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Old 11-24-2007, 04:39 PM   #1
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Before I ask let me clarify that this incident happened at a private strip regulated by rules and regulations, also in the presence of off duty police officers, firefighters, and emt's. Now this private strip unfortunately does not have trees or time slips this isnt pinks way out in the boonies. With that being said.......I went up against another Mustang a few weekends back and when I got ready to slow down I put my car into neutral and began to slow down by slowly pushing the brakes but not mashing them. When I got closer to the turn around I pushed a little harder and thats when my car locked up, the steering and brakes wouldnt move so I had to allowed the car to coast to the side and once it came to a complete stop I was able to start it again. This isnt the first time it's happened. I have posted this thread before but I wasnt clear on the location and I offended some moderators. The advice I got before was good but I didnt get much before it was locked. I did have a full tank of gas and my car only has 5800 miles. But while im at it after I filled up the other day I had been driving around for about 5 minutes when my low fuel light came on and I looked and it said it was on E, a few minutes later it went off and showed F again. Related or unrelated? Please help me out and let me know what it is. I really appreciate all the positive advice I get on here and this forum is the first I turn to. No one better than other Mach lovers!
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Old 11-24-2007, 04:57 PM   #2
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I would not slip it into neutral let the engine slow it down my best advice. Ok when filling up to get the gauge to work properly you have to shut the key off for it to register that you have filled up if you dont it takes some time realize that you put gas in.
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Old 11-24-2007, 05:00 PM   #3
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I would not slip it into neutral let the engine slow it down my best advice.
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Old 11-24-2007, 05:01 PM   #4
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It sounds like the K&N CAI stall
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Old 11-24-2007, 06:56 PM   #6
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April, it sounds like the car stopped running at some point during the slow down period. You don't specify it until after the difficulty in stopping/steering, and that will both happen if the engine dies. Power brakes are normally boosted on most cars by engine vacuum. The power steering is boosted by a belt driven pump. Our cars differ in that the brake boost is done by the power steering pump, it's a system called Hydro-Boost. When the engine dies and the transmission is in neutral, there is nothing to turn the pump and therefore the steering gets extemely heavy and the boost to the brakes disappears as well.
Hope this makes some sense of some of the issues your talking about.
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Old 11-24-2007, 08:14 PM   #7
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April, it sounds like the car stopped running at some point during the slow down period. You don't specify it until after the difficulty in stopping/steering, and that will both happen if the engine dies. Power brakes are normally boosted on most cars by engine vacuum. The power steering is boosted by a belt driven pump. Our cars differ in that the brake boost is done by the power steering pump, it's a system called Hydro-Boost. When the engine dies and the transmission is in neutral, there is nothing to turn the pump and therefore the steering gets extemely heavy and the boost to the brakes disappears as well.
Hope this makes some sense of some of the issues your talking about.
I was wondering why the brakes would do that, so Thank you. What made the engine die? Everyone says to not put it in neutral to slow down (on here) but other people in person say thats how theyve always done it. Is it different on Mustangs?
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More than likely you rpms dropped so low that when you applied the brake the motor could not over come the load that was place on it. Now why that happen could be a drivability issue. I would suggest not slipping it into neutral and coasting. I assume you have a automatic leave it in drive and you shouldnt have that issue again. If you have a stick then rev the motor just a bit before applying brake or turning.
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I was wondering why the brakes would do that, so Thank you. What made the engine die? Everyone says to not put it in neutral to slow down (on here) but other people in person say thats how theyve always done it. Is it different on Mustangs?

Obviously it should NOT die, but this has been a reoccurring issue with a number of cars. Mine has done it in normal driving, but when decelerating from my 1/4 mile runs at NPR there is enough of a slow down area that I let it decelerate with the car in gear and only mild use of the brakes. Obviously not all tracks offer such an area before hitting the turn around. My '01 GT never had an issue with this. That's the only other EFI Mustang Ive owned, so I have only limited reference in regard to otehr Mustangs.
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Old 11-24-2007, 09:43 PM   #11
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More than likely you rpms dropped so low that when you applied the brake the motor could not over come the load that was place on it. Now why that happen could be a drivability issue. I would suggest not slipping it into neutral and coasting. I assume you have a automatic leave it in drive and you shouldnt have that issue again. If you have a stick then rev the motor just a bit before applying brake or turning.
Its a 5spd and next time, if we have a chance to go out there again i'll give it a try and i'll leave it in gear.
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Old 11-25-2007, 02:34 AM   #12
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Mine does it all the time when I pop outta gear after a high RPM pull.

When you slip to neutral, TAP the gas, not rev the sh!t out of it....TAP. A few TAP's of the gas will allow it to learn its not under load, and should be ok... that's what I do an it no longer stalls.
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