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Mach1Speed03 · 12-06-2007, 03:17 PM

Hey I have basic boltons doen to my mach 1 5 spd. It is my daily driver. Is going all motor a good idea. Can anyone guide me as far as what mods i need to do, heads, cam.... what hp numbers would i be lookin at

JDLM · 12-06-2007, 03:47 PM

So want to go full blown NA?

Head work
Cams
Exhaust
Intake manifold work

I am sure there is way more

mkb116 · 12-06-2007, 03:47 PM

All motor is a great idea for a mach 1!! Gears, bolt on's, suspension and you can get that car to run!!

After that you can start with the heads, cams, intake manifold..

wutang61 · 12-06-2007, 04:36 PM

Full head port and polish
stage 3 Cams
Full Exhaust
FR500 intake
big-bore stroker with flat tops.

Stopsign32v · 12-06-2007, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by wutang61

Full head port and polish
stage 3 Cams
Full Exhaust
FR500 intake
big-bore stroker with flat tops.

Good God that would be an expensive daily driver!

ponygt65 · 12-06-2007, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mach1Speed03

Hey I have basic boltons doen to my mach 1 5 spd. It is my daily driver. Is going all motor a good idea. Can anyone guide me as far as what mods i need to do, heads, cam.... what hp numbers would i be lookin at

Um.....really depends on your long term goal.

You want a high HP DD, a Quick DD, or a moderately high HP and fairly Quick DD.

I mean..there are bolt ons and gears...weight reduction, small shot of the juice if you want to visit track once ina while....MORE INFO SONNY!!

3150Mach1 · 12-06-2007, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by wutang61

Full head port and polish
stage 3 Cams
Full Exhaust
FR500 intake
big-bore stroker with flat tops.

Plus the thickest intake spacer you can fit under the hood and shaker

2k4mach · 12-06-2007, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 03Mach150BP

Plus the thickest intake spacer you can fit under the hood and shaker

ummmmmm why with a fr500 intake?

wutang61 · 12-06-2007, 08:42 PM

all motor is a road few have chosen to walk down.

wutang61 · 12-06-2007, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wutang61

Full head port and polish
stage 3 Cams
Full Exhaust
FR500 intake
big-bore stroker with flat tops.

with those mods a aggressive tune your talking 425+

OSUALUM78 · 12-06-2007, 08:48 PM

I plan to stay NA for the life of my Mach, and plan to mod it as much as possible in the future as money allows, eventhough, I know it will be the most costly method, and I can get more power for cheaper going the laughing gas or turbo or supercharger route

Road Racin Mach · 12-06-2007, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mach1Speed03

Hey I have basic boltons doen to my mach 1 5 spd. It is my daily driver. Is going all motor a good idea. Can anyone guide me as far as what mods i need to do, heads, cam.... what hp numbers would i be lookin at

start with you suspension! You would be suprised what the mach can do with traction. Gears. Short throw shifter. Lighten it up. Then once you maximize what you got. Build a motor. or spend 15K on a "cammer"

EPIKMACH · 12-06-2007, 11:15 PM

How bout longtubes? Are they worth the hassle?
I want that cammer motor....

Road Racin Mach · 12-06-2007, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by EPIKMACH

How bout longtubes? Are they worth the hassle?
I want that cammer motor....

With a stock motor I would say no. Plus they hang pretty low.

sampson101st · 12-06-2007, 11:24 PM

ill tell you this, DO the long tubes after you do the clutch!!! Trust me. arrrrrrr.

sampson101st · 12-06-2007, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Road Racin Mach

With a stock motor I would say no. Plus they hang pretty low.

disagree 100%

2k4mach · 12-06-2007, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sampson101st

ill tell you this, DO the long tubes after you do the clutch!!! Trust me. arrrrrrr.

or buy a set of longtubes that allows you to pull the tranny without yanking the headers

wutang61 · 12-06-2007, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 2k4mach

or buy a set of longtubes that allows you to pull the tranny without yanking the headers

*cough* kooks *cough*

Road Racin Mach · 12-06-2007, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sampson101st

disagree 100%

Why? Judging by your dyno #s it doesn't look like they did you any good. I put down more rwhp and rwtq without the longtubes.

2k4mach · 12-07-2007, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Road Racin Mach

Why? Judging by your dyno #s it doesn't look like they did you any good. I put down more rwhp and rwtq without the longtubes.

*sigh*.
more than just longtubes come into play into dyno #'s...........weather when dynoed, agressiviness of the tune............

Road Racin Mach · 12-07-2007, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 2k4mach

*sigh*.
more than just longtubes come into play into dyno #'s...........weather when dynoed, agressiviness of the tune............

No sigh. I didnt mean to insult anyones car/mods. Its just that I have had both of my machs on the dyno at different times of the year. hot as hell and at about 60* one put down 297rwhpsae 317rwtqsae and the other put down 301 and 320. Both with off road h. The 297 was with flowmaster and 301 was with borlas. Both with C&L cold air intake. And different people tuning. Both done with a predator.

2k4mach · 12-07-2007, 12:23 AM

i put down 324/331 with midlengths, full bolt ons, in 100+ humid azz texas summer.
ive also made 352 with stock manifolds......
everycar is different.

Stopsign32v · 12-07-2007, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Road Racin Mach

I put down more rwhp and rwtq without the longtubes.

3150Mach1 · 12-07-2007, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by EPIKMACH

How bout longtubes? Are they worth the hassle?
I want that cammer motor....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Road Racin Mach

With a stock motor I would say no. Plus they hang pretty low.

My long tubes and OR X that replaced my stock exhaust manifold and MRT catted Hpipe made a big improvement in my slowmatic. They also do not hang to low for me. My deep tranny pan is still the lowest part of the car.

Ben99GT · 12-07-2007, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 2k4mach

ummmmmm why with a fr500 intake?

Seems the FR500 intake suffers from the same problem as the stock Mach intake. MM&FF/Westech yanked the lid off of the FR500 intake (FAST system) and picked up something like 25hp versus with the lid in place. A spacer would help the FR500 too I bet.

12-06-2007, 03:17 PM	#1
Mach1Speed03 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: MD. Posts: 112	All motor Mach. Hey I have basic boltons doen to my mach 1 5 spd. It is my daily driver. Is going all motor a good idea. Can anyone guide me as far as what mods i need to do, heads, cam.... what hp numbers would i be lookin at

12-06-2007, 03:47 PM	#2
JDLM Guest Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Iraq Posts: 1,226	Re: All motor Mach. So want to go full blown NA? Head work Cams Exhaust Intake manifold work I am sure there is way more

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mkb116 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Central California Posts: 139	Re: All motor Mach. All motor is a great idea for a mach 1!! Gears, bolt on's, suspension and you can get that car to run!! After that you can start with the heads, cams, intake manifold..

12-06-2007, 04:36 PM	#4
wutang61 CAT MASTA! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Vero Beach, Florida Posts: 3,406	Re: All motor Mach. Full head port and polish stage 3 Cams Full Exhaust FR500 intake big-bore stroker with flat tops. __________________ 04' Torched *6-speed* Build Date: 02/25/2004 Ported Eaton @7psi Viper T-56 Built 8.8,4.10's 441/402 Last edited by wutang61; 12-06-2007 at 08:46 PM.

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wutang61 CAT MASTA! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Vero Beach, Florida Posts: 3,406	Re: All motor Mach. all motor is a road few have chosen to walk down. __________________ 04' Torched *6-speed* Build Date: 02/25/2004 Ported Eaton @7psi Viper T-56 Built 8.8,4.10's 441/402

12-06-2007, 08:48 PM	#11
OSUALUM78 2003 Black Cobra Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Somewhere in the middle Posts: 2,506	Re: All motor Mach. I plan to stay NA for the life of my Mach, and plan to mod it as much as possible in the future as money allows, eventhough, I know it will be the most costly method, and I can get more power for cheaper going the laughing gas or turbo or supercharger route __________________ 2003 Black Cobra Build #2224 of 8394 Born: 08/19/02 Mods: nothing worth noting... right now Jamie: custom pedal mountain bike built by me Bettie: 2004 Black Mach 1 (sold but not forgotten)

12-06-2007, 11:15 PM	#13
EPIKMACH Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Posts: 637	Re: All motor Mach. How bout longtubes? Are they worth the hassle? I want that cammer motor.... __________________ 03 Torch Red Mach 1=Born on 4/17/03 Full MM suspension. Full Exhaust. 4.10's etc. Tuned by AED=309rwhp/323rwtq. :12.73 @107: 91 Oxford White LX Notch= 5 lug swap. H/C/I. Stock bottom end. Full exhaust. 3.73's.=300rwhp & 320rwtq. :12.75 @110:

12-06-2007, 11:24 PM	#15
sampson101st 04 mach1 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: dothan Posts: 850	Re: All motor Mach. ill tell you this, DO the long tubes after you do the clutch!!! Trust me. arrrrrrr. __________________ DSG 04 mach, Tuned @ Panhandle Performance NA-292rwhp/302rwtq corrected Spray- 394rwhp/405rwtq corrected 00 lightning, paid for.12lbs boost. 03 lightning, paid for.10lbs boost.

12-07-2007, 12:23 AM	#22
2k4mach LuLz Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cedar Park, TX Posts: 19,294	Re: All motor Mach. i put down 324/331 with midlengths, full bolt ons, in 100+ humid azz texas summer. ive also made 352 with stock manifolds...... everycar is different. __________________ 11 Sterling gray GT500 coupe 08 Silver Z06 1058rwhp/1073rwt @ 15psi 14 Silver Q50S Vortech blown 04 DSG Mach 1 (stolen) 03 OW Mach 1 (sitting in a field rotting away)

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