drive aggressively in corners.

I everything about the car, except what seems like the delay in steering... I'll have to check out the shaft, thanks!!

Hurrican5547 · 06-14-2011, 07:03 PM

On a side note, with Maximum or Griggs, the mustang will smoke my Beemer in the slalom

SpeedofSoundN2O · 06-14-2011, 07:12 PM

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SpeedofSoundN2O · 06-14-2011, 07:13 PM

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Hurrican5547 · 06-14-2011, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedofSoundN2O

True that, but most don't have that kind of money for that level suspension

Lol going from almost a grand for struts/shocks, and more than 1500 for bushings makes an all inclusive kit for 5 grand something to look towards

Hurrican5547 · 06-14-2011, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedofSoundN2O

Your welcome...I believe your complaint in the steering does not stem from the rack ratio itself, but like i said above, more from the steering shaft and the cheap rubber bushing in it. I changed my steering shaft with a Borgeson and wished I would have done it as soon as I bought the car new. PS., get the Borgeson shaft with the power steering isolator. They go for about $350.00. you can find them at places like Summit Racing and a few others. Again, the steering quality will be night and day with a new shaft. also, don't get the cheaper Flaming river steering shaft because they are cut to fit mostly and pain to install.

From what I've read the MM rack is the same but cheaper... True?

SpeedofSoundN2O · 06-14-2011, 07:54 PM

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NJ 03Mach1 · 06-14-2011, 08:16 PM

Artsperformanceparts.com

All the MM stuff you can get, CHEAPER then you can get it directly from MM..

MM Steering kit, will solve your problem. Makes it supers tight..

na svt · 06-16-2011, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SpeedofSoundN2O

I believe Borgeson makes the MM shafts, but I am not sure, so don't quote me on that...LOL...the M1R police will chime in and jump me...LOLOL

j rick kirby · 06-16-2011, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedofSoundN2O

Your welcome...I believe your complaint in the steering does not stem from the rack ratio itself, but like i said above, more from the steering shaft and the cheap rubber bushing in it. I changed my steering shaft with a Borgeson and wished I would have done it as soon as I bought the car new. PS., get the Borgeson shaft with the power steering isolator. They go for about $350.00. you can find them at places like Summit Racing and a few others. Again, the steering quality will be night and day with a new shaft. also, don't get the cheaper Flaming river steering shaft because they are cut to fit mostly and pain to install.

Was there an increase in NVH?

SpeedofSoundN2O · 06-16-2011, 04:02 PM

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hecdel40 · 06-17-2011, 02:21 AM

Tires are also a big factor that is why i went with 18in rims and a lower tire profile and that made a big difference.

j rick kirby · 06-17-2011, 10:42 AM

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Absolutely no increase in noise, vibration or harshness...it should, IMO, go down as one of the best "have to" mods to do. It offered only the best benefits.

Wow,I'm sold!

06-14-2011, 06:43 PM	#1
Hurrican5547 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Woodbury, CT Posts: 24	Quicker Steering Love the Mach 1 but coming from my M3 the car feels heavy, and the steering is slow. Anyway to speed it up? The quickest ratio power rack I can find is 15:1.. But I think that's what we have stock no? It's getting to the point where I want to go back to my BMW

06-14-2011, 06:57 PM	#2
SpeedofSoundN2O Snake Bitten Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: hell Posts: 452	Re: Quicker Steering *** __________________ Rob 2008 Vista Blue Shelby GT500....lots of mods 2003 TR-Mach 1, 6 speed...too many mods to be slow, too much money spent to be fast! -SOLD but will forever be remembered! "People say you can abuse marijuana. You can abuse cheeseburgers. Does that mean we should close Burger Kings." – Joe Rogan Last edited by SpeedofSoundN2O; 08-05-2011 at 01:40 AM.

06-14-2011, 07:03 PM	#4
Hurrican5547 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Woodbury, CT Posts: 24	Re: Quicker Steering On a side note, with Maximum or Griggs, the mustang will smoke my Beemer in the slalom

06-14-2011, 07:12 PM	#5
SpeedofSoundN2O Snake Bitten Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: hell Posts: 452	Re: Quicker Steering *** __________________ Rob 2008 Vista Blue Shelby GT500....lots of mods 2003 TR-Mach 1, 6 speed...too many mods to be slow, too much money spent to be fast! -SOLD but will forever be remembered! "People say you can abuse marijuana. You can abuse cheeseburgers. Does that mean we should close Burger Kings." – Joe Rogan Last edited by SpeedofSoundN2O; 08-05-2011 at 01:40 AM.

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SpeedofSoundN2O Snake Bitten Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: hell Posts: 452	Re: Quicker Steering *** __________________ Rob 2008 Vista Blue Shelby GT500....lots of mods 2003 TR-Mach 1, 6 speed...too many mods to be slow, too much money spent to be fast! -SOLD but will forever be remembered! "People say you can abuse marijuana. You can abuse cheeseburgers. Does that mean we should close Burger Kings." – Joe Rogan Last edited by SpeedofSoundN2O; 08-05-2011 at 01:41 AM.

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SpeedofSoundN2O Snake Bitten Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: hell Posts: 452	Re: Quicker Steering *** __________________ Rob 2008 Vista Blue Shelby GT500....lots of mods 2003 TR-Mach 1, 6 speed...too many mods to be slow, too much money spent to be fast! -SOLD but will forever be remembered! "People say you can abuse marijuana. You can abuse cheeseburgers. Does that mean we should close Burger Kings." – Joe Rogan Last edited by SpeedofSoundN2O; 08-05-2011 at 01:41 AM.

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NJ 03Mach1 IRS Conversion Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Union Beach, NJ Posts: 1,058	Re: Quicker Steering Artsperformanceparts.com All the MM stuff you can get, CHEAPER then you can get it directly from MM.. MM Steering kit, will solve your problem. Makes it supers tight.. __________________ Sold, but not forgotten... PHA #281 Mods: Anything ESP legal from Maximum Motorsports Hill Climb Videos Become a Hillclimber! MM&FF Feature Top of the Rock!

06-16-2011, 04:02 PM	#13
SpeedofSoundN2O Snake Bitten Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: hell Posts: 452	Re: Quicker Steering *** __________________ Rob 2008 Vista Blue Shelby GT500....lots of mods 2003 TR-Mach 1, 6 speed...too many mods to be slow, too much money spent to be fast! -SOLD but will forever be remembered! "People say you can abuse marijuana. You can abuse cheeseburgers. Does that mean we should close Burger Kings." – Joe Rogan Last edited by SpeedofSoundN2O; 08-05-2011 at 01:41 AM.

06-17-2011, 02:21 AM	#14
hecdel40 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Waveland MS Posts: 326	Re: Quicker Steering Tires are also a big factor that is why i went with 18in rims and a lower tire profile and that made a big difference.

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