What would you do?? - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

Hpstang · 07-29-2015, 11:12 AM

I have been going back and forth about the build direction for my car. I have thought about nitrous with all the bells and whistles, pro charger, or just plain all motor.

What I want is something that's going to be reliable and work as it should. I'm looking for a mid to high 11 (at least very low 12's)street car. What route would you take? If I go pro charger it will be a few years before I can pony up the money for the whole kit

DSG2003Mach1 · 07-29-2015, 12:34 PM

the all motor route tends to be expensive on these cars

whats already done to the car and what kinda budget?

nitrous gears and sticky tires is probably the cheapest path. Only downsides being that power isnt always available and bottle refills add up depending on how much track time you have

01yellerCobra · 07-29-2015, 12:39 PM

I'm all about the boost. Doesn't take a ton of head work and big cams to make good power. And the power is always available.

Hpstang · 07-29-2015, 02:08 PM

At the current moment I have borla stingers cat back, k&n drop in.
On order mac pro chamber off road mid pipe, mgw shifter, mm subframe full length, upr torque box upper and lower kit. Dyno tune. This is all stage 1 then it's onto the direction I need to go to get where I want to be

TKat13 · 07-29-2015, 02:28 PM

Boost it or drop a coyote in it.

DSG2003Mach1 · 07-29-2015, 03:09 PM

not sure what the budget it is but have you priced it out snagging a used progarger kit from one of the forums? I would think you could get up and running on one for around 5k if you hunt the classified sections of various forums (assuming you can handle all the install stuff yourself)

mach1metalhead · 07-29-2015, 04:34 PM

Turbo. Might be a bit more pricey to start, but that's where I'm potentially headed...

mach18604 · 07-29-2015, 05:44 PM

Great Topic.. Youre not alone.. haha

littlemags · 07-29-2015, 05:51 PM

totally LOOK for a used procharger kit. I found my original p1sc kit for 2500.00
added an upgraded fuel system and gear. got a custom tune and went 11.70 on my first pass...

solreaver · 07-29-2015, 05:51 PM

I got the dreaded head knock broke 3 pistons. Going with manley I beams and 0cc pistons head work and cams don't know what cams yet but may go bottle also trying to see if I can run 11 to 1 if not 10 and change.

Hpstang · 07-29-2015, 07:16 PM

is this for real

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJTL1jxCAXY

not a gt · 07-29-2015, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSG2003Mach1

not sure what the budget it is but have you priced it out snagging a used progarger kit from one of the forums? I would think you could get up and running on one for around 5k if you hunt the classified sections of various forums (assuming you can handle all the install stuff yourself)

Very true, got my kit for $2500 off a member, added hardware, tune, I got about $4000 total, with me doing install which I would gladly help you for no charge!!

Hpstang · 07-30-2015, 06:19 AM

Well for now I will just run it on motor with all the bolt ons and keep a look out for a good deal

Explosive · 07-30-2015, 11:49 AM

Deff go with a centri, wish i had.

Hpstang · 07-30-2015, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Explosive

Deff go with a centri, wish i had.

What did you go with

littlemags · 07-30-2015, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hpstang

What did you go with

^^ in his sig

littlemags · 07-30-2015, 04:24 PM

http://www.mach1registry.org/forums/...02&postcount=1

THIS was on a set of drag radials....and first run at Milan with p1sc

Mach828 · 07-30-2015, 05:15 PM

Used centri. Or eaton swap.

You can piece it together over a year or so that way its easier to manage cash wise.

Hpstang · 07-30-2015, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by littlemags

^^ in his sig

i dont see a sig

Hpstang · 07-30-2015, 06:23 PM

never mine didnt have it set up to see them. I do now thanks

SuperMach1 · 07-30-2015, 09:08 PM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XPTfxHD50PY

Procharger ftw!!!!!!!

Newskool Mach · 07-31-2015, 08:41 AM

Here's my old Mach with a bone stock 103,000 mile motor a 4R70W. Has a D1 Procharger running 8lbs of boost. Cobra pumps with a BAP and SLP off road X with LM2 mufflers. Had some rear suspension work and 4.10 gears. Car was dependable as hell and never missed a beat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YR1-1t67Q8

Hpstang · 08-05-2015, 04:50 PM

Boys and4 girls I might have just found my power adder. Just rode in a 03 Mach with this kit and needless to say it was love at first hit. This kit is for the Mach 1 and is very thought out. It is really hidden for the most part. Did I say it makes the Mach get down. Made 438 rwhp and 488 rwtq. Went from running 13.18 in the 1/4 to running 11.51 and picked up 13 mph on just a 100 shot. It hits hard. I have the bug now but I still have time to decide. For now it's just stack money and see how it goes when the time is right. Here is the kit. It's all under the shaker.

http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/efi-wet...ic-system.html

TKat13 · 08-05-2015, 05:04 PM

looks like a good kit, I like the setup.

Explosive · 08-06-2015, 10:17 AM

If you decide on nitrous go with the outlet kit. Half the headache my nitrous system has been was from nitrous express products. Specifically poor advice and an absolutely terrible remote bottle opener. And if you have any issues with their parts they wont hesitate to sell you a new one.... Nitrous outlet on the other hand got an email from me on one issue i had and they actually dug up my phone number and called me to apologize and got a call tag right out. That alone is enough to swing me one way. When you talk to the techs from both places you can tell the outlet guys seem more knowledgeable.

07-29-2015, 11:12 AM	#1
Hpstang Registered User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Kingsland ga Posts: 398	What would you do?? I have been going back and forth about the build direction for my car. I have thought about nitrous with all the bells and whistles, pro charger, or just plain all motor. What I want is something that's going to be reliable and work as it should. I'm looking for a mid to high 11 (at least very low 12's)street car. What route would you take? If I go pro charger it will be a few years before I can pony up the money for the whole kit Last edited by Hpstang; 07-29-2015 at 11:43 AM.

07-29-2015, 12:34 PM	#2
DSG2003Mach1 700 HP Mach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 8,384	Re: What would you do?? the all motor route tends to be expensive on these cars whats already done to the car and what kinda budget? nitrous gears and sticky tires is probably the cheapest path. Only downsides being that power isnt always available and bottle refills add up depending on how much track time you have __________________ 03 dsg mach1 - MPR built 9.5:1 motor, D1, cams, ported intake, full exhaust, magnum t56, built rear, E85 etc... '12 F150 FX2 Supercrew with Ecoboost daily beater

07-29-2015, 12:39 PM	#3
01yellerCobra Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,104	I'm all about the boost. Doesn't take a ton of head work and big cams to make good power. And the power is always available. __________________ New Ride: 2004 Mystichrome Cobra-Accufab SBTB and plenum, Steeda 2.8" upper, Bassani X, Borla Stingers, Mcleod RXT, MGW shifter, Level 5 halfshafts, chrome FR500's, Stiffler's FIT system and DS safety loop, GT pumps, BA3000, tuned by owner

07-29-2015, 02:08 PM	#4
Hpstang Registered User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Kingsland ga Posts: 398	Re: What would you do?? At the current moment I have borla stingers cat back, k&n drop in. On order mac pro chamber off road mid pipe, mgw shifter, mm subframe full length, upr torque box upper and lower kit. Dyno tune. This is all stage 1 then it's onto the direction I need to go to get where I want to be

07-29-2015, 02:28 PM	#5
TKat13 Mach-T Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: DFW Posts: 2,865	Re: What would you do?? Boost it or drop a coyote in it. __________________ Darrell Black '04 Mach 1 Track Times (bone-stock w/drs):60 ft - 1.90 \| 1/8 - 8.67 (100 shot,E85,4:10s,Street tire):60 ft - 1.67 \| 1/8 - 7.88 New build - 750rwhp; not track tested (yet) Mods: Build Log Paint&Body Tuned by Manny @ HPP

07-29-2015, 03:09 PM	#6
DSG2003Mach1 700 HP Mach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 8,384	Re: What would you do?? not sure what the budget it is but have you priced it out snagging a used progarger kit from one of the forums? I would think you could get up and running on one for around 5k if you hunt the classified sections of various forums (assuming you can handle all the install stuff yourself) __________________ 03 dsg mach1 - MPR built 9.5:1 motor, D1, cams, ported intake, full exhaust, magnum t56, built rear, E85 etc... '12 F150 FX2 Supercrew with Ecoboost daily beater

07-29-2015, 04:34 PM	#7
mach1metalhead Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,065	Turbo. Might be a bit more pricey to start, but that's where I'm potentially headed... __________________ 03 Mach (Auto) JLT RAI - 1/2" Intake Spacer - Mac longtubes - Mac Prochamber - Borla cat-back - PA Racing k-member - Energy Suspension motor mounts - Eibach Sportline springs - Eibach anti-roll kit - SPC caster/camber kit - Steeda X2 ball-joints - Steeda strut tower bar - Eibach 1" wheel spacers (rear only)

07-29-2015, 05:44 PM	#8
mach18604 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lyndhurst, Ohio Posts: 2,287	Re: What would you do?? Great Topic.. Youre not alone.. haha __________________ Collecting for an Eaton Swap down the road..

07-29-2015, 05:51 PM	#9
littlemags finally paid for Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ypsilanti Twp, Mi Posts: 4,077	Re: What would you do?? totally LOOK for a used procharger kit. I found my original p1sc kit for 2500.00 added an upgraded fuel system and gear. got a custom tune and went 11.70 on my first pass... __________________ 2004 mach 1-turbo build in progress.. Fast xfi 2.0 OLD combo- 826rwhp/720 trq -100 shot NX 9.13@154 on 100 shot NEW- in progress...

07-29-2015, 05:51 PM	#10
solreaver Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: scituate ri Posts: 98	Re: What would you do?? I got the dreaded head knock broke 3 pistons. Going with manley I beams and 0cc pistons head work and cams don't know what cams yet but may go bottle also trying to see if I can run 11 to 1 if not 10 and change.

07-29-2015, 07:16 PM	#11
Hpstang Registered User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Kingsland ga Posts: 398	Re: What would you do?? is this for real https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJTL1jxCAXY

07-30-2015, 06:19 AM	#13
Hpstang Registered User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Kingsland ga Posts: 398	Re: What would you do?? Well for now I will just run it on motor with all the bolt ons and keep a look out for a good deal

07-30-2015, 11:49 AM	#14
Explosive Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 876	Re: What would you do?? Deff go with a centri, wish i had.

07-30-2015, 04:24 PM	#17
littlemags finally paid for Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ypsilanti Twp, Mi Posts: 4,077	Re: What would you do?? http://www.mach1registry.org/forums/...02&postcount=1 THIS was on a set of drag radials....and first run at Milan with p1sc __________________ 2004 mach 1-turbo build in progress.. Fast xfi 2.0 OLD combo- 826rwhp/720 trq -100 shot NX 9.13@154 on 100 shot NEW- in progress...

07-30-2015, 05:15 PM	#18
Mach828 Dark Knight Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 5,759	Re: What would you do?? Used centri. Or eaton swap. You can piece it together over a year or so that way its easier to manage cash wise. __________________ Vortech V2 S-trim, E85, A2A Treadstone, Comp cams, built engine, full exhaust, built rear, built 4r70, more mods. Tuned by me with SCT Advantage

07-30-2015, 06:23 PM	#20
Hpstang Registered User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Kingsland ga Posts: 398	Re: What would you do?? never mine didnt have it set up to see them. I do now thanks

07-30-2015, 09:08 PM	#21
SuperMach1 Never Satisfied Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 1,134	Re: What would you do?? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XPTfxHD50PY Procharger ftw!!!!!!! __________________ P1 8psi @ 6k PA Transmission DD 3,600 Stall BBK LT's w/ 3in Collector Custom 3in X-Pipe Custom 3in CB w/ Pypes 3in M-80's Built Rear w/ 4:10 415/383 PB 11.80, @ 119 with a 1.71 60ft Tuned by http://www.southtexasperformance.com/ Built WAP Block, 10.5:1 compression, 14psi, E-85 Coming soon.

07-31-2015, 08:41 AM	#22
Newskool Mach 10 second club! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Royal Palm Beach FL. Posts: 2,472	Re: What would you do?? Here's my old Mach with a bone stock 103,000 mile motor a 4R70W. Has a D1 Procharger running 8lbs of boost. Cobra pumps with a BAP and SLP off road X with LM2 mufflers. Had some rear suspension work and 4.10 gears. Car was dependable as hell and never missed a beat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YR1-1t67Q8 __________________ 2014 GHIG GT auto soon to have the whoosh 03 Torch red auto (gone)

08-05-2015, 04:50 PM	#23
Hpstang Registered User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Kingsland ga Posts: 398	Re: What would you do?? Boys and4 girls I might have just found my power adder. Just rode in a 03 Mach with this kit and needless to say it was love at first hit. This kit is for the Mach 1 and is very thought out. It is really hidden for the most part. Did I say it makes the Mach get down. Made 438 rwhp and 488 rwtq. Went from running 13.18 in the 1/4 to running 11.51 and picked up 13 mph on just a 100 shot. It hits hard. I have the bug now but I still have time to decide. For now it's just stack money and see how it goes when the time is right. Here is the kit. It's all under the shaker. http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/efi-wet...ic-system.html

08-05-2015, 05:04 PM	#24
TKat13 Mach-T Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: DFW Posts: 2,865	Re: What would you do?? looks like a good kit, I like the setup. __________________ Darrell Black '04 Mach 1 Track Times (bone-stock w/drs):60 ft - 1.90 \| 1/8 - 8.67 (100 shot,E85,4:10s,Street tire):60 ft - 1.67 \| 1/8 - 7.88 New build - 750rwhp; not track tested (yet) Mods: Build Log Paint&Body Tuned by Manny @ HPP

08-06-2015, 10:17 AM	#25
Explosive Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 876	Re: What would you do?? If you decide on nitrous go with the outlet kit. Half the headache my nitrous system has been was from nitrous express products. Specifically poor advice and an absolutely terrible remote bottle opener. And if you have any issues with their parts they wont hesitate to sell you a new one.... Nitrous outlet on the other hand got an email from me on one issue i had and they actually dug up my phone number and called me to apologize and got a call tag right out. That alone is enough to swing me one way. When you talk to the techs from both places you can tell the outlet guys seem more knowledgeable.

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