crower st 3 - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

Iceman · 05-26-2006, 06:53 PM

im really thinkin about gettin the crower st 3 cams but i still wanna know more about them for i spend the money. what are all the pro and cons about the stage 3 cams. my car is mainly a street car but i dont drive it much. ie i leave the slicks and skinnies on it 80% of the time. what will the cams be like on the highway ect do i need bigger injectors cause im already at 325 rwhp on stock injector will the stock injectors be pegged out with them. and ill be runnin a stock intake manifold and tb.what kind of gains will i see with the stock manifold and TB will i have to raise my revlimiter, why is there no substanial torque gains and really on hp gains, how will that affect it. so please any and all info on them is appreciated

04azuremach · 05-26-2006, 07:49 PM

You will be fine with the stock fuel system. All other things I wouldn't worry about either. Cams, more than anything, just move the power band rather than raise it dramatically. The torque curve is moved to the right, thus making the peak HP higher and raising your shift points as well.

Iceman · 05-30-2006, 04:06 AM

what do u think i would be shifting at with the st3 cams?

black_mach_03 · 05-30-2006, 10:39 AM

I shift at 7000 rpm. the cams will pull futher then that but your intake wont. you'll be making peak hp at about 6200-6400 rpm, but these cams will go to 7500 plus. The cams will make more power then stock but you wont be able to take full advantage of them until you get an short runner intake or FR500.

Iceman · 05-30-2006, 05:46 PM

how much power over stock will i make with the stock intake

black_mach_03 · 05-30-2006, 08:59 PM

you should see anywhere between a 25 to up to a 40 rwhp from just the cams. I would atleast port the stock lower if you going to keep it. orange blast ported intakes im telling you :ORANGE:

Iceman · 05-31-2006, 07:50 PM

how hard would it be to remove the intake?

G-townMACH · 05-31-2006, 08:42 PM

dude dont use stage 3's for street use. If anything, use some crower stage 2's or one of the XE sets from COMP. Stage 3's on the street will be absolutely no fun to drive. Yeah it will make a hardcore lope and everyone will be like ahhh thats cool, but you'd need 4.56's or lower just to mosey around the block. Get stage 2's, 4.10's, and port your intake and hell if you got the $$, why not a 5 angle (5-axis) valve job.

Iceman · 05-31-2006, 10:29 PM

i think id be alright with 4:30 as thats what i got now. black mach and another guy on here run the stage 3 cams withou any problem on the street from what ive heard you just cant ride around at lower than 1500 rpm, and your comp has to relearn how to run the a/c cause it will stall it out on idle

Iceman · 05-31-2006, 10:30 PM

not sure if im right about the a/c thing

05-26-2006, 06:53 PM	#1
Iceman So. Florida Machin Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fort Pierce , FL Posts: 1,205	crower st 3 im really thinkin about gettin the crower st 3 cams but i still wanna know more about them for i spend the money. what are all the pro and cons about the stage 3 cams. my car is mainly a street car but i dont drive it much. ie i leave the slicks and skinnies on it 80% of the time. what will the cams be like on the highway ect do i need bigger injectors cause im already at 325 rwhp on stock injector will the stock injectors be pegged out with them. and ill be runnin a stock intake manifold and tb.what kind of gains will i see with the stock manifold and TB will i have to raise my revlimiter, why is there no substanial torque gains and really on hp gains, how will that affect it. so please any and all info on them is appreciated __________________ 03 oxford white mach Boss 330 short block procharger , cams ect... 666.4rwhp 558 rwtq its got all the goodies! "REAL STREET PERFORMANCE" For all your mustang performance needs Orlando ,Florida (407) 695 0699

05-26-2006, 07:49 PM	#2
04azuremach Loud, fast and fun Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Owning Ricers at MIR Posts: 7,864	Re: crower st 3 You will be fine with the stock fuel system. All other things I wouldn't worry about either. Cams, more than anything, just move the power band rather than raise it dramatically. The torque curve is moved to the right, thus making the peak HP higher and raising your shift points as well.

05-30-2006, 04:06 AM	#3
Iceman So. Florida Machin Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fort Pierce , FL Posts: 1,205	Re: crower st 3 what do u think i would be shifting at with the st3 cams? __________________ 03 oxford white mach Boss 330 short block procharger , cams ect... 666.4rwhp 558 rwtq its got all the goodies! "REAL STREET PERFORMANCE" For all your mustang performance needs Orlando ,Florida (407) 695 0699

05-30-2006, 10:39 AM	#4
black_mach_03 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 432	Re: crower st 3 I shift at 7000 rpm. the cams will pull futher then that but your intake wont. you'll be making peak hp at about 6200-6400 rpm, but these cams will go to 7500 plus. The cams will make more power then stock but you wont be able to take full advantage of them until you get an short runner intake or FR500. __________________ BONE STOCK

05-30-2006, 05:46 PM	#5
Iceman So. Florida Machin Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fort Pierce , FL Posts: 1,205	Re: crower st 3 how much power over stock will i make with the stock intake __________________ 03 oxford white mach Boss 330 short block procharger , cams ect... 666.4rwhp 558 rwtq its got all the goodies! "REAL STREET PERFORMANCE" For all your mustang performance needs Orlando ,Florida (407) 695 0699

05-30-2006, 08:59 PM	#6
black_mach_03 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 432	Re: crower st 3 you should see anywhere between a 25 to up to a 40 rwhp from just the cams. I would atleast port the stock lower if you going to keep it. orange blast ported intakes im telling you :ORANGE: __________________ BONE STOCK

05-31-2006, 07:50 PM	#7
Iceman So. Florida Machin Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fort Pierce , FL Posts: 1,205	Re: crower st 3 how hard would it be to remove the intake? __________________ 03 oxford white mach Boss 330 short block procharger , cams ect... 666.4rwhp 558 rwtq its got all the goodies! "REAL STREET PERFORMANCE" For all your mustang performance needs Orlando ,Florida (407) 695 0699

05-31-2006, 08:42 PM	#8
G-townMACH Drinks Gas, Hauls a$$ Join Date: May 2004 Location: somewhere in Texas Posts: 635	Re: crower st 3 dude dont use stage 3's for street use. If anything, use some crower stage 2's or one of the XE sets from COMP. Stage 3's on the street will be absolutely no fun to drive. Yeah it will make a hardcore lope and everyone will be like ahhh thats cool, but you'd need 4.56's or lower just to mosey around the block. Get stage 2's, 4.10's, and port your intake and hell if you got the $$, why not a 5 angle (5-axis) valve job. __________________ 2004 Mach 1, 5-speed, Black Mods: Headers...O/R H...Flows...suspension...wheels...swishahouse in stereo. "Life is a big, smoky burnout!"

05-31-2006, 10:29 PM	#9
Iceman So. Florida Machin Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fort Pierce , FL Posts: 1,205	Re: crower st 3 i think id be alright with 4:30 as thats what i got now. black mach and another guy on here run the stage 3 cams withou any problem on the street from what ive heard you just cant ride around at lower than 1500 rpm, and your comp has to relearn how to run the a/c cause it will stall it out on idle __________________ 03 oxford white mach Boss 330 short block procharger , cams ect... 666.4rwhp 558 rwtq its got all the goodies! "REAL STREET PERFORMANCE" For all your mustang performance needs Orlando ,Florida (407) 695 0699

05-31-2006, 10:30 PM	#10
Iceman So. Florida Machin Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fort Pierce , FL Posts: 1,205	Re: crower st 3 not sure if im right about the a/c thing __________________ 03 oxford white mach Boss 330 short block procharger , cams ect... 666.4rwhp 558 rwtq its got all the goodies! "REAL STREET PERFORMANCE" For all your mustang performance needs Orlando ,Florida (407) 695 0699

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