Head Light Mods - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

SHAKE IT · 02-16-2004, 02:41 PM

Has anyone replaced their head lights with the HID 100/80's. I've heard from Ford that they are not good for the plastic lenses and they could cause condensation later.

Also has anyone found any nice looking projector beams or HID's for the headlamp assy. or fog lights?

machburger · 02-17-2004, 11:20 AM

Don't use the 100/80 watters! I had them in my 97 F150 and my wiring harness connection at the bulb fried. After I fixed the socket, I switched to the Eurolite Fusion bulb made by Toucan Industries. These bulbs produced a bright white light using stock wattage. A lot of people using the higher wattage bulbs have had these types of problems. I hope this helps you.

SHAKE IT · 02-17-2004, 11:46 AM

Thanks,
I've noticed there are some out there that use the lower wattage and claim to have the brighter light. Maybe I'll see if they work well.

DSG2003Mach1 · 02-17-2004, 12:14 PM

I thought the silverstars worked pretty well in my explorer...

and whatever youre talking about arent HIDs then, true HIDs run the same or cooler than most normal bulbs..just takes a ton of power to get em to come on.

BlackSunshine · 02-17-2004, 08:14 PM

Go with the Silverstars.....love'em, they work great. But be prepaired to get flashed every once in awhile, they are a bit brighter

Poisoned Pony · 02-17-2004, 09:40 PM

Xenondepot.com makes a good quality Philips HID conversion kit

www.xenondepot.com

as for Projector lamps, someone on 3.8Mustang.com converted from Halogens to HIDs using a set of Bi-Xenons from an Audi

http://www.3.8mustang.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58066

Rubbersidedown · 02-18-2004, 02:05 AM

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Originally posted by BlackSunshine
Go with the Silverstars.....love'em, they work great. But be prepaired to get flashed every once in awhile, they are a bit brighter

I bought some silver stars today, going to install them tomorrow.
Did you have to disconnect the battery and remove it and remove the airbox to get to them? Both sides looked blocked or else I'll need a very small hand.

Poisoned Pony · 02-18-2004, 02:36 AM

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Originally posted by Rubbersidedown
I bought some silver stars today, going to install them tomorrow.
Did you have to disconnect the battery and remove it and remove the airbox to get to them? Both sides looked blocked or else I'll need a very small hand.

pull the headlight itself out. It's retained in by 3 metal clips. It'll take alittle effort to pop it off, but it'll come

greyhorse · 02-19-2004, 12:09 AM

When using the silver stars are both beams brighter or just the high beam? I would like to leave the low beam as is so I don't get flashed back.

Rubbersidedown · 02-20-2004, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by greyhorse
When using the silver stars are both beams brighter or just the high beam? I would like to leave the low beam as is so I don't get flashed back.

Installed mine today, it took a little effort. I love'em. Much better, nice $30.00 mod.

2k4mach · 02-21-2004, 12:58 AM

silverstars :THUMBSUP:
My buddy blew probably a 100 bux on different bulbs higher wattage, etc and was never happy until i convinced him to get silverstars, now he goes around telling everyone to get a pair

Fosters · 02-21-2004, 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by greyhorse
When using the silver stars are both beams brighter or just the high beam? I would like to leave the low beam as is so I don't get flashed back.

both beams are brighter, the low beam ain't bad, i've only been flashed once in about 6 months (almost, I think) of having them. it's even more fun flashing people back, you can just see their "god dammit" face :p

SVTSnake · 02-21-2004, 11:24 AM

I replaced mine a couple weeks ago. Went with the Silverstars in both the headlamps and foglamps! Big difference over the crappy stock bulbs.

:THUMBSUP:

Mustanganatic · 02-21-2004, 01:04 PM

I've messed with all kinds of halogen bulbs claiming to be brighter, except those blue ones that ricers use. I tried some Silverstars on my truck and I can say I do notice an improvement. I haven't seen those Eurolite Fusion bulbs mentioned by machburger. HIDs would be the ultimate, but $30 vs. $800 is a no brainer. Plus HIDs are a drastically more involved conversion.

Rubbersidedown · 02-21-2004, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SVTSnake
I replaced mine a couple weeks ago. Went with the Silverstars in both the headlamps and foglamps! Big difference over the crappy stock bulbs.

:THUMBSUP:

You don't the part number for the fog lamps do you?

How hard are they to swap out?

SHAKE IT · 02-22-2004, 09:26 PM

The Sylvania part number is 899 for the fog lights.

TicketRed03 · 02-22-2004, 10:24 PM

I have heard these type of HID lights only last for about 300 hours? It seems like a lot but depending on how much you drive at night, that can be very short. I see somebody put the part # for the fog lamps down, but what is the part# for the actual headlights? Thank you

Mach1Phreak · 02-22-2004, 11:35 PM

Headlights are 9007st.

just installed mine, they are the bomb.

TicketRed03 · 02-23-2004, 03:00 AM

The Sylvania's are not the same as silver star's are they?

If not, are the sylvania lights as good as the silver stars?

281CJ Mach1 · 02-23-2004, 05:39 AM

My 899 Silverstar fogs keep burning out. Getting expensive. Which fogs are people using? I'm thinking about the wattage and what not....maybe it's too much for the 899s to handle.

Sylvania makes the Silverstars and also makes the factory bulbs that came in your Mach.

2k4mach · 02-23-2004, 10:49 AM

im having the same problem, my silverstars in my fogs keep burning out about once a month they go out, im ready to go back to stock bulbs for the fogs 20 bux a bulb is starting to get expensive, ive checked out the wattage, it is the same on the silverstars as the stock bulbs 37.5w for our fogs

Mustanganatic · 02-23-2004, 10:59 AM

Thanks for the heads up on the fogs... looks like I won't be getting them.

TicketRed03 · 02-23-2004, 01:18 PM

Is anybody having any luck with the fog lamps from silver star lasting more than a month? I would like to get them, but I would like to hear someone who has had some luck with the fog lamps first. Thanks

SVTSnake · 02-23-2004, 03:47 PM

I haven't had the fogs for a month yet, so I will post back when a month is up! You guys aren't touching the glass of the bulbs with your fingers are you? If you are, that is why they are burning out. They are just like a quartz bulb. Grease from your fingers causes the bulbs to prematurally burn out....

2k4mach · 02-23-2004, 05:05 PM

i havent touched the glass on them i do run my fogs when its overcast during the day, but that little bit of added use shouldnt be causing them to burn out so quickly

02-16-2004, 02:41 PM	#1
SHAKE IT Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WOOSTER, OHIO Posts: 19	Head Light Mods Has anyone replaced their head lights with the HID 100/80's. I've heard from Ford that they are not good for the plastic lenses and they could cause condensation later. Also has anyone found any nice looking projector beams or HID's for the headlamp assy. or fog lights? __________________ I have blue blood and an oil filter for a liver. 2003 DSG Mach 1 1970 Fastback 1970 Conv. 1965 Conv. F150 Winstar 1953 Ford tractor Last edited by SHAKE IT; 02-16-2004 at 09:42 PM.

02-17-2004, 11:20 AM	#2
machburger Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ashford, Alabama Posts: 410	Don't use the 100/80 watters! I had them in my 97 F150 and my wiring harness connection at the bulb fried. After I fixed the socket, I switched to the Eurolite Fusion bulb made by Toucan Industries. These bulbs produced a bright white light using stock wattage. A lot of people using the higher wattage bulbs have had these types of problems. I hope this helps you. __________________ 04 Mach1 - Torch Red 5sp w/IUP --Mods: K&N, Resonator Plugged, Pro 5.0 Shifter, Complete Alpine & Crossfire Sound System, Borla Stinger Catback, MAC Prochamber, ASP Solid Motor Mounts, UPR Extreme Firewall Adjuster, MM Clutch Quadrant, MM Poly Rack Bushings, Eibach Pro-Kit --Future Mods: NONE...THE EX-WIFE IS GETTING IT IN THE DIVORCE!!

02-17-2004, 11:46 AM	#3
SHAKE IT Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WOOSTER, OHIO Posts: 19	Thanks, I've noticed there are some out there that use the lower wattage and claim to have the brighter light. Maybe I'll see if they work well. __________________ I have blue blood and an oil filter for a liver. 2003 DSG Mach 1 1970 Fastback 1970 Conv. 1965 Conv. F150 Winstar 1953 Ford tractor

02-17-2004, 12:14 PM	#4
DSG2003Mach1 700 HP Mach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 8,384	I thought the silverstars worked pretty well in my explorer... and whatever youre talking about arent HIDs then, true HIDs run the same or cooler than most normal bulbs..just takes a ton of power to get em to come on. __________________ 03 dsg mach1 - MPR built 9.5:1 motor, D1, cams, ported intake, full exhaust, magnum t56, built rear, E85 etc... '12 F150 FX2 Supercrew with Ecoboost daily beater

02-17-2004, 08:14 PM	#5
BlackSunshine Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 70	SilverStars Go with the Silverstars.....love'em, they work great. But be prepaired to get flashed every once in awhile, they are a bit brighter __________________ -2003 Mustang Mach 1- Black/AT (1 of 1943) IUP NGK Iridium spark plugs Silver Star Headlights (9007) BFG Tires ----------------------------------------- Upgrades Soon: Air Intake Kit Borla Exhaust

02-17-2004, 09:40 PM	#6
Poisoned Pony Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ft Hood, TX Posts: 197	Xenondepot.com makes a good quality Philips HID conversion kit www.xenondepot.com as for Projector lamps, someone on 3.8Mustang.com converted from Halogens to HIDs using a set of Bi-Xenons from an Audi http://www.3.8mustang.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58066

02-19-2004, 12:09 AM	#9
greyhorse Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cody, WY Posts: 44	When using the silver stars are both beams brighter or just the high beam? I would like to leave the low beam as is so I don't get flashed back. __________________ 03 DSG 5SPD IUP MGW accents Meziere water pump Steeda Tri-Ax Kenny Brown seat rail extenders MM subframe connector,caster camber plates,SS brake lines,lower control arms,panhard bar, Bilstein shocks struts & springs.MRT catted H pipe, Magnaflow catback,&C&L cai.

02-21-2004, 12:58 AM	#11
2k4mach LuLz Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cedar Park, TX Posts: 19,294	silverstars :THUMBSUP: My buddy blew probably a 100 bux on different bulbs higher wattage, etc and was never happy until i convinced him to get silverstars, now he goes around telling everyone to get a pair __________________ 11 Sterling gray GT500 coupe 08 Silver Z06 1058rwhp/1073rwt @ 15psi 14 Silver Q50S Vortech blown 04 DSG Mach 1 (stolen) 03 OW Mach 1 (sitting in a field rotting away)

02-21-2004, 11:24 AM	#13
SVTSnake Mach Freak Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Pasadena MD USA Posts: 560	I replaced mine a couple weeks ago. Went with the Silverstars in both the headlamps and foglamps! Big difference over the crappy stock bulbs. :THUMBSUP: __________________ Gone, but NOT forgotten... 2003 Mach 1 - Zinc Yellow Born 06/12/03, VIN# 436142 5 Speed, IUP 312 HP, 321 FT. LBS. TRQ. (5/10/05)

02-21-2004, 01:04 PM	#14
Mustanganatic Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Blasdell, New York Posts: 681	I've messed with all kinds of halogen bulbs claiming to be brighter, except those blue ones that ricers use. I tried some Silverstars on my truck and I can say I do notice an improvement. I haven't seen those Eurolite Fusion bulbs mentioned by machburger. HIDs would be the ultimate, but $30 vs. $800 is a no brainer. Plus HIDs are a drastically more involved conversion.

02-22-2004, 09:26 PM	#16
SHAKE IT Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WOOSTER, OHIO Posts: 19	The Sylvania part number is 899 for the fog lights. __________________ I have blue blood and an oil filter for a liver. 2003 DSG Mach 1 1970 Fastback 1970 Conv. 1965 Conv. F150 Winstar 1953 Ford tractor

02-22-2004, 10:24 PM	#17
TicketRed03 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Simi Valley, SoCal Posts: 110	I have heard these type of HID lights only last for about 300 hours? It seems like a lot but depending on how much you drive at night, that can be very short. I see somebody put the part # for the fog lamps down, but what is the part# for the actual headlights? Thank you __________________ 03 Torch Red Mach 1, 5-speed w/ IUP PERFORMANCE: Magnaflow cat-back MRT short throw shifter K&N AirCharger MRT Catted H-pipe APPEARANCE: MGW-cigarette lighter MGW-e-brake handle MGW-A/C knobs MRT Street Performance Springs

02-22-2004, 11:35 PM	#18
Mach1Phreak Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Santa Rosa, CA Posts: 58	Headlights are 9007st. just installed mine, they are the bomb.

02-23-2004, 03:00 AM	#19
TicketRed03 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Simi Valley, SoCal Posts: 110	The Sylvania's are not the same as silver star's are they? If not, are the sylvania lights as good as the silver stars? __________________ 03 Torch Red Mach 1, 5-speed w/ IUP PERFORMANCE: Magnaflow cat-back MRT short throw shifter K&N AirCharger MRT Catted H-pipe APPEARANCE: MGW-cigarette lighter MGW-e-brake handle MGW-A/C knobs MRT Street Performance Springs

02-23-2004, 05:39 AM	#20
281CJ Mach1 Blaise Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Clarksville, TN Posts: 513	My 899 Silverstar fogs keep burning out. Getting expensive. Which fogs are people using? I'm thinking about the wattage and what not....maybe it's too much for the 899s to handle. Sylvania makes the Silverstars and also makes the factory bulbs that came in your Mach. __________________ 2004 Competition Orange Cobra Coupe SOLD - K&N FIPK - Magnaflow Magnapack catback - MGW Shifter - Solid axle with 3.73s - 18" DD FR500s w/ 275/35 and 295/35 Kuhmo MXs - BilletFlow 2.93 upper and 4 idlers - Diablo Predator. Tuned by James@RWTD 11.8 @ 120 w/ the old IRS on 275/50-15 Nitto DRs.

02-23-2004, 10:49 AM	#21
2k4mach LuLz Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cedar Park, TX Posts: 19,294	im having the same problem, my silverstars in my fogs keep burning out about once a month they go out, im ready to go back to stock bulbs for the fogs 20 bux a bulb is starting to get expensive, ive checked out the wattage, it is the same on the silverstars as the stock bulbs 37.5w for our fogs __________________ 11 Sterling gray GT500 coupe 08 Silver Z06 1058rwhp/1073rwt @ 15psi 14 Silver Q50S Vortech blown 04 DSG Mach 1 (stolen) 03 OW Mach 1 (sitting in a field rotting away)

02-23-2004, 10:59 AM	#22
Mustanganatic Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Blasdell, New York Posts: 681	Thanks for the heads up on the fogs... looks like I won't be getting them.

02-23-2004, 01:18 PM	#23
TicketRed03 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Simi Valley, SoCal Posts: 110	Is anybody having any luck with the fog lamps from silver star lasting more than a month? I would like to get them, but I would like to hear someone who has had some luck with the fog lamps first. Thanks __________________ 03 Torch Red Mach 1, 5-speed w/ IUP PERFORMANCE: Magnaflow cat-back MRT short throw shifter K&N AirCharger MRT Catted H-pipe APPEARANCE: MGW-cigarette lighter MGW-e-brake handle MGW-A/C knobs MRT Street Performance Springs

02-23-2004, 03:47 PM	#24
SVTSnake Mach Freak Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Pasadena MD USA Posts: 560	I haven't had the fogs for a month yet, so I will post back when a month is up! You guys aren't touching the glass of the bulbs with your fingers are you? If you are, that is why they are burning out. They are just like a quartz bulb. Grease from your fingers causes the bulbs to prematurally burn out.... __________________ Gone, but NOT forgotten... 2003 Mach 1 - Zinc Yellow Born 06/12/03, VIN# 436142 5 Speed, IUP 312 HP, 321 FT. LBS. TRQ. (5/10/05)

02-23-2004, 05:05 PM	#25
2k4mach LuLz Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cedar Park, TX Posts: 19,294	i havent touched the glass on them i do run my fogs when its overcast during the day, but that little bit of added use shouldnt be causing them to burn out so quickly

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