What do you think helicopters do best???? - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

G · 05-19-2008, 04:45 PM

I've been a helicopter pilot for a looooooooooong time and have always been amazed at how much utility they provide.

Attack, transport, recon, medevac, VIP trans, and even exploration. They get more reliable, faster, powerful, sexy, lethal, and expensive everyday.

They're a lot easier to fly now too. My business is training NEW Army aviators and you have to keep them engaged and challenged. I think we may have stumbled on a new method for getting them to hover more precisely and smooth out their control touch.

Keep in mind that hovering can't be done by wiggling a stick around --- you have to think ahead and just use pressure. I teach new guys to use the antitorque pedals first while I maintain control using the cyclic and collective. When they catch on I add the collective, next comes the cyclic, and then we start combining controls.

When we get to the cyclic I demo a stabilized hover while I make circles and diagonal movements with the cyclic that keeps it in motion about 6 inches from center.

Then I hover using pressure which looks like the stick ain't moving. I let them pick which method they want to master but most students progress from wiggling the stick to using pressure in a few hours.

OK, now you see that talking about flying is not as exciting as doing it. Go to my next post to see a way to make it a fun challenge.

G · 05-19-2008, 04:49 PM

The answer to the question in the title ain't --- OPEN A SIX PACK of beer bottles.

Everybody in my office could do this with ease.

CBrowning84 · 05-19-2008, 05:11 PM

Now that takes talent!

G · 05-19-2008, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBrowning84

Now that takes talent!

Plus somebody has to do the drinking.

bleed blue · 05-19-2008, 07:42 PM

I was a UH-1 (N & F) model crewchief in the USAF during the 1980's. I loved those old birds. I got some sticktime. Also tried to hover. Never really did well at that. I really admire a pilot that could hold a Huey steady. Our detachment used to wear t-shirts off duty that said: "If it doesn't hover, it sucks!" Used to really tick off the F-111 c/chiefs. LOL Ah, the good ole days.

04Torchred · 05-19-2008, 08:26 PM

I want one of those bottle openers!

The only problem is learning how to use it LOL!

JDraper · 05-19-2008, 08:30 PM

Helicopter...$35k
Flying Lessons...$10k
Fuel...$400
Cracking open a Cold One...Priceless

Azure Blurr · 05-19-2008, 08:35 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Must be a goverment worker!

Thats is cool. The camera man got a little nervous when the helio got on "his" side or maybe washed up.

rich1 · 05-19-2008, 08:55 PM

uh ...Lately they seem to be falling out of the sky !

c0nfl1kt · 05-19-2008, 11:26 PM

That was incredible maneuvering. I respect your skill and your dedication!

bleedingfordblu · 05-19-2008, 11:33 PM

wow thats beast. he must have had way too much time on his hands

24kmach · 05-20-2008, 01:12 AM

So that's where my beer went.

muzman · 05-20-2008, 01:27 AM

skills!!

G · 05-20-2008, 12:04 PM

This show pilot was an instructor with me at Fort Rucker back in the mid 90's. Roger Buis, pronounced bias.

They do a show for kids that has become very popular. There are several helicopters that can actually do aerobatics but Otto cannot, the 300C is much harder to fly than the current batch of military helicopters. He does some fun things with the it that the kids love.

Enjoy this long vid, if you want to jump ahead:

6:45 YoYo
9:15 Barrel racing
1100 bubblegum robber
1310 Banner tug (backwards)

cobramach1 · 05-20-2008, 12:21 PM

You always hear how much more expensive things are in the government. Now I know why they charge so much for a bottle opener!

That's some great flying right there. You've got a cool job.

05-19-2008, 04:45 PM	#1
G Undocumented Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Enterprise, AL Posts: 15,828	What do you think helicopters do best???? I've been a helicopter pilot for a looooooooooong time and have always been amazed at how much utility they provide. Attack, transport, recon, medevac, VIP trans, and even exploration. They get more reliable, faster, powerful, sexy, lethal, and expensive everyday. They're a lot easier to fly now too. My business is training NEW Army aviators and you have to keep them engaged and challenged. I think we may have stumbled on a new method for getting them to hover more precisely and smooth out their control touch. Keep in mind that hovering can't be done by wiggling a stick around --- you have to think ahead and just use pressure. I teach new guys to use the antitorque pedals first while I maintain control using the cyclic and collective. When they catch on I add the collective, next comes the cyclic, and then we start combining controls. When we get to the cyclic I demo a stabilized hover while I make circles and diagonal movements with the cyclic that keeps it in motion about 6 inches from center. Then I hover using pressure which looks like the stick ain't moving. I let them pick which method they want to master but most students progress from wiggling the stick to using pressure in a few hours. OK, now you see that talking about flying is not as exciting as doing it. Go to my next post to see a way to make it a fun challenge. __________________ _____________________________________________ 2003 Mach1 AB 5spd 2004 Mach1 TR 5spd (sold) 1933 Ford 3W Coupe (4.6 dohc Stack Injection) 2003 Cobra TR (sold) 2014 Mustang GT (Track Pack) in Black

05-19-2008, 04:49 PM	#2
G Undocumented Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Enterprise, AL Posts: 15,828	Re: What do you think helicopters do best???? The answer to the question in the title ain't --- OPEN A SIX PACK of beer bottles. Everybody in my office could do this with ease. __________________ _____________________________________________ 2003 Mach1 AB 5spd 2004 Mach1 TR 5spd (sold) 1933 Ford 3W Coupe (4.6 dohc Stack Injection) 2003 Cobra TR (sold) 2014 Mustang GT (Track Pack) in Black

05-19-2008, 05:11 PM	#3
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05-19-2008, 07:42 PM	#5
bleed blue Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Northern Calif. Posts: 276	Re: What do you think helicopters do best???? I was a UH-1 (N & F) model crewchief in the USAF during the 1980's. I loved those old birds. I got some sticktime. Also tried to hover. Never really did well at that. I really admire a pilot that could hold a Huey steady. Our detachment used to wear t-shirts off duty that said: "If it doesn't hover, it sucks!" Used to really tick off the F-111 c/chiefs. LOL Ah, the good ole days. __________________ 2003 Torch Red w/I.U.P. 5-spd. SLP Loudmouth exhaust Eibach springs Corbeau seats 18x9.5 chrome cobra "R"s 285/35ZR18 tires 4.10 gears Diablosport Predator tune Nitrogen Filled Tires Currently in my garage: 1965 Mustang Fastback 1963 Falcon 2 door 2005 Ford Focus ST (my daily driver) 2007 Ford Fusion SEL V-6 FWD (wife's car) 2003 Ford Focus SE (daughter's car)

05-19-2008, 08:26 PM	#6
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05-19-2008, 08:30 PM	#7
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05-19-2008, 08:35 PM	#8
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05-19-2008, 08:55 PM	#9
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bleedingfordblu Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Leesburg, VA Posts: 1,985	Re: What do you think helicopters do best???? wow thats beast. he must have had way too much time on his hands __________________ 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 Stock bottom end/compression Eaton M112 Stock upper Stock lower K&N intake Built T56 Bassani mid length headers Bassani catted x pipe Bassani slash cut tip catback Stock 03 Cobra IRS 18x9/10 Forgestar F14 Tuned by Chris Macduff at IMA motorsports 429hp 407 tq @ 7.5 lbs of boost

05-20-2008, 01:12 AM	#12
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05-20-2008, 01:27 AM	#13
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05-20-2008, 12:04 PM	#14
G Undocumented Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Enterprise, AL Posts: 15,828	Re: What do you think helicopters do best???? This show pilot was an instructor with me at Fort Rucker back in the mid 90's. Roger Buis, pronounced bias. They do a show for kids that has become very popular. There are several helicopters that can actually do aerobatics but Otto cannot, the 300C is much harder to fly than the current batch of military helicopters. He does some fun things with the it that the kids love. Enjoy this long vid, if you want to jump ahead: 6:45 YoYo 9:15 Barrel racing 1100 bubblegum robber 1310 Banner tug (backwards) __________________ _____________________________________________ 2003 Mach1 AB 5spd 2004 Mach1 TR 5spd (sold) 1933 Ford 3W Coupe (4.6 dohc Stack Injection) 2003 Cobra TR (sold) 2014 Mustang GT (Track Pack) in Black Last edited by G; 05-20-2008 at 05:55 PM.

05-20-2008, 12:21 PM	#15
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