Tr3650 good for 8k rpm coyote swap?? - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

mustangfrank · 10-10-2014, 07:01 PM

Needs some helps for my future project!!

I bougth an 02 gt, about 2 days ago, for a 8k rpm coyote swap and I don't know if the transmission will handle those high rpm, if not does a t-56 could do the job or I will need something else?

I was also asking myself if I should take the ECU from the ford racing coyote swap kit (heard people having problem when modding with this package) or any other oem ECU?

I plan to install TB, cobra jet intake manifold and comp cams stage 3.

01yellerCobra · 10-10-2014, 08:26 PM

You're probably going to want to look into having a 3650 built for that. I don't think I know of anyone that takes theirs to 8k. You'll want to make sure whatever you have shifts like butter. A lot can happen fast at that rpm.

sspstangbanger · 10-10-2014, 09:01 PM

Get a Tko and modular bellhousing
The 3650 will not be ideal for a coyote. Trust me I drive a 474RWHP 7,800 rpm coyote around and have had many 3650 including some built ones and none of them would be good above 7,500

01yellerCobra · 10-10-2014, 09:05 PM

Can the TKO handle high rpm shifts? Everything I've seen shows they hate being shifted above 6500.

I love my T-56 but I don't know if it would like 8k.

sspstangbanger · 10-11-2014, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 01yellerCobra

Can the TKO handle high rpm shifts? Everything I've seen shows they hate being shifted above 6500.

I love my T-56 but I don't know if it would like 8k.

If you get it done by Hanlon it will.
Pro-shift 3rd if you really plan to shift that high in a regular basis.

lcaptmorg · 10-12-2014, 05:11 PM

Have not seen any one be able to shift a 3650 that high. The new gear clusters that are available for them are rumored to have some more rpm capability but I have not tried one personally. Hopefully put one together in the next few months.

Street car or race care? Of course a well built faceplate would have no problem with that rpm.

mustangfrank · 10-12-2014, 08:22 PM

it's for a street/race car.

So a tr3650 would not do the job. So I should look at a modified t-56 or a tko600?

311-420 · 10-12-2014, 10:22 PM

My buddy has a faceplated t56 for sale if you're interested. It's noisy as hell ( apparently that's how those types of trans' are) but he no-lift shifts it like it's nothing. Would be perfect for an all out drag situation.

mustangfrank · 10-13-2014, 09:03 AM

just forget to say that i'm not going to do drag but lapping with this car.

4a7191a · 10-17-2014, 02:17 AM

I shift mine at 7500ish+ , but its also knocking on heavens door at 26k miles. :/

na svt · 10-30-2014, 10:51 AM

You would be better off with a built t45 than a TKO (unless it's faceplated of course.) Call Zak at the T45source and ask his opinion.

PeteEpple · 10-31-2014, 11:12 AM

I shifted my old Mach at 8200 with a T56 Magnum no issues at all

mikeracing · 11-01-2014, 11:51 AM

look into a road race transmission then like a 5 speed richmond or other brand. it will be faster shifts more reliable, waste less power and the trade off is will be noise

10-10-2014, 07:01 PM	#1
mustangfrank Mach1 QC Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sorel, Quebec, Canada Posts: 156	Tr3650 good for 8k rpm coyote swap?? Needs some helps for my future project!! I bougth an 02 gt, about 2 days ago, for a 8k rpm coyote swap and I don't know if the transmission will handle those high rpm, if not does a t-56 could do the job or I will need something else? I was also asking myself if I should take the ECU from the ford racing coyote swap kit (heard people having problem when modding with this package) or any other oem ECU? I plan to install TB, cobra jet intake manifold and comp cams stage 3. __________________ 2004 Oxford White Mach 1 5-speed Present mods: -SCT Tune. -JLT Ram Air Intake. -Short Shifter Hurst. -Catted MRT H-Pipe. -SSS Adrenaline Catback. -Line Lock. -Eibach drop -AFS Mach 1 wheel replica 17 X 10.5'' -Nitto 315/35ZR17 -Stock Ported Intake Manifold Next mods: -TOKICO’s D-Spec Series adjustable shock and struts -Steeda Competition springs

10-10-2014, 08:26 PM	#2
01yellerCobra Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,104	You're probably going to want to look into having a 3650 built for that. I don't think I know of anyone that takes theirs to 8k. You'll want to make sure whatever you have shifts like butter. A lot can happen fast at that rpm. __________________ New Ride: 2004 Mystichrome Cobra-Accufab SBTB and plenum, Steeda 2.8" upper, Bassani X, Borla Stingers, Mcleod RXT, MGW shifter, Level 5 halfshafts, chrome FR500's, Stiffler's FIT system and DS safety loop, GT pumps, BA3000, tuned by owner

10-10-2014, 09:05 PM	#4
01yellerCobra Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,104	Can the TKO handle high rpm shifts? Everything I've seen shows they hate being shifted above 6500. I love my T-56 but I don't know if it would like 8k. __________________ New Ride: 2004 Mystichrome Cobra-Accufab SBTB and plenum, Steeda 2.8" upper, Bassani X, Borla Stingers, Mcleod RXT, MGW shifter, Level 5 halfshafts, chrome FR500's, Stiffler's FIT system and DS safety loop, GT pumps, BA3000, tuned by owner

10-12-2014, 05:11 PM	#6
lcaptmorg Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,086	Re: Tr3650 good for 8k rpm coyote swap?? Have not seen any one be able to shift a 3650 that high. The new gear clusters that are available for them are rumored to have some more rpm capability but I have not tried one personally. Hopefully put one together in the next few months. Street car or race care? Of course a well built faceplate would have no problem with that rpm. __________________ 03 We call her Hooker. Stock Long Block 301/310 12.08@110 1.58 60ft 4400da Cams and intake 365/338 SAE 11.73@115 1.54 60ft @3400 ft DA 13.6:1 Cornfed NA 5.0 497/421 SAE 10.66@128 1.42 60ft 3000ft DA

10-12-2014, 08:22 PM	#7
mustangfrank Mach1 QC Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sorel, Quebec, Canada Posts: 156	Re: Tr3650 good for 8k rpm coyote swap?? it's for a street/race car. So a tr3650 would not do the job. So I should look at a modified t-56 or a tko600? __________________ 2004 Oxford White Mach 1 5-speed Present mods: -SCT Tune. -JLT Ram Air Intake. -Short Shifter Hurst. -Catted MRT H-Pipe. -SSS Adrenaline Catback. -Line Lock. -Eibach drop -AFS Mach 1 wheel replica 17 X 10.5'' -Nitto 315/35ZR17 -Stock Ported Intake Manifold Next mods: -TOKICO’s D-Spec Series adjustable shock and struts -Steeda Competition springs

10-10-2014, 09:01 PM	#3
sspstangbanger Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Plantersville, TX Posts: 354	Get a Tko and modular bellhousing The 3650 will not be ideal for a coyote. Trust me I drive a 474RWHP 7,800 rpm coyote around and have had many 3650 including some built ones and none of them would be good above 7,500

10-12-2014, 10:22 PM	#8
311-420 Can't be bridled Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 7,006	Re: Tr3650 good for 8k rpm coyote swap?? My buddy has a faceplated t56 for sale if you're interested. It's noisy as hell ( apparently that's how those types of trans' are) but he no-lift shifts it like it's nothing. Would be perfect for an all out drag situation. __________________ 2004 Mach 1 #6956 5spd w/IUP Eaton swap, longtubes, built 3.73 SRA 452hp/409tq dynojet🏁

10-13-2014, 09:03 AM	#9
mustangfrank Mach1 QC Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sorel, Quebec, Canada Posts: 156	Re: Tr3650 good for 8k rpm coyote swap?? just forget to say that i'm not going to do drag but lapping with this car. __________________ 2004 Oxford White Mach 1 5-speed Present mods: -SCT Tune. -JLT Ram Air Intake. -Short Shifter Hurst. -Catted MRT H-Pipe. -SSS Adrenaline Catback. -Line Lock. -Eibach drop -AFS Mach 1 wheel replica 17 X 10.5'' -Nitto 315/35ZR17 -Stock Ported Intake Manifold Next mods: -TOKICO’s D-Spec Series adjustable shock and struts -Steeda Competition springs

10-17-2014, 02:17 AM	#10
4a7191a Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: beaumont texas Posts: 1,344	Re: Tr3650 good for 8k rpm coyote swap?? I shift mine at 7500ish+ , but its also knocking on heavens door at 26k miles. :/ __________________ 2004white mach1 2001 svt lightning 2011 Mitsubishi Evo X 1999 F250 7.3L

10-30-2014, 10:51 AM	#11
na svt Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: beavercreek, oh Posts: 4,695	Re: Tr3650 good for 8k rpm coyote swap?? You would be better off with a built t45 than a TKO (unless it's faceplated of course.) Call Zak at the T45source and ask his opinion.

10-31-2014, 11:12 AM	#12
PeteEpple Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 738	Re: Tr3650 good for 8k rpm coyote swap?? I shifted my old Mach at 8200 with a T56 Magnum no issues at all __________________ 3 pedals... 2 bottles... and 1 loose nut behind the wheel!

11-01-2014, 11:51 AM	#13
mikeracing MECHANIC Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Morgantown, WV Posts: 916	Re: Tr3650 good for 8k rpm coyote swap?? look into a road race transmission then like a 5 speed richmond or other brand. it will be faster shifts more reliable, waste less power and the trade off is will be noise

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