Cams WITH nitro boost - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

dontmockthemach · 11-19-2006, 09:56 PM

Anyone running this setup? I am looking to hit the max on stock bottom end(450rwhp) and didnt know what my best bet would be? I really wanna have a quicker NA car, which is the reasoning for the cams, and the nitrous is perfect for gas milage/limited track time. Opinions?

RH04 · 11-19-2006, 10:14 PM

I have stage 3 cams and NX 150 on my mach with all the usual bolt-ons on the stock bottom end and it runs great. I would say that it is about maxed out though. Make sure you get a good tune.

dontmockthemach · 11-19-2006, 10:17 PM

you like the cams on na? what kinda power? I have heard good things about the crowers, but wasnt too sure. Mines a DD

RH04 · 11-19-2006, 10:22 PM

The cams NA are great at high rpm. If i had it to do over again i would go with no more than stage 2 if you are not going to do any porting to the heads or intake. I have read that stage 2's dont take away from the low end as bad. The 410's are a must for the cams. JMO
My car made 365hp and 343tq NA.

corysmach1 · 11-19-2006, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RH04

The cams NA are great at high rpm. If i had it to do over again i would go with no more than stage 2 if you are not going to do any porting to the heads or intake. I have read that stage 2's dont take away from the low end as bad. The 410's are a must for the cams. JMO
My car made 365hp and 343tq NA.

Those are great numbers. What did it make on spray?

RH04 · 11-19-2006, 11:05 PM

It hasnt been dynoed with the NX 150 yet but with the compucar kit with the 125hp jets it made 455hp 480tq.

instantmassege · 11-20-2006, 08:40 AM

wow those are great numbers.

corysmach1 · 11-20-2006, 05:02 PM

Man I want these cams so bad.

RH04 · 11-21-2006, 08:25 AM

Seems like with the cams the mach loves the nitrous even more!

corysmach1 · 11-21-2006, 01:53 PM

Thats why I want Crower Stage 3's they make great power up top, and Nitrous makes gobs of torque, I just think those two together would be a monster on the street.

04azuremach · 11-21-2006, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by corysmach1

Thats why I want Crower Stage 3's they make great power up top, and Nitrous makes gobs of torque, I just think those two together would be a monster on the street.

A little birdy told me Comp cams are better

VIPERBLUELX · 11-21-2006, 04:47 PM

I've heard some nightmare stories about Crowers for 4V's. I think John Mihovich even had an article in MMFF about how far off some of them are.

RH04 · 11-21-2006, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by VIPERBLUELX

I've heard some nightmare stories about Crowers for 4V's. I think John Mihovich even had an article in MMFF about how far off some of them are.

I dont doubt that a bit I guess I just got lucky. So far that is.

corysmach1 · 11-21-2006, 11:53 PM

Does Comp make Cams just like the Crowers with the same lift and duration etc. I mean i want a lot of power but man they just sound amazing at idle.

RH04 · 11-22-2006, 12:00 AM

I bought my cams for the sound more than power at the time it sounded like a good idea but now i would go more for power/driveability. just my .02

corysmach1 · 11-22-2006, 12:40 PM

How is ur drivability? They do sound AMAZING. I know u dynoed 365rwhp but what were ur numbers before the cams?

04azuremach · 11-22-2006, 01:29 PM

Here's my car with comp cams:

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/d...15c13be092.htm

I love the sound!

As far as cam specs go, you're looking at the wrong spec as far as aggressiveness. the difference of a .450 lift and .500 lift is tiny. It's the duration that makes the biggest difference. My comp cams have a slightly smaller lift than the crowers, mine are .475 and I think crowers is .483, but the duration is 234/232 @ .050.

11-19-2006, 09:56 PM	#1
dontmockthemach Black Pearl Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 765	Cams WITH nitro boost Anyone running this setup? I am looking to hit the max on stock bottom end(450rwhp) and didnt know what my best bet would be? I really wanna have a quicker NA car, which is the reasoning for the cams, and the nitrous is perfect for gas milage/limited track time. Opinions? __________________ *Procharged Black 03*

11-19-2006, 10:14 PM	#2
RH04 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: stl,mo Posts: 34	Re: Cams WITH nitro boost I have stage 3 cams and NX 150 on my mach with all the usual bolt-ons on the stock bottom end and it runs great. I would say that it is about maxed out though. Make sure you get a good tune. __________________ 2004 Mach 1 Crower Stage 3 cams Valve Springs and Retainers Nx wet kit Eaton Posi 4:10's 31 Spline Axles D&D K-Member Steeda Upper and lowers BBK Longtubes BBK OR H-pipe Lightning Mass Air PHP Intake Spacer Centerforce Dual Friction clutch

11-19-2006, 10:17 PM	#3
dontmockthemach Black Pearl Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 765	Re: Cams WITH nitro boost you like the cams on na? what kinda power? I have heard good things about the crowers, but wasnt too sure. Mines a DD __________________ *Procharged Black 03*

11-19-2006, 10:22 PM	#4
RH04 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: stl,mo Posts: 34	Re: Cams WITH nitro boost The cams NA are great at high rpm. If i had it to do over again i would go with no more than stage 2 if you are not going to do any porting to the heads or intake. I have read that stage 2's dont take away from the low end as bad. The 410's are a must for the cams. JMO My car made 365hp and 343tq NA. __________________ 2004 Mach 1 Crower Stage 3 cams Valve Springs and Retainers Nx wet kit Eaton Posi 4:10's 31 Spline Axles D&D K-Member Steeda Upper and lowers BBK Longtubes BBK OR H-pipe Lightning Mass Air PHP Intake Spacer Centerforce Dual Friction clutch

11-19-2006, 11:05 PM	#6
RH04 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: stl,mo Posts: 34	Re: Cams WITH nitro boost It hasnt been dynoed with the NX 150 yet but with the compucar kit with the 125hp jets it made 455hp 480tq. __________________ 2004 Mach 1 Crower Stage 3 cams Valve Springs and Retainers Nx wet kit Eaton Posi 4:10's 31 Spline Axles D&D K-Member Steeda Upper and lowers BBK Longtubes BBK OR H-pipe Lightning Mass Air PHP Intake Spacer Centerforce Dual Friction clutch

11-20-2006, 08:40 AM	#7
instantmassege LS WHAT? Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Stoughton, MA Posts: 685	Re: Cams WITH nitro boost wow those are great numbers. __________________ 03 Mach1 exhaust, intake, tune. 12.9@109 2.051 60'

11-20-2006, 05:02 PM	#8
corysmach1 Guest Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Circleville ohio Posts: 618	Re: Cams WITH nitro boost Man I want these cams so bad.

11-21-2006, 08:25 AM	#9
RH04 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: stl,mo Posts: 34	Re: Cams WITH nitro boost Seems like with the cams the mach loves the nitrous even more! __________________ 2004 Mach 1 Crower Stage 3 cams Valve Springs and Retainers Nx wet kit Eaton Posi 4:10's 31 Spline Axles D&D K-Member Steeda Upper and lowers BBK Longtubes BBK OR H-pipe Lightning Mass Air PHP Intake Spacer Centerforce Dual Friction clutch

11-21-2006, 01:53 PM	#10
corysmach1 Guest Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Circleville ohio Posts: 618	Re: Cams WITH nitro boost Thats why I want Crower Stage 3's they make great power up top, and Nitrous makes gobs of torque, I just think those two together would be a monster on the street.

11-21-2006, 04:47 PM	#12
VIPERBLUELX Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 553	Re: Cams WITH nitro boost I've heard some nightmare stories about Crowers for 4V's. I think John Mihovich even had an article in MMFF about how far off some of them are. __________________ 98 Cobra 468rwhp/450rwtq stock motor

11-21-2006, 11:53 PM	#14
corysmach1 Guest Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Circleville ohio Posts: 618	Re: Cams WITH nitro boost Does Comp make Cams just like the Crowers with the same lift and duration etc. I mean i want a lot of power but man they just sound amazing at idle.

11-22-2006, 12:00 AM	#15
RH04 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: stl,mo Posts: 34	Re: Cams WITH nitro boost I bought my cams for the sound more than power at the time it sounded like a good idea but now i would go more for power/driveability. just my .02 __________________ 2004 Mach 1 Crower Stage 3 cams Valve Springs and Retainers Nx wet kit Eaton Posi 4:10's 31 Spline Axles D&D K-Member Steeda Upper and lowers BBK Longtubes BBK OR H-pipe Lightning Mass Air PHP Intake Spacer Centerforce Dual Friction clutch

11-22-2006, 12:40 PM	#16
corysmach1 Guest Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Circleville ohio Posts: 618	Re: Cams WITH nitro boost How is ur drivability? They do sound AMAZING. I know u dynoed 365rwhp but what were ur numbers before the cams?

11-22-2006, 01:29 PM	#17
04azuremach Loud, fast and fun Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Owning Ricers at MIR Posts: 7,864	Re: Cams WITH nitro boost Here's my car with comp cams: http://videos.streetfire.net/video/d...15c13be092.htm I love the sound! As far as cam specs go, you're looking at the wrong spec as far as aggressiveness. the difference of a .450 lift and .500 lift is tiny. It's the duration that makes the biggest difference. My comp cams have a slightly smaller lift than the crowers, mine are .475 and I think crowers is .483, but the duration is 234/232 @ .050.

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