test drove an 07 today - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

65fastback2+2 · 02-28-2007, 09:45 PM

no im not getting rid of the mach, i just had some time to waste and figured why not.

I actually test drove a GT/CS....and with there only being like $700 between stickers, i dunno why anyone would get a regular GT.

Inside was ok...it felt cheaper than the mach though...all the plastic felt cheaper. Center console was too high around the shifter. Back seat area was smaller. Car was ALOT slower than the mach...i dunno how people say barely. I could barely take my eyes off the shaker missing hood.

Ride was smoother and quieter. Regular fuel would be nice. Heated seats

Thats my quick review on the s197's.

24kmach · 02-28-2007, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 65fastback2+2

no im not getting rid of the mach, i just had some time to waste and figured why not.

I actually test drove a GT/CS....and with there only being like $700 between stickers, i dunno why anyone would get a regular GT.

Inside was ok...it felt cheaper than the mach though...all the plastic felt cheaper. Center console was too high around the shifter. Back seat area was smaller. Car was ALOT slower than the mach...i dunno how people say barely. I could barely take my eyes off the shaker missing hood.

Ride was smoother and quieter. Regular fuel would be nice. Heated seats

Thats my quick review on the s197's.

Right on the money

jbrad88 · 02-28-2007, 09:55 PM

I spent a little more seat time today in my friends 06 now that he has added the motorsport "K" springs. I have always liked the s197. It is a fun car to drive, but it is not the Mach. I will say it handles exceptionally well. It is not as fast as the Mach, but I have enough bolt-ons to make the stock difference that much more noticeable. I actually liked the ride of the mach better, and I like our cable activated clutch too. It is noticeably heavier than the new cars...

here is a link to the Corral where he has his car...

it is the wildfire 06 under sig JEFFO...

http://www.corral.net/forums/showthr...28#post6689928

65fastback2+2 · 02-28-2007, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by John and Renae

I actually liked the ride of the mach better, and I like our cable activated clutch too. It is noticeably heavier than the new cars...

ya...i love the way the mach rides....i like to be able to feel the road in the rear to know where im at when im sliding around a turn lol....

i thought our clutches were hydraulic and the s197's were cable....either way, that was another thing, i could sneeze and the clutch would go down in the s197

Dfanucci · 02-28-2007, 10:01 PM

Don't know where you got a 700 difference. Must be an option thing, because my GT stickered 3,500 less than the GT/CS and there is no way 2 tone leather, stripes and a functionless hood scoop justify that....

jbrad88 · 02-28-2007, 10:04 PM

The mach uses the cable as all fox-based chassis cars do. The s197's use the hydraulic assist.

65fastback2+2 · 02-28-2007, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dfanucci

Don't know where you got a 700 difference. Must be an option thing, because my GT stickered 3,500 less than the GT/CS and there is no way 2 tone leather, stripes and a functionless hood scoop justify that....

$29950 for a GT and $30800 for a GT/CS. I liked the stripes...MUCH better wheels...the front facia was very nice along with the rear facia...there was no hood scoop tho, but it did have the side scoops....I thought it was worth $850

Dfanucci · 02-28-2007, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 65fastback2+2

$29950 for a GT and $30800 for a GT/CS. I liked the stripes...MUCH better wheels...the front facia was very nice along with the rear facia...there was no hood scoop tho, but it did have the side scoops....I thought it was worth $850

Gotcha.

Tony Alonso · 02-28-2007, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 65fastback2+2

no im not getting rid of the mach, i just had some time to waste and figured why not.

I actually test drove a GT/CS....and with there only being like $700 between stickers, i dunno why anyone would get a regular GT.

Because some people like the styling of one vs. the other. Mechanically, they are the same.

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Originally Posted by 65fastback2+2

Inside was ok...it felt cheaper than the mach though...all the plastic felt cheaper.

Lots of plastic in both. They both are similar to me.

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Originally Posted by 65fastback2+2

Center console was too high around the shifter.

Shifter falls right to hand!

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Originally Posted by 65fastback2+2

Back seat area was smaller.

They have more room than the SN-95 cars. The front seats can go back farther, which is why it looks like there is less room. People who have sat in both have mentioned they fit better in the S197.

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Originally Posted by 65fastback2+2

Car was ALOT slower than the mach...i dunno how people say barely.

The car needs to get some miles on it before it feels stronger, which is similar to what I experienced when the Mach was breaking in. Between 3000 and 5000 RPM, they feel close. After 5000 RPM, the Mach keeps going.

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Originally Posted by 65fastback2+2

I could barely take my eyes off the shaker missing hood.

Yeah, there's nothing like that Mach shaker to liven up the front view.

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Originally Posted by 65fastback2+2

Ride was smoother and quieter. Regular fuel would be nice. Heated seats

Yes, yes, yes, yes

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Originally Posted by 65fastback2+2

Thats my quick review on the s197's.

Thanks...they are nice cars. Like all performance Mustangs, they could use more power stock

However, having 300hp on 87 octane is nice.

Berzerk · 02-28-2007, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 65fastback2+2

$29950 for a GT and $30800 for a GT/CS. I liked the stripes...MUCH better wheels...the front facia was very nice along with the rear facia...there was no hood scoop tho, but it did have the side scoops....I thought it was worth $850

Must have been a LOADED GT to have a sticker of $29,950.
And the GT/CS never did anything for me, but i do like the fascias.

65fastback2+2 · 02-28-2007, 10:19 PM

Well I had 3 people that normally ride in my mach with me and they stuff themselves in the s197 and they told me it was smaller in the back seat....I dont typically leave the driver seat

Azure Blurr · 02-28-2007, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 65fastback2+2

no im not getting rid of the mach, i just had some time to waste and figured why not.

I actually test drove a GT/CS....and with there only being like $700 between stickers, i dunno why anyone would get a regular GT.

Inside was ok...it felt cheaper than the mach though...all the plastic felt cheaper. Center console was too high around the shifter. Back seat area was smaller. Car was ALOT slower than the mach...i dunno how people say barely. I could barely take my eyes off the shaker missing hood.

Ride was smoother and quieter. Regular fuel would be nice. Heated seats

Thats my quick review on the s197's.

I thought a couple of days ago you where getting rid of the Mach and some VW crap, Now you're test driving new ****! Kids and their .......... awww screw it, they don't listen!

Mark04Mach1 · 02-28-2007, 10:33 PM

yea they r cool, i test drove 2 of them at work

Tony Alonso · 02-28-2007, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 65fastback2+2

Well I had 3 people that normally ride in my mach with me and they stuff themselves in the s197 and they told me it was smaller in the back seat....I dont typically leave the driver seat

Three is definitely pushing it in either car, but the back seats in the S197 are more scalloped and oriented for two people. There is less of division between the seats in the SN-95.

Leg room-wise, the S197 definitely has more for two people

65fastback2+2 · 02-28-2007, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AZURE GIRL

I thought a couple of days ago you where getting rid of the Mach and some VW crap, Now you're test driving new ****! Kids and their .......... awww screw it, they don't listen!

uh....original post said I just test drove it for fun...currently im working on getting rid of the VW crap and getting a 5 hour a week or so part-time job. So...apparantly...I did listen.

matab14 · 02-28-2007, 11:57 PM

There is a new 07 White GT/CS sittin at the dealer here in town and I must say its looks rather sharp. I like the fornt end on them alot more and they just have more of that......"what was that look" to them.....which is what I miss so much about the mach....

falcongtho3 · 03-01-2007, 07:27 AM

I really like the GT/CS. So few people even know what they are (kinda like the MAch was 4 years ago), that it really catches them off guard. In adiditon to the lower air dam, check out the rear skirt, very cool. The hood scoop is not standard, but part of the GT apperance package and available on non-GT/CS's as well. The Shelby side scoops are standard also. I also like the two tone interior, and the standard polished wheels are the same as the white Shlby GTs. Remember,the original GT/CS was a standard coupe (no conv. back then) with many Shelby parts to set it apart.

TX MACH 1 · 03-01-2007, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 65fastback2+2

Well I had 3 people that normally ride in my mach with me and they stuff themselves in the s197 and they told me it was smaller in the back seat

dammit!
Thanks for the info. I'm currently looking into the s197's (since I no longer have the mach) and every little review helps

Tony Alonso · 03-01-2007, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TX MACH 1

dammit!
Thanks for the info. I'm currently looking into the s197's (since I no longer have the mach) and every little review helps

Just don't put 3 people in the back and you will be fine. That babyseat and one other rear seat passenger will fit!

XMACHX1 · 03-01-2007, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TX MACH 1

dammit!
Thanks for the info. I'm currently looking into the s197's (since I no longer have the mach) and every little review helps

This little review my help out.
http://www.mach1registry.org/forums/...ad.php?t=54714

I've since put about 2800 miles on the '06 and I am still happy with my decision. I'm also loving the 5yr/60,000 mile warranty I got for free. I was really losing my confindence in the Mach as the warranty was nearing it's end. The Borla axle-back kit sounds great on the '06 as well.

Uloset · 03-01-2007, 10:12 AM

I think the s197's are probably a better everyday drive little more comfortable take regular and still have some get up and go. If you want performance stick with the mach it will walk all over the s197's even in handling. The only thing that new gt's have over our car is they come with a 2 1/2 inch exhaust system. I only wish the mach's had come with that setup would have easily boosted the power up an other 15 hp. Truthfully as nice as the 3 valves are I often think if the 2 1/2 inch pipe was used on an all aluminum 2v with the heads reworked just a little and the compression bumped to 9.8:1 it could have easily made 290hp 315tq on regular. Plus it would be cheaper to produce and would have kept the weight down a little as well.

VoodooMACH · 03-01-2007, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 65fastback2+2

no im not getting rid of the mach, i just had some time to waste and figured why not.

I actually test drove a GT/CS....and with there only being like $700 between stickers, i dunno why anyone would get a regular GT.

Inside was ok...it felt cheaper than the mach though...all the plastic felt cheaper. Center console was too high around the shifter. Back seat area was smaller. Car was ALOT slower than the mach...i dunno how people say barely. I could barely take my eyes off the shaker missing hood.

Ride was smoother and quieter. Regular fuel would be nice. Heated seats

Thats my quick review on the s197's.

...just when I thought all cheap plastics were the same... there comes... an even cheaper plastic.

TX MACH 1 · 03-01-2007, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by XMACHX1

This little review my help out.
http://www.mach1registry.org/forums/...ad.php?t=54714

I've since put about 2800 miles on the '06 and I am still happy with my decision. I'm also loving the 5yr/60,000 mile warranty I got for free. I was really losing my confindence in the Mach as the warranty was nearing it's end. The Borla axle-back kit sounds great on the '06 as well.

Thanks

That helps a lot!!

TJ4Cam · 03-01-2007, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by VoodooMACH

...just when I thought all cheap plastics were the same... there comes... an even cheaper plastic.

No, the cheapest and sh*ttiest plastic you will ever find in an automobile resides in the C4 Corvettes...absolutely awful. I had 3 of those rattle traps at diff times in my life.

TX MACH 1 · 03-01-2007, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TJ4Cam

No, the cheapest and sh*ttiest plastic you will ever find in an automobile resides in the C4 Corvettes...absolutely awful. I had 3 of those rattle traps at diff times in my life.

I have to say the crap I have in the TBSS is pretty horrible...Don't touch it or it'll turn white.

Worst interior I've EVER had.

02-28-2007, 09:45 PM	#1
65fastback2+2 Too many cars to mod Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 6,945	test drove an 07 today no im not getting rid of the mach, i just had some time to waste and figured why not. I actually test drove a GT/CS....and with there only being like $700 between stickers, i dunno why anyone would get a regular GT. Inside was ok...it felt cheaper than the mach though...all the plastic felt cheaper. Center console was too high around the shifter. Back seat area was smaller. Car was ALOT slower than the mach...i dunno how people say barely. I could barely take my eyes off the shaker missing hood. Ride was smoother and quieter. Regular fuel would be nice. Heated seats Thats my quick review on the s197's. __________________ Current Rides: 2011 Ford Fusion 2003 MG Terminator, 2.3 whipple Previous Rides: 2003 DSG Lightning, 486/586, 12.09@111.25 2007 F150 Lariat 4wd Screw 2004 OW Mach 1, auto, 1 of 179 2003 DSG Mach 1, 574 rwhp / 528 rwtq 2003 DSG Mach 1, 13.1 @ 109.1 1988 Mustang GT, stock 1967 TB Coupe, project 1965 Fastback 2+2, A-code

02-28-2007, 09:55 PM	#3
jbrad88 Original Owner Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,172	Re: test drove an 07 today I spent a little more seat time today in my friends 06 now that he has added the motorsport "K" springs. I have always liked the s197. It is a fun car to drive, but it is not the Mach. I will say it handles exceptionally well. It is not as fast as the Mach, but I have enough bolt-ons to make the stock difference that much more noticeable. I actually liked the ride of the mach better, and I like our cable activated clutch too. It is noticeably heavier than the new cars... here is a link to the Corral where he has his car... it is the wildfire 06 under sig JEFFO... http://www.corral.net/forums/showthr...28#post6689928 __________________ JB 03 Torch Red Mach 1 21 FJG Mach 1 Stainless Steel Systems Adrenaline Series BBK long tube headers catted x pipe 18x9 18x10- Solid Gloss Black FR5's Nitto 555 g2 275/35r18's 285/35r18 MGW Shifter With Mach1 Shift Knob 4.10's & 31 spline Mosers and 31 Spline Posi Steeda Sport Springs Tokiko Illuminas J@M weight Jacker LCA's J@M Rear UCA's J@M Braided steel brake lines Eibach Sway Bars

02-28-2007, 10:01 PM	#5
Dfanucci Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Just south of Sanity Posts: 65	Re: test drove an 07 today Don't know where you got a 700 difference. Must be an option thing, because my GT stickered 3,500 less than the GT/CS and there is no way 2 tone leather, stripes and a functionless hood scoop justify that.... __________________ 03 Mach1 - Sold 02/16/07 but not forgotten 07 GT - Just getting to know her.

02-28-2007, 10:04 PM	#6
jbrad88 Original Owner Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,172	Re: test drove an 07 today The mach uses the cable as all fox-based chassis cars do. The s197's use the hydraulic assist. __________________ JB 03 Torch Red Mach 1 21 FJG Mach 1 Stainless Steel Systems Adrenaline Series BBK long tube headers catted x pipe 18x9 18x10- Solid Gloss Black FR5's Nitto 555 g2 275/35r18's 285/35r18 MGW Shifter With Mach1 Shift Knob 4.10's & 31 spline Mosers and 31 Spline Posi Steeda Sport Springs Tokiko Illuminas J@M weight Jacker LCA's J@M Rear UCA's J@M Braided steel brake lines Eibach Sway Bars

02-28-2007, 10:19 PM	#11
65fastback2+2 Too many cars to mod Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 6,945	Re: test drove an 07 today Well I had 3 people that normally ride in my mach with me and they stuff themselves in the s197 and they told me it was smaller in the back seat....I dont typically leave the driver seat __________________ Current Rides: 2011 Ford Fusion 2003 MG Terminator, 2.3 whipple Previous Rides: 2003 DSG Lightning, 486/586, 12.09@111.25 2007 F150 Lariat 4wd Screw 2004 OW Mach 1, auto, 1 of 179 2003 DSG Mach 1, 574 rwhp / 528 rwtq 2003 DSG Mach 1, 13.1 @ 109.1 1988 Mustang GT, stock 1967 TB Coupe, project 1965 Fastback 2+2, A-code

02-28-2007, 10:33 PM	#13
Mark04Mach1 No mames.... Join Date: May 2006 Location: Del Rio, Texas Posts: 2,449	Re: test drove an 07 today yea they r cool, i test drove 2 of them at work __________________ sold all my cars..

02-28-2007, 11:57 PM	#16
matab14 pop up and do less.... Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Central IL Posts: 1,122	Re: test drove an 07 today There is a new 07 White GT/CS sittin at the dealer here in town and I must say its looks rather sharp. I like the fornt end on them alot more and they just have more of that......"what was that look" to them.....which is what I miss so much about the mach.... __________________ ~Matt 2006 F150 SUPERCREW XLT 4X4 2.5" Lift 18x9 Moto Metal 951 Wheels 325/60/18 Nitto Grappelers SOLD 2004 Comepition Orange 5 Speed w/ IUP DOB: JAN 23 2004

03-01-2007, 07:27 AM	#17
falcongtho3 Moderating at Mach 1 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, La. Posts: 16,278	Re: test drove an 07 today I really like the GT/CS. So few people even know what they are (kinda like the MAch was 4 years ago), that it really catches them off guard. In adiditon to the lower air dam, check out the rear skirt, very cool. The hood scoop is not standard, but part of the GT apperance package and available on non-GT/CS's as well. The Shelby side scoops are standard also. I also like the two tone interior, and the standard polished wheels are the same as the white Shlby GTs. Remember,the original GT/CS was a standard coupe (no conv. back then) with many Shelby parts to set it apart. __________________ Krewe de la Mach Rouge #340804 13th Mach 1 built 11/07/02 Build Date 12/13/02 Delivery

03-01-2007, 10:12 AM	#21
Uloset Fastest Mach 1 Somewhere Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Trenton, NJ Posts: 1,302	Re: test drove an 07 today I think the s197's are probably a better everyday drive little more comfortable take regular and still have some get up and go. If you want performance stick with the mach it will walk all over the s197's even in handling. The only thing that new gt's have over our car is they come with a 2 1/2 inch exhaust system. I only wish the mach's had come with that setup would have easily boosted the power up an other 15 hp. Truthfully as nice as the 3 valves are I often think if the 2 1/2 inch pipe was used on an all aluminum 2v with the heads reworked just a little and the compression bumped to 9.8:1 it could have easily made 290hp 315tq on regular. Plus it would be cheaper to produce and would have kept the weight down a little as well. __________________ "It is not necessary to understand things in order to argue about them" I have a problem every time I pull up to some ricer a strange buzzing noise comes from behind me, any clue what it could be?

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