Who's Eaton Swapping Currently?? - Page 2 - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

watman02 · 03-18-2013, 08:40 PM

Yes

L.T. Smash · 03-18-2013, 10:47 PM

you guys are brave! i paid the shop to install it, lol. it's gonna be worth it though. boost is the greatest thing ever.

Stopsign32v · 03-18-2013, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by L.T. Smash

you guys are brave! i paid the shop to install it, lol. it's gonna be worth it though. boost is the greatest thing ever.

How much are they charging? I'd imagine $1000+

bleedingfordblu · 03-19-2013, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by watman02

Yes

That's what I thought thanks

bleedingfordblu · 03-20-2013, 01:33 PM

So on the Eaton swap thread post #16 talks about wiring up the connector for the iat2. I don't understand which wires I'm supposed to use when soldering to the pigtail. Can anyone help me out?

watman02 · 03-21-2013, 03:57 PM

If i remember right its the two outside wires from the maf gets cut and used for the iat2 at the tmap sensor on the eaton. theres a good write up in the eaton swap II thread in this section.

bleedingfordblu · 03-21-2013, 04:23 PM

Yeah I'm going off that write up by I got confused by the other option that's for that sensor, thanks though. The car should be done this weekend

Pcmoore85 · 03-23-2013, 07:28 AM

Here is good reference

bleedingfordblu · 03-24-2013, 11:02 AM

Thanks for the help guys, the car fired right up yesterday

JaybTorchedMach · 03-24-2013, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bleedingfordblu

Thanks for the help guys, the car fired right up yesterday

I'm jealous

I'm still waiting on some parts from the coater. Post some pics and graph when you get some!

watman02 · 03-24-2013, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bleedingfordblu

Thanks for the help guys, the car fired right up yesterday

When u getting it tuned?

musclemerc · 03-24-2013, 05:32 PM

What are you guys doing for the knock sensors? I noticed a few of you ground the stock mounting boss flush with the valley. Whats up with that?

Are most of you guys deleting them all together? Or are you moving them to the back of the cylinder heads?

Heres what I did with mine:

SHAKN' 04 · 03-24-2013, 06:56 PM

Take them out and have your tuner turn them off

Pcmoore85 · 03-24-2013, 06:58 PM

I just bolted to back of heads and extended the wiring harness since the car is not a race car and I drive it a good bit I want to keep them in case I get bad tank of gas or something hopefully it will pull timing if it starts to detonate

Here is a semi finished eaton swap with custom brackets

JaybTorchedMach · 03-24-2013, 07:58 PM

They are deleted all together. Apparently Cobras don't come equipped with them at all.

musclemerc · 03-25-2013, 06:55 AM

^^^Probably had something to do with the fact that Cobra's are fully forged

Are motors are......NOT

JaybTorchedMach · 03-25-2013, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by musclemerc

^^^Probably had something to do with the fact that Cobra's are fully forged

Are motors are......NOT

Cobras have their limits too. But if you can incorporate them into your build power to you.

watman02 · 03-25-2013, 01:56 PM

I talked to don lasota a couple weeks ago and he said they didnt have knock sensors due the noise the blower makes can cause it to pull timing when nothing is wrong. i was going to relocate them too But after talking to him Im just deleting them too

JaybTorchedMach · 03-25-2013, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by watman02

I talked to don lasota a couple weeks ago and he said they didnt have knock sensors due the noise the blower makes can cause it to pull timing when nothing is wrong. i was going to relocate them too But after talking to him Im just deleting them too

Good to know. Thanks for the info!

Pcmoore85 · 03-25-2013, 09:46 PM

Their sensitivity can be turned down in the tune if u want to keep them incase they are picking up feed back from the blower just another piece of mind

machgsxr · 03-26-2013, 01:13 AM

Pcmoore85 and musclemerc, how much have you two spent on doing the swap using those brackets.

Im doing another eaton swap. Does it count if it was already on the car, but I wasn't happy with how it was done, so im taking it all back off and redoing it?

How about if im swapping motors out too?

If thats the case, im working on two right now.

Knock sensors, I ground the bosses off because otherwise the cobra lower intake will NOT sit in the valley like it is supposed to. Didn't care for them either so no reason for me to relocate them. SAFE TUNE is key. Never tried to push the limits by maxing out timing or boost.

musclemerc · 03-26-2013, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by machgsxr

Pcmoore85 and musclemerc, how much have you two spent on doing the swap using those brackets.

Im doing another eaton swap. Does it count if it was already on the car, but I wasn't happy with how it was done, so im taking it all back off and redoing it?

How about if im swapping motors out too?

If thats the case, im working on two right now.

Knock sensors, I ground the bosses off because otherwise the cobra lower intake will NOT sit in the valley like it is supposed to. Didn't care for them either so no reason for me to relocate them. SAFE TUNE is key. Never tried to push the limits by maxing out timing or boost.

My swap is in a Marauder using a Trilogy SC, it cost a little more than a conventional Eaton Swap, they normally run between $3000.00~ $3500.00

Terry's brackets will work on any modular 4v engine timing cover, engine in or out

The Cobra lower intake will sit square with the knock sensors in the valley. I just posted a few pics of mine after I ground about 5/16" off the top then I drilled/tapped a stud through the side of the mounting boss.

here is my Trilogy swap:

watman02 · 03-26-2013, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NativePony

I just dropped my car off yesterday to have the swap done. I cant wait to get it back and feel the difference!

You get the car back yet????

bleedingfordblu · 03-27-2013, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by watman02

When u getting it tuned?

Soon hopefully. I'm getting a base tune so I can drive it to my tuner but I gave a coolant leak coming from the bell housing so I'm pulling the blower off this weekend to hopefully find a simple and quick fix, fingers crossed!

machgsxr · 03-27-2013, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bleedingfordblu

Soon hopefully. I'm getting a base tune so I can drive it to my tuner but I gave a coolant leak coming from the bell housing so I'm pulling the blower off this weekend to hopefully find a simple and quick fix, fingers crossed!

You have a lcd cooling mod or whatever the hell brand it is that bolts to the back of the drivers head?

03-18-2013, 08:40 PM	#26
watman02 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Denver, Ia Posts: 443	Re: Who's Eaton Swapping Currently?? Yes __________________ mods:cai, flowmaster 40's, o/r x tune best et: 13.17@107mph & 8.56@84.5 1/8 new mods: spacer, 98 cobra cams 4.10's new times: 2.12 60' 1/8-8.44@85.97 1/4-13.0@109.76 New mods:Ported eaton swap divisonX 340 pump, 3.4 pulley@ 9#, 60# dekas, Lmaf, egr delete, aem wideband, ET streets TUNED by ME!....with SCT proracer softwear!! 482hp / 481tq new times:1.7-60' 1/8-7.724 @92.4 and 11.8 @118 1/4 00 SS Camaro M6 with 8.8 rear 3.73 gear. bolt on's and tune times: 1.8 60' 12.8 @111

03-18-2013, 10:47 PM	#27
L.T. Smash Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 392	Re: Who's Eaton Swapping Currently?? you guys are brave! i paid the shop to install it, lol. it's gonna be worth it though. boost is the greatest thing ever. __________________ 2004 DSG Mach 1 476rwhp and 406rwtq at 8lb Kenne Bell 2.1 blower comp cams 106100 LTs, Prochamber, catback built rear with 4.30s accufab TB, alum ds, Roush shifter AFS wheels, Nitto tires, Eibach springs

03-20-2013, 01:33 PM	#30
bleedingfordblu Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Leesburg, VA Posts: 1,985	Re: Who's Eaton Swapping Currently?? So on the Eaton swap thread post #16 talks about wiring up the connector for the iat2. I don't understand which wires I'm supposed to use when soldering to the pigtail. Can anyone help me out? __________________ 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 Stock bottom end/compression Eaton M112 Stock upper Stock lower K&N intake Built T56 Bassani mid length headers Bassani catted x pipe Bassani slash cut tip catback Stock 03 Cobra IRS 18x9/10 Forgestar F14 Tuned by Chris Macduff at IMA motorsports 429hp 407 tq @ 7.5 lbs of boost

03-21-2013, 03:57 PM	#31
watman02 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Denver, Ia Posts: 443	Re: Who's Eaton Swapping Currently?? If i remember right its the two outside wires from the maf gets cut and used for the iat2 at the tmap sensor on the eaton. theres a good write up in the eaton swap II thread in this section. __________________ mods:cai, flowmaster 40's, o/r x tune best et: 13.17@107mph & 8.56@84.5 1/8 new mods: spacer, 98 cobra cams 4.10's new times: 2.12 60' 1/8-8.44@85.97 1/4-13.0@109.76 New mods:Ported eaton swap divisonX 340 pump, 3.4 pulley@ 9#, 60# dekas, Lmaf, egr delete, aem wideband, ET streets TUNED by ME!....with SCT proracer softwear!! 482hp / 481tq new times:1.7-60' 1/8-7.724 @92.4 and 11.8 @118 1/4 00 SS Camaro M6 with 8.8 rear 3.73 gear. bolt on's and tune times: 1.8 60' 12.8 @111

03-21-2013, 04:23 PM	#32
bleedingfordblu Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Leesburg, VA Posts: 1,985	Re: Who's Eaton Swapping Currently?? Yeah I'm going off that write up by I got confused by the other option that's for that sensor, thanks though. The car should be done this weekend __________________ 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 Stock bottom end/compression Eaton M112 Stock upper Stock lower K&N intake Built T56 Bassani mid length headers Bassani catted x pipe Bassani slash cut tip catback Stock 03 Cobra IRS 18x9/10 Forgestar F14 Tuned by Chris Macduff at IMA motorsports 429hp 407 tq @ 7.5 lbs of boost

03-23-2013, 07:28 AM	#33
Pcmoore85 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Mooresville Posts: 21	Re: Who's Eaton Swapping Currently?? Here is good reference Attached Thumbnails

03-24-2013, 11:02 AM	#34
bleedingfordblu Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Leesburg, VA Posts: 1,985	Re: Who's Eaton Swapping Currently?? Thanks for the help guys, the car fired right up yesterday __________________ 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 Stock bottom end/compression Eaton M112 Stock upper Stock lower K&N intake Built T56 Bassani mid length headers Bassani catted x pipe Bassani slash cut tip catback Stock 03 Cobra IRS 18x9/10 Forgestar F14 Tuned by Chris Macduff at IMA motorsports 429hp 407 tq @ 7.5 lbs of boost

03-24-2013, 05:32 PM	#37
musclemerc Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Byram,MS Posts: 285	Re: Who's Eaton Swapping Currently?? What are you guys doing for the knock sensors? I noticed a few of you ground the stock mounting boss flush with the valley. Whats up with that? Are most of you guys deleting them all together? Or are you moving them to the back of the cylinder heads? Heres what I did with mine:

03-24-2013, 06:56 PM	#38
SHAKN' 04 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kyle, Texas Posts: 2,285	Re: Who's Eaton Swapping Currently?? Take them out and have your tuner turn them off __________________ SOLD04' Mach 1 -Comp Cams 106100's (deg 106/110) -Eatonswap with 3.4 Pulley -Full Exhaust (mac lts & xpipe, sss terminator c/b) -Built Rear w/ 3.55 gears [B]-Tuned by Lethal Performance of San Antonio -510hp/478tq

03-24-2013, 06:58 PM	#39
Pcmoore85 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Mooresville Posts: 21	Re: Who's Eaton Swapping Currently?? I just bolted to back of heads and extended the wiring harness since the car is not a race car and I drive it a good bit I want to keep them in case I get bad tank of gas or something hopefully it will pull timing if it starts to detonate Here is a semi finished eaton swap with custom brackets Attached Thumbnails

03-24-2013, 07:58 PM	#40
JaybTorchedMach Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 1,746	Re: Who's Eaton Swapping Currently?? They are deleted all together. Apparently Cobras don't come equipped with them at all.

03-25-2013, 06:55 AM	#41
musclemerc Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Byram,MS Posts: 285	Re: Who's Eaton Swapping Currently?? ^^^Probably had something to do with the fact that Cobra's are fully forged Are motors are......NOT

03-25-2013, 01:56 PM	#43
watman02 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Denver, Ia Posts: 443	Re: Who's Eaton Swapping Currently?? I talked to don lasota a couple weeks ago and he said they didnt have knock sensors due the noise the blower makes can cause it to pull timing when nothing is wrong. i was going to relocate them too But after talking to him Im just deleting them too __________________ mods:cai, flowmaster 40's, o/r x tune best et: 13.17@107mph & 8.56@84.5 1/8 new mods: spacer, 98 cobra cams 4.10's new times: 2.12 60' 1/8-8.44@85.97 1/4-13.0@109.76 New mods:Ported eaton swap divisonX 340 pump, 3.4 pulley@ 9#, 60# dekas, Lmaf, egr delete, aem wideband, ET streets TUNED by ME!....with SCT proracer softwear!! 482hp / 481tq new times:1.7-60' 1/8-7.724 @92.4 and 11.8 @118 1/4 00 SS Camaro M6 with 8.8 rear 3.73 gear. bolt on's and tune times: 1.8 60' 12.8 @111

03-25-2013, 09:46 PM	#45
Pcmoore85 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Mooresville Posts: 21	Re: Who's Eaton Swapping Currently?? Their sensitivity can be turned down in the tune if u want to keep them incase they are picking up feed back from the blower just another piece of mind

03-26-2013, 01:13 AM	#46
machgsxr Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Antonio Posts: 6,414	Re: Who's Eaton Swapping Currently?? Pcmoore85 and musclemerc, how much have you two spent on doing the swap using those brackets. Im doing another eaton swap. Does it count if it was already on the car, but I wasn't happy with how it was done, so im taking it all back off and redoing it? How about if im swapping motors out too? If thats the case, im working on two right now. Knock sensors, I ground the bosses off because otherwise the cobra lower intake will NOT sit in the valley like it is supposed to. Didn't care for them either so no reason for me to relocate them. SAFE TUNE is key. Never tried to push the limits by maxing out timing or boost.

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