'69 mach 1 vs '03/'04 mach 1

[andres1105]

which one do you guys think is better?

[orangemachracer]

the new one would smoke the old one easily no contest that should anwer all

[orangemachracer]

not to mention better colors, suspension ,interior, engine do i have to go on

[grimreefer]

I WANT BOTH! halfway there

[San Pedro Mach]

Daily driver, taking long trips, running errands, etc. = '03/'04 Mach 1

Cruising the coast on a sunny week-end afternoon = '69 Mach 1 (although I'd rather have a '70...and make it with a 351C-4V & 4spd close-ratio Toploader )

[Jim H.]

Originally Posted by orangemachracer

the new one would smoke the old one easily no contest that should anwer all

Depends on if you're talking about a 351ci or 428ci SCJ.
I think the 428 SCJ might take a stock Mach but not with the stock tires. I believe it would be close. But even if the 03/04 did win and say it beat the 69 by 2 or 3 tenths that's not much for having 34 years worth of technological improvements behind it.

[orangemachracer]

it is much 428 to a 281 id say thats a vast improvement wouldnt you???????

[orangemachracer]

i doubt the 428 mach could run a 13 in the quarter stock back in the day.

[orangemachracer]

beautiful car but not the mach of today.i understand you have both and not so long ago i perferred older muscle cars to newer ones until i drove newer technology and realized the potential and the extreme difference in comparing both.ofcourse like you said there is a big gap in age but still technology has come a long way, here it is again for you 428=281 enough on that

[Jim H.]

Originally Posted by orangemachracer

i doubt the 428 mach could run a 13 in the quarter stock back in the day.

I thought I read something a long time ago about a 428 that they took to the strip and threw some tires on it and it did bust some 13's. I could be mistaken. Maybe someone else has some figures.
Be that as it may they're both great cars and I'll admit the 281 is incredible in some nice cool weather.

[ponygt65]

Beautiful cars, used for 2 different reasons, IMO.

orangemachracer - if you only cared about speed, why not have a cobra?

I dont' look at the mach for only speed. Although it is fast bone stock. I love the old stangs, so it is much more than that. My wife wanted a 69 with a 428 cobra jet R-code, but she wanted the "new technology" so she went crazy when the new one came out. Ones more for show, one is more for go. That's just my opinion though. SO, I am not voting.

[andres1105]

Originally Posted by ponygt65

Beautiful cars, used for 2 different reasons, IMO.

orangemachracer - if you only cared about speed, why not have a cobra?

I dont' look at the mach for only speed. Although it is fast bone stock. I love the old stangs, so it is much more than that. My wife wanted a 69 with a 428 cobra jet R-code, but she wanted the "new technology" so she went crazy when the new one came out. Ones more for show, one is more for go. That's just my opinion though. SO, I am not voting.

so which one do you think is more show? and which one is more go?

[Bill Hamilton]

I owned a 1970 428SCJ Mustang years ago and today own a 1970 351C-4V along with my 2003 Mach 1. If you take the “emotions” out of it and just think of them as cars, there is no choice. The newer Mach’s are better in every compartment stock for stock. I love my classic Mustangs but in power, comfort, and fuel economy…..I’m sorry but they come in 2nd place.

However when I’m driving my newer Mach; people see it as just a “car” or fancy Mustang, but when I’m driving my old Mach, people wave, blow their horn, give my thumbs up, and smile.

[E-MACH]

I've always been a sucker for beautiful ladies and beautiful cars. I've owned the '65 2+2 Fastback (289), '67 Shelby GT 500, '69 Mach 1 (351), '72 Mach 1 (351), and the '04 Mach 1. Each one holds a special place in my heart, but the '69 stole my heart when I was still playing with Hot Wheels cars, and owning it when coming of age was something special. Like someone else said, no one turns their head to look at my '04, but roll by in a classic...

[MACH & ROLL]

If the question was "which would I rather have" my answer would have been different. With the amount of miles I put on the short comings of a '69 wouldn't bother me at all!

[ponygt65]

Originally Posted by andres1105

so which one do you think is more show? and which one is more go?

IMO - the 69 for show, the 04 for go.

For the main reason of Car "shows". I know you can see new cars at shows, but the classics are more special. But that is my opinion. I love both. Which is why I thank the powers that be every day that my wife and I own our dream cars.

[streakn]

Originally Posted by grimreefer

I WANT BOTH! halfway there

Got both...although the 69 isn't running yet.

[orangemachracer]

Originally Posted by ponygt65

Beautiful cars, used for 2 different reasons, IMO.

orangemachracer - if you only cared about speed, why not have a cobra?

I dont' look at the mach for only speed. Although it is fast bone stock. I love the old stangs, so it is much more than that. My wife wanted a 69 with a 428 cobra jet R-code, but she wanted the "new technology" so she went crazy when the new one came out. Ones more for show, one is more for go. That's just my opinion though. SO, I am not voting.

well pony gt i did consider trading in the mach for an 03 cobra about 3 weeks ago but i just couldnt work up the nerve to let such a beautiful car go for one that is plain jane just for speed, but when i drove the cobra ,compared to the mach the cobra is 10 times a better car, just not from the outside.and thats why i couldnt do it.the old machs are for show,but put up against the newer ones they dont stand a chance.its like comparing the cobra to a gt

[orangemachracer]

Originally Posted by E-MACH

I've always been a sucker for beautiful ladies and beautiful cars. I've owned the '65 2+2 Fastback (289), '67 Shelby GT 500, '69 Mach 1 (351), '72 Mach 1 (351), and the '04 Mach 1. Each one holds a special place in my heart, but the '69 stole my heart when I was still playing with Hot Wheels cars, and owning it when coming of age was something special. Like someone else said, no one turns their head to look at my '04, but roll by in a classic...

i get compliments on my 04 all the time from people in fact i pulled into a bank just today and some guy comes up to me and says hey man you got a really nice ride.i get it all the time from people at shows everywhere maybe yours is plain thats why.put on a set of deep dish black bullitts and the compliments on your mach tha t you receive will blow your mind

[Mach&Roll]

The 04 is just all the way better mileage and performance wise.

[mopacmach]

Originally Posted by andres1105

which one do you guys think is better?

Been there, done that....Without the ability to travel in time, the entire concept of comparing the two is a giant oxymoron. IF! you could bring a NEW 69/70 428CobraJet w/shaker to our time, it would truly be a magnet for "oohs & aahs". IF! you could take one of our 03/03 Machs back to 69/70 it would stand out and get the same "oohs & aahs" back then....1/4 mile performance, as always, depended on drivers, traction, mods, and state of tune. Back in the day, a CobraJet w/headers, slicks & 4.10s and good driver, could crack into the 12's, just like our Mach's today.

[andres1105]

ok, so what if we changed the question to....."Which car would you PREFER

[streakn]

Originally Posted by andres1105

ok, so what if we changed the question to....."Which car would you PREFER

I have love for both.I couldn't give a definate answer for one or the other.

[stampde]

Originally Posted by orangemachracer

i doubt the 428 mach could run a 13 in the quarter stock back in the day.

My best friend owns a 69, 428cj car,stock except the intake and carb. It ran a 13.65 on drag radials at 105 mph...... it has an Edelbrock intake and a smaller tahn stock carb. I believe stock they had a 735cfm he's running a 650 double pumper....

[NUMACHI]

I also own both of these great cars and it is IMPOSSIBLE to compare them. If you only wanted pure speed then the '03/'04 would win...BUT if you only wanted speed you wouldn't buy the mach, you would get something faster. I feel the '69 Mach's have that perfect mix of speed and style that allow them to take the crown. The looks and comments that you get from driving a classic Mach is far and away better then those feelings that come from driving the new machs. Unless you have driven a '69 Mach around town today, then you have NO IDEA of the feeling that I am talking about.