Dodge charger - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

noob · 07-14-2007, 08:01 PM

Of the newer dodge chargers what the best trim you guys can beat stock for stock. personal experiences wanted not just guesses.

FloridaOrange · 07-14-2007, 08:04 PM

I've smacked around an R/T without any trouble so my guess is a stock mach would only have trouble with an SRT8.

eenster · 07-14-2007, 08:09 PM

yea i smoked stock magnum and charger r/t's all day. when i was stock

Cooldbz12 · 07-14-2007, 08:17 PM

I could walk SRT-8 Chargers when i just had SLP weld in mufflers. They may have alot of HP but are way too heavy.

importkilla · 07-14-2007, 08:18 PM

I pulled on an SRT8 on the highway with the mods in my sig. They are nothing special if you ask me...

Mark04Mach1 · 07-14-2007, 09:27 PM

they're good lookin but slow...

TorchedMach1 · 07-14-2007, 09:41 PM

I've killed an R/T with 20" rims on the freeway, and pulled on an SRT-8 as well. Alotta power but heavy. I haven't seen an R/T break into the 13's at the rack yet.

noob · 07-15-2007, 12:05 AM

well thanks everyone for posting. keep them coming.

IMachU · 07-15-2007, 12:32 AM

Keep the track stories coming....no street racing posts are allowed on this site.

As you were....

noob · 07-15-2007, 01:04 AM

If they was able to shave off maybe 500 lbs then the charger would be close in weight to the mach which wouldn't be good for you guys though and them dang 20 in rims thats alittle over doing it 18 should be the max lol. Do you guys know what a ruff estimate of the difference in weight between 18's and 20's?

G · 07-15-2007, 01:27 AM

Charger = heavy = slooooooooooooooooooooooooow :LAUGH:

I think they're ugly too.

I'm a real fan. :LAUGH:

Zor · 07-15-2007, 07:17 AM

What do the SRT-8's run at the track bone stock?

Immortal LuD · 07-15-2007, 10:34 AM

In the past threads, it was said that they ran low to mid 13's... True? I don't know... I've seen them go down to 12's pretty easily though.

rsnider · 07-15-2007, 12:42 PM

I think that like most model of cars there are the people who bought, hook line and sinker, the salesmans line that they are the fastest car on the street. Chrysler has none an incredible job of making the "It's got a hemi" ad campaign a success. Now, for their actual performance... I've had guys that swore they were showroom stock and turn around 13.0 with the R/T. Then the next guy with the same car pulls to the line and and cannot get out of the 14's. I personally don't belive that a actual stock R/T is faster than mid-13's AT BEST. There was an SRT-8 at Speedworld (AZ) a month ago that the owner had pulled the original engine and had it stroked (lots of $$, no sense). This car was beautiful and sounded bad to the bone. I spend all night waiting for this guy to run. He iced the intake, talked a blue streak in the pits about how fast this car was... and by the sound everyone believed every single word (even me). When he finally ran it was around 13.2. What a dissapointment. A true example of someone putting way too much $$ in the engine only and not working on the whole package. There must have been 250 wasted hp that did nothing but eat up tire rubber.

Bottom line... R/T=13.5, SRT-8=12.95 (Best possible conditions, best possible driver, best possible track, best possible tune). I think that like with the 60's vintage hemi's, the SRT-8 has the potential, but few are smart enough to tap the best it can do.

Only my .02 and experience watching dozens at the track. Keep in mind Phoenix is 1300ft and sometimes VERY hot.

noob · 07-15-2007, 04:05 PM

I haven't actually purchased a mach yet but i'm really interested in them but i've also like the charger's looks and yes it does have some good power numbers but there just so dang heavy. I like the awd option for the r/t but would perfer an srt8 lol. Most likely I will get a mach when i make my purchase in 2009, but i was throwing around some ideas like a t/a but thats a whole other thing thanks guys for responding.

funk · 07-19-2007, 09:23 AM

My buddie was running low to mid 13's in his SRT-8 Jeep. Not bad for a SUV.......
Mods
Besides the K&N, I had the low-speed fan relay pulled the for the entire evening and coolant temps stayed between 190 & 195°.

try846 · 07-19-2007, 09:51 AM

My buddy just bought and SRT8, very nice car. These are high speed cruisers, they do not have the pull the Mach does, but at 140 the car is smooth as hell. I guess they are good for 173 top speed. They are not geared for the quarter mile either. I wonder what difference that would make, you just can't change the weight thing with much success. I still love the car and if I was looking at a cruisin type car I would buy one.

HotRod · 07-19-2007, 11:09 AM

Im not sure how a simple bolt-on Mach is walking from any of the SRT-8s. Our Magnum runs 13.1s@105-106 on a 1.96 60', with just weld in mufflers. Thats running door to door with the vast majority of Machs. If you look at those freak 12.9 runs, for either the Machs or SRT-8s, its not in the same conditions. This was at 65-70* and humid. Id say its a drivers race.

The R/Ts arent going to run 13.5s stock. They are pretty consistent at 14.0-14.2 depending on track conditions. They can easily run in the mid 13s with a few bolt-ons though. Not much of a threat to a Mach, but for a GT, Id watch out.

atk#332 · 07-21-2007, 02:01 AM

none, they're all hellacious taaaanks

Hawkgfr · 07-22-2007, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotRod

Im not sure how a simple bolt-on Mach is walking from any of the SRT-8s. Our Magnum runs 13.1s@105-106 on a 1.96 60', with just weld in mufflers. Thats running door to door with the vast majority of Machs. If you look at those freak 12.9 runs, for either the Machs or SRT-8s, its not in the same conditions. This was at 65-70* and humid. Id say its a drivers race.

The R/Ts arent going to run 13.5s stock. They are pretty consistent at 14.0-14.2 depending on track conditions. They can easily run in the mid 13s with a few bolt-ons though. Not much of a threat to a Mach, but for a GT, Id watch out.

They are not......The mach has no trouble with the RT's but the SRT's are plenty fast....(at the TRACK anyways....

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ponygt65 · 07-22-2007, 06:43 PM

I researched the chargers as well. Unless you get the SRT8..dont' bother. I test drove a daytona then researched them. The R/Ts and Daytona's are mid 14s (low at best). The SRT8s are high 12s, low 13s.

Mid 13s for an R/T (or) Daytona is BS....ESPECIALLY stock.

Hawkgfr · 07-22-2007, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ponygt65

I researched the chargers as well. Unless you get the SRT8..dont' bother. I test drove a daytona then researched them. The R/Ts and Daytona's are mid 14s (low at best). The SRT8s are high 12s, low 13s.

Mid 13s for an R/T (or) Daytona is BS....ESPECIALLY stock.

That a very fair statement....the 5.7 HEMI's have have to spend a grand or so to even smidge high 13's...No contest for the Mach's...

FEARED · 07-23-2007, 12:50 PM

I can walk all over the R/Ts.. im not sure if it was modded or not, i know it was some heavy crome 20s though!

gotmach · 07-23-2007, 12:58 PM

A black R/T with red stripes pulled up to me about a month ago at a stop light . The driver and his buddy were wearing sunglasses and looked like those to guys from the movie BULLITTE . He reved up his motor and I reved mine up. His sounded like a Honda compaired to mine. lol We left the lite together and once my car hooked all he saw was tail lights. I think its better to launch from lower rpms. Mach1s spin the tires too much on take off. Im sure a set of slicks would have helped. Id say I had him by at least 2 to 2 and half cars the whole time. They passed me latter and gave me thumbs up.. Cool guys

07-14-2007, 08:01 PM	#1
noob Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: lima, ohio Posts: 148	Dodge charger Of the newer dodge chargers what the best trim you guys can beat stock for stock. personal experiences wanted not just guesses.

07-14-2007, 08:04 PM	#2
FloridaOrange SCS Homie Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Southwest Florida Posts: 3,643	Re: Dodge charger I've smacked around an R/T without any trouble so my guess is a stock mach would only have trouble with an SRT8.

07-14-2007, 08:17 PM	#4
Cooldbz12 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: FS, TX Posts: 796	Re: Dodge charger I could walk SRT-8 Chargers when i just had SLP weld in mufflers. They may have alot of HP but are way too heavy. __________________ 2003 Mustang Mach 1 (Bought 11/16/2005) Eaton Swapped @7psi (On 10/24/15) 13.2@107 (Bone Stock Run) 2000 3.8 Mustang Sold But Will Never Be Forgotten

07-14-2007, 08:18 PM	#5
importkilla Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 115	Re: Dodge charger I pulled on an SRT8 on the highway with the mods in my sig. They are nothing special if you ask me...

07-14-2007, 09:27 PM	#6
Mark04Mach1 No mames.... Join Date: May 2006 Location: Del Rio, Texas Posts: 2,449	Re: Dodge charger they're good lookin but slow... __________________ sold all my cars..

07-14-2007, 08:09 PM	#3
eenster Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: machesney park,IL Posts: 332	Re: Dodge charger yea i smoked stock magnum and charger r/t's all day. when i was stock __________________ 03 oxford white AUTO (hand controls!) best ET stock ...13.574@102.83 now... 11.593@117.19 Kooks lt's, kooks o/r X, and a magnaflow cat back. vortech supercharger, snow proformance meth injection kit, torq converter, and a tru-cool trans cooler, 4.10's moser 31 spline axles, auburn pro 31 spline diff. afs 17x10.5 with a 315 BFG DR out back!

07-14-2007, 09:41 PM	#7
TorchedMach1 TorchedMach1 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 798	Re: Dodge charger I've killed an R/T with 20" rims on the freeway, and pulled on an SRT-8 as well. Alotta power but heavy. I haven't seen an R/T break into the 13's at the rack yet. __________________ Arizona's Fastest Mach 1 *11.14 @ 120 w/ 1.48 60'* 3300 lbs With Driver GO-FAST MODS O/R H-Pipe Magnaflow Catback K&N FIPK GEN II Roy's Composite Spacer T-56 6 Speed Liberty 26 Spline Input Shaft Steeda Tri-Ax Spec Stage 3+ Clutch Aluminum Flywheel Aluminum Driveshaft Built 31 Spline Rear w/ 4.30's Rear upper and Lower Control Arms NX Wet Kit (100 Shot) SCT Chip Custom Tune by Devin @ www.performancesolutionracing.com

07-15-2007, 12:05 AM	#8
noob Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: lima, ohio Posts: 148	Re: Dodge charger well thanks everyone for posting. keep them coming.

07-15-2007, 12:32 AM	#9
IMachU Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In My Import Posts: 4,714	Re: Dodge charger Keep the track stories coming....no street racing posts are allowed on this site. As you were.... __________________ Machless.... 2003 DSG 5 speed IUP Born June 25, 2003 K&N Drop-in Filter, Magnapack Catback, MRT black chrome tips, MRT shifter 277.1 HP (321.4) 296.4 (343.8) TQ SAE (with 16% powertrain loss calculated, before mods), Sirius satellite radio, MGW black on black locking Bullitt fuel door, MGW goodies - sold on 7-19-07

07-15-2007, 01:04 AM	#10
noob Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: lima, ohio Posts: 148	Re: Dodge charger If they was able to shave off maybe 500 lbs then the charger would be close in weight to the mach which wouldn't be good for you guys though and them dang 20 in rims thats alittle over doing it 18 should be the max lol. Do you guys know what a ruff estimate of the difference in weight between 18's and 20's?

07-15-2007, 01:27 AM	#11
G Undocumented Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Enterprise, AL Posts: 15,828	Re: Dodge charger Charger = heavy = slooooooooooooooooooooooooow :LAUGH: I think they're ugly too. I'm a real fan. :LAUGH: __________________ _____________________________________________ 2003 Mach1 AB 5spd 2004 Mach1 TR 5spd (sold) 1933 Ford 3W Coupe (4.6 dohc Stack Injection) 2003 Cobra TR (sold) 2014 Mustang GT (Track Pack) in Black

07-15-2007, 07:17 AM	#12
Zor Noobie at Large Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Allentown,PA Posts: 262	Re: Dodge charger What do the SRT-8's run at the track bone stock? __________________ 04 Azure Blue Mach 1 5sp, IUP, K&N Air Filter mygamercard

07-15-2007, 10:34 AM	#13
Immortal LuD Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Daytona Beach, FL Posts: 556	Re: Dodge charger In the past threads, it was said that they ran low to mid 13's... True? I don't know... I've seen them go down to 12's pretty easily though.

07-15-2007, 12:42 PM	#14
rsnider Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,336	Re: Dodge charger I think that like most model of cars there are the people who bought, hook line and sinker, the salesmans line that they are the fastest car on the street. Chrysler has none an incredible job of making the "It's got a hemi" ad campaign a success. Now, for their actual performance... I've had guys that swore they were showroom stock and turn around 13.0 with the R/T. Then the next guy with the same car pulls to the line and and cannot get out of the 14's. I personally don't belive that a actual stock R/T is faster than mid-13's AT BEST. There was an SRT-8 at Speedworld (AZ) a month ago that the owner had pulled the original engine and had it stroked (lots of $$, no sense). This car was beautiful and sounded bad to the bone. I spend all night waiting for this guy to run. He iced the intake, talked a blue streak in the pits about how fast this car was... and by the sound everyone believed every single word (even me). When he finally ran it was around 13.2. What a dissapointment. A true example of someone putting way too much $$ in the engine only and not working on the whole package. There must have been 250 wasted hp that did nothing but eat up tire rubber. Bottom line... R/T=13.5, SRT-8=12.95 (Best possible conditions, best possible driver, best possible track, best possible tune). I think that like with the 60's vintage hemi's, the SRT-8 has the potential, but few are smart enough to tap the best it can do. Only my .02 and experience watching dozens at the track. Keep in mind Phoenix is 1300ft and sometimes VERY hot.

07-15-2007, 04:05 PM	#15
noob Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: lima, ohio Posts: 148	Re: Dodge charger I haven't actually purchased a mach yet but i'm really interested in them but i've also like the charger's looks and yes it does have some good power numbers but there just so dang heavy. I like the awd option for the r/t but would perfer an srt8 lol. Most likely I will get a mach when i make my purchase in 2009, but i was throwing around some ideas like a t/a but thats a whole other thing thanks guys for responding.

07-19-2007, 09:23 AM	#16
funk Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Magnolia,Tx Posts: 988	Re: Dodge charger My buddie was running low to mid 13's in his SRT-8 Jeep. Not bad for a SUV....... Mods Besides the K&N, I had the low-speed fan relay pulled the for the entire evening and coolant temps stayed between 190 & 195°. __________________ http://tappedoutracing.com/

07-19-2007, 09:51 AM	#17
try846 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 414	Re: Dodge charger My buddy just bought and SRT8, very nice car. These are high speed cruisers, they do not have the pull the Mach does, but at 140 the car is smooth as hell. I guess they are good for 173 top speed. They are not geared for the quarter mile either. I wonder what difference that would make, you just can't change the weight thing with much success. I still love the car and if I was looking at a cruisin type car I would buy one. __________________ 2003 Azure Mach1 Fully forged shortblock w/ ARP hardware, JAN 05 heads, 8 rib setup IW 10% OD CS, RR 2.90 Pulley, Thump RR tensioner with KB 2.1 @18psi ,Accufab TB;AFCO dual pass HE,SCT X3,FAST 02 meter, Full JBA exhaust,Centerforce DFX Cl, Fidanza al FW, FRPP al. DS, FRPP traction lok rear w/FRPP 3.73 gears and FRPP 31 spline axles, FRPP rear axle girdle, UPR coil overs with tubular K member, Wilwood 6 pis. calipers w/ 2 piece , 03 cobra bumper. DYNO 550/550 16PSI

07-19-2007, 11:09 AM	#18
HotRod I Love Being Blown! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Orlando, Fl. USA! Posts: 1,567	Re: Dodge charger Im not sure how a simple bolt-on Mach is walking from any of the SRT-8s. Our Magnum runs 13.1s@105-106 on a 1.96 60', with just weld in mufflers. Thats running door to door with the vast majority of Machs. If you look at those freak 12.9 runs, for either the Machs or SRT-8s, its not in the same conditions. This was at 65-70* and humid. Id say its a drivers race. The R/Ts arent going to run 13.5s stock. They are pretty consistent at 14.0-14.2 depending on track conditions. They can easily run in the mid 13s with a few bolt-ons though. Not much of a threat to a Mach, but for a GT, Id watch out. __________________ Rod K. '04 Ram 2500 Q/C 4x4 CTD

07-21-2007, 02:01 AM	#19
atk#332 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: montana/iowa Posts: 107	Re: Dodge charger none, they're all hellacious taaaanks __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] 2002 saleen s281 #332 - totalled - hail/tree damage 2004 mach 1 competition orange- sold

07-22-2007, 06:43 PM	#21
ponygt65 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Madera, CA Posts: 7,687	Re: Dodge charger I researched the chargers as well. Unless you get the SRT8..dont' bother. I test drove a daytona then researched them. The R/Ts and Daytona's are mid 14s (low at best). The SRT8s are high 12s, low 13s. Mid 13s for an R/T (or) Daytona is BS....ESPECIALLY stock. __________________ Current Stable: NO stangs.....DON'T F'ING remind me. Previous stangs: 2003 Mineral Grey Cobra Vert 1965 Factory GT K Code Coupe - mostly original and numbers matching. 14.9 (best) GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN!! 2003 MACh 1 AB - MINE!..SLP LM1s, PHP Spacer, and a CAI, that wont' stop whistling. 2004 MACh 1 DSG - PHP spacer, BOrla Stingers, K and N CAI, Tune, X-pipe, 1" 1-piece raised shaker...yadda yadda.

07-23-2007, 12:50 PM	#23
FEARED USN Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NAS Lemoore, CA Posts: 666	Re: Dodge charger I can walk all over the R/Ts.. im not sure if it was modded or not, i know it was some heavy crome 20s though! __________________ 2003 Mach 1, Torch Red, 5 Speed, IUP K&N Intake, MM CC Plates, Lowering Springs, MAC o/r H pipe, SLP Loudmouth Cat Back, Hurst Shifter, Nitrous, Roush LCA, Cobra R Style 17x10.5, SCT Tuner, MT DRs, MM Front Coil Overs, Alum DS ... Mine Since April 06' #8616

07-23-2007, 12:58 PM	#24
gotmach Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Lynchburg Va. Posts: 2,046	Re: Dodge charger A black R/T with red stripes pulled up to me about a month ago at a stop light . The driver and his buddy were wearing sunglasses and looked like those to guys from the movie BULLITTE . He reved up his motor and I reved mine up. His sounded like a Honda compaired to mine. lol We left the lite together and once my car hooked all he saw was tail lights. I think its better to launch from lower rpms. Mach1s spin the tires too much on take off. Im sure a set of slicks would have helped. Id say I had him by at least 2 to 2 and half cars the whole time. They passed me latter and gave me thumbs up.. Cool guys __________________ GOT MACH ? "does your body good"

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