I'll admit it, I'm an exhaust noob - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

nh70744 · 09-08-2009, 11:20 PM

My first car was a 2000 6 cyl. mustang, with a full exhaust already installed so I really have no clue what all I need to do to my new Mach. I'm confident I want Flowmaster 40 series mufflers, and some long tube headers, other than that I really don't know what else I need.

Over on Flowmaster's website, they have the mufflers, then they have the exhaust kits, can anybody take the time and explain to me what all the kit consists of, if I just get the mufflers, what other stuff I have to have, and if I would just be better off buying the exhaust kit.

I am assuming I need headers, x or h pipe, and the flowmaster catback kit.

Thanks in advance for any info.

Shane@TM · 09-08-2009, 11:30 PM

You have three major parts in an exhaust system.

1. Manifold/Headers - This is the part that is bolted directly to your engine

2. Mid-pipe - This carries the exhaust from the Manifold/headers to the last piece of your system. Usually this is piece is designed in three different fashions; X-pipe, H-pipe, and Prochamber, personal preference comes in here. Some say there is a difference, others not. This is also where you need to decide if you want to be street legal with it or not, hence catted(on road, legal) or off road pipe(not street legal).

3. Cat-Back - This is from your mid-pipe to your exhaust tips. Many brands, shapes, sizes, finishes, styles, and ways to do this. Flowmasters as you mentioned is a very popular streamline system. But there are other companies that make a better product that dont need to be welded in (IMO) such as SSS(PM John and Renae for Mach 1 Registry discount) Bassani, MAC, the list goes on. Some companies such as flowmaster and magnaflow will sell "weld ins" which use your existing pipe (or if you buy/make another set of pipes) and can be cheaper if you have the ability to do this or have pre-bent pipe available for your car. IMO your better off buying the kit whole. Do some research to be sure you get a kit that is known to fit well.

When you buy your parts, since Machs are not very popular this is what you look for. Several websites that I have seen to not list the Mach1 on any of their products.

Manifold/Header gaskets - 03/04 Cobra, Mach1
HEADERS - 03/04 Cobra / Mach1
MIDPIPE - 99-04 GT, Mach1, Billet
CATBACK - 99-04 GT, Mach1, Billet

Hope this helps and wasnt too much info!

Shane@TM · 09-08-2009, 11:36 PM

PS

The exhaust soundclips thread is a good way to figure out which way you want to go... found here:

http://www.mach1registry.org/forums/...ad.php?t=48861

Con's Mach1 · 09-09-2009, 11:22 AM

Well, SHANE took care of that. All you need is right there.

Shane@TM · 09-09-2009, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Con's Mach1

Well, SHANE took care of that. All you need is right there.

swoop1156 · 09-09-2009, 12:29 PM

Absolutely! Great job on that!

The only thing I can think of is with regard to headers, if you get shorty or long tube, you'll need a matching mid-pipe to fit. Same goes for if you keep the stock manifolds, you can't get a midpipe for long tubes and expect it to fit with the stock manifolds, etc.

Also, "billet" above in your post should read, "Buiiltt".

Keith.red.mach1 · 09-09-2009, 12:45 PM

If you like the sound of Flowmaster check out MAC.

They make long tube headers, matching H pipe, and their catback.

Long tubes make good power and don't bother with any shortie headers.

Also, keep in mind long tubes are a professional or /very experinced do it yourselfer job on the Mach.

Best bet would be to start off with a catback and then decide if you want to bite the bullet and buy long tubes and pay for install. If not just buy an off road h pipe and you should be fine. ( I started this route and bought a used h pipe for $75 and installed myself. I later bought long tubes)

Just my 2 cents....

nh70744 · 09-09-2009, 02:39 PM

Preciate it guys. Yeah I definitely will have to pay for somebody to install this stuff, I can't do any of it. I'm good at cleaning inside and out, and the basic maintenance stuff, but definitely have no clue about doing mechanical work.

nh70744 · 09-09-2009, 04:57 PM

Now where might be some good places to buy the exhaust parts at? I live in a pretty small town, highly doubt anybody around here could order the stuff for me any cheaper than I could order it and just get it sent to my house.

Shane@TM · 09-09-2009, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nh70744

Now where might be some good places to buy the exhaust parts at? I live in a pretty small town, highly doubt anybody around here could order the stuff for me any cheaper than I could order it and just get it sent to my house.

I would just order it online. Easiest thing.

nh70744 · 09-09-2009, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shane@TM

I would just order it online. Easiest thing.

Alright sounds good. Where are the best places to order stuff from online? I have ordered stuff for my sixer from american muscle, but I figure there are probably bigger and better places around as well.

muzman · 09-10-2009, 06:21 AM

well written Shane.

Scott McClure · 09-10-2009, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shane@TM

Manifold/Header gaskets - 03/04 Cobra, Mach1
HEADERS - 03/04 Cobra / Mach1
MIDPIPE - 99-04 GT, Mach1, Billet
CATBACK - 99-04 GT, Mach1, Billet

MIDPIPE's for Cobra's are the same as GT's, Mach's, and Bullits.

03machstock · 09-10-2009, 04:40 PM

Long tubes, o/r prochamber, and flowmasters ftw....i would take a vid but im at school and i leave my car at home.

09-08-2009, 11:20 PM	#1
nh70744 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: West Jefferson, NC Posts: 112	I'll admit it, I'm an exhaust noob My first car was a 2000 6 cyl. mustang, with a full exhaust already installed so I really have no clue what all I need to do to my new Mach. I'm confident I want Flowmaster 40 series mufflers, and some long tube headers, other than that I really don't know what else I need. Over on Flowmaster's website, they have the mufflers, then they have the exhaust kits, can anybody take the time and explain to me what all the kit consists of, if I just get the mufflers, what other stuff I have to have, and if I would just be better off buying the exhaust kit. I am assuming I need headers, x or h pipe, and the flowmaster catback kit. Thanks in advance for any info.

09-08-2009, 11:30 PM	#2
Shane@TM Toledo Mustangs Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: toledo, ohio Posts: 1,433	Re: I'll admit it, I'm an exhaust noob You have three major parts in an exhaust system. 1. Manifold/Headers - This is the part that is bolted directly to your engine 2. Mid-pipe - This carries the exhaust from the Manifold/headers to the last piece of your system. Usually this is piece is designed in three different fashions; X-pipe, H-pipe, and Prochamber, personal preference comes in here. Some say there is a difference, others not. This is also where you need to decide if you want to be street legal with it or not, hence catted(on road, legal) or off road pipe(not street legal). 3. Cat-Back - This is from your mid-pipe to your exhaust tips. Many brands, shapes, sizes, finishes, styles, and ways to do this. Flowmasters as you mentioned is a very popular streamline system. But there are other companies that make a better product that dont need to be welded in (IMO) such as SSS(PM John and Renae for Mach 1 Registry discount) Bassani, MAC, the list goes on. Some companies such as flowmaster and magnaflow will sell "weld ins" which use your existing pipe (or if you buy/make another set of pipes) and can be cheaper if you have the ability to do this or have pre-bent pipe available for your car. IMO your better off buying the kit whole. Do some research to be sure you get a kit that is known to fit well. When you buy your parts, since Machs are not very popular this is what you look for. Several websites that I have seen to not list the Mach1 on any of their products. Manifold/Header gaskets - 03/04 Cobra, Mach1 HEADERS - 03/04 Cobra / Mach1 MIDPIPE - 99-04 GT, Mach1, Billet CATBACK - 99-04 GT, Mach1, Billet Hope this helps and wasnt too much info! __________________ Toledo Mustang Club Under the knife AGAIN! "The more you mod it, the more it breaks" CRT PERFORMANCE TUNED

09-08-2009, 11:36 PM	#3
Shane@TM Toledo Mustangs Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: toledo, ohio Posts: 1,433	Re: I'll admit it, I'm an exhaust noob PS The exhaust soundclips thread is a good way to figure out which way you want to go... found here: http://www.mach1registry.org/forums/...ad.php?t=48861 __________________ Toledo Mustang Club Under the knife AGAIN! "The more you mod it, the more it breaks" CRT PERFORMANCE TUNED

09-09-2009, 11:22 AM	#4
Con's Mach1 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Acworth, Georgia Posts: 2,564	Re: I'll admit it, I'm an exhaust noob Well, SHANE took care of that. All you need is right there.

09-09-2009, 12:29 PM	#6
swoop1156 Parked again... Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pensacola, Florida Posts: 2,041	Re: I'll admit it, I'm an exhaust noob Absolutely! Great job on that! The only thing I can think of is with regard to headers, if you get shorty or long tube, you'll need a matching mid-pipe to fit. Same goes for if you keep the stock manifolds, you can't get a midpipe for long tubes and expect it to fit with the stock manifolds, etc. Also, "billet" above in your post should read, "Buiiltt". __________________ Sold but not forgotten... 2004 Torch Red Mach 1 IUP / 5-Speed Mach #238576 Modifications \| Borla Stinger's \| Painted C&L Intake \| 15% Tint \| Powdercoated Valve Covers \| '01 Cobra Tails \| '04 Cobra Mirrors \| '01 Cobra Bumper \| '01 Bullitt Skirts \| FR500 Steering Wheel \| MGW Shifter \| 3/8" Spacer \| IAC Restrictor \| 17x9/10.5 Mach's \| 275/315 Vredestein's \| MM Subframe Connectors \| Tokico D-Spec's \| MM 4-Bolt C/C Plates \| H&R Super Sport's \| Build Number \| #6935 of 7182

09-09-2009, 12:45 PM	#7
Keith.red.mach1 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: League City, TX Posts: 922	Re: I'll admit it, I'm an exhaust noob If you like the sound of Flowmaster check out MAC. They make long tube headers, matching H pipe, and their catback. Long tubes make good power and don't bother with any shortie headers. Also, keep in mind long tubes are a professional or /very experinced do it yourselfer job on the Mach. Best bet would be to start off with a catback and then decide if you want to bite the bullet and buy long tubes and pay for install. If not just buy an off road h pipe and you should be fine. ( I started this route and bought a used h pipe for $75 and installed myself. I later bought long tubes) Just my 2 cents.... __________________ Keith 2003 TR Mach BBK Long Tubes/O/R H pipe Magnapack catback with Spintechs JLT RAI intake, Nitto Drag Radials P&P Intake w/ 3/8 intake spacer SCT tune by Don @ LaSota Racing Steeda Triax ,Centerforce Clutch Last edited by Keith.red.mach1; 09-09-2009 at 03:26 PM.

09-09-2009, 02:39 PM	#8
nh70744 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: West Jefferson, NC Posts: 112	Re: I'll admit it, I'm an exhaust noob Preciate it guys. Yeah I definitely will have to pay for somebody to install this stuff, I can't do any of it. I'm good at cleaning inside and out, and the basic maintenance stuff, but definitely have no clue about doing mechanical work.

09-09-2009, 04:57 PM	#9
nh70744 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: West Jefferson, NC Posts: 112	Re: I'll admit it, I'm an exhaust noob Now where might be some good places to buy the exhaust parts at? I live in a pretty small town, highly doubt anybody around here could order the stuff for me any cheaper than I could order it and just get it sent to my house.

09-10-2009, 06:21 AM	#12
muzman Mach 1 enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Auckland New Zealand Posts: 1,540	Re: I'll admit it, I'm an exhaust noob well written Shane. __________________ muzman,Red 03 Mach1,5 speed IUP,Born: 14 May 2003, K&N Drop In Air filter, Mach1Canuck Special IAC restrictor plate, Black Bumper mustang letters, MRT H Pipe and magnaflow cat back, MRT Chrome exhaust extensions,Mach 1 Floor Matts, bought new 2003 first registered for road use in 2010. ___________________ 1969 351w 4v Mach 1, Red, 4 speed toploader SOLD Feb 2007 2000GT Red , Auto Right Hand Drive sold 2004.

09-10-2009, 04:40 PM	#14
03machstock Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 323	Re: I'll admit it, I'm an exhaust noob Long tubes, o/r prochamber, and flowmasters ftw....i would take a vid but im at school and i leave my car at home. __________________ 2003 Mach 1- Azure Blue-Manual- Intake/exhaust/ 01 cobra cams/ NX wet kit- 351 rwhp 350 rwtq N/A- 460 rwhp 557 rwtq 100 shot.

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