Looking for a change Mac vs borla - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

Mudd92 · 08-16-2010, 06:28 PM

Ive currently got BBK Lt's BBK orx and a mac catback. Dont get me wrong, love the sound. But i think im ready for something a little different.

Im looking at getting a borla stinger catback, Im wanting to know if anyone could tell me does it have a little less drone than the mac?

also, which one is generally louder?

I am mainly trying to cut down on interior noise a little bit and wondering if the stingers may be the answer.

Thanks.

SparksMach1 · 08-16-2010, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mudd92

Ive currently got BBK Lt's BBK orx and a mac catback. Dont get me wrong, love the sound. But i think im ready for something a little different.

Im looking at getting a borla stinger catback, Im wanting to know if anyone could tell me does it have a little less drone than the mac?

also, which one is generally louder?

I am mainly trying to cut down on interior noise a little bit and wondering if the stingers may be the answer.

Thanks.

I've heard the mac 3" catback and it is freaking loud... sounds amazing though, my borla catback is a ton louder on the outside than it seems in the car. Cruising on the highway isn't bad at all. A/C on and on the highway at 75mph it doesn't give me a headache and I can still hold a conversation easily talking normally.

Mudd92 · 08-16-2010, 08:35 PM

Yeah, mine is 2.5" But around 65 - up, it gets to the point its a little obnoxious after a while, around 75 I have to talk a little loud to clearly understand everyone.

We'll see hopefully some other guys have some opinions.

R.Shackleford · 08-16-2010, 09:10 PM

In my experience straight through mufflers seem to resonate less in the interior, but IMO there's always going to be drone above 2K-ish RPM when you're not running cats. For experience, I've had SLP LM1s, Mac, and Magnapacks on this car. I really can't say I could tell a difference between loudness while cruising above 70 with any of the set ups, they were all loud, the straight throughs just have a different way of being loud.

311-420 · 08-17-2010, 12:35 AM

The packs I just took off my car with my o/r x droned waaay harder than my super 44s do. At 2k rpm on the highway, if you even breathe on the gas pedal get ready for some loud azz drone.

Mudd92 · 08-17-2010, 07:11 AM

Well I generally like the loudness, but just like said above, the drone is starting to get old.

So even though all setups will have a little, you think the straight throughs (borla) will be alot more forgiving than the chambered like my MAC for interior. Is pretty much what everyones saying?

Monster Mach · 08-17-2010, 08:52 AM

cheaper and cooler... DYNAMAT!!! get rid of all the drone into your car so you can whisper.

Mudd92 · 08-17-2010, 09:24 AM

lol

Furinox · 08-17-2010, 01:15 PM

any of the larger body straight through mufflers will have less drone but they will be a bit quieter. I'll never run anything again except a full size magnaflow or a full size borla. They have the perfect sound/loudness with an o/r pipe.

SHAKEN 661 · 08-17-2010, 01:25 PM

I have Borla Stingers with o/r x and with the cruise set @ 70 or above, There is hardly any drone. You can actually carry on a conversation, and/or listen to some tunes...But, if the car drops to 65 the drone is horrible! I was actually thinking about going to one of borlas more quiet mufflers. Its hard to even get on the car in town, since u can hear it 10 blocks away (cops love it!)...and I wanna put longtubes on sometime. Haha!

311-420 · 08-17-2010, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Monster Mach

cheaper and cooler... DYNAMAT!!!

and heavier. and alot of money. and you have to pull up the carpet and seats if you want it done correctly.

rugs04mach · 08-17-2010, 01:57 PM

i agree - the stingers with long tubes and catted x are loud - driving around town you have to be 1/4 throttle or less - apparently it sounds good because im always getting compliments

Mudd92 · 08-17-2010, 02:38 PM

Do you guys thing its louder than the mac?

Thanks.

MAD_MACh1 · 08-25-2010, 08:15 PM

A little late to the party but here is my 2 pennys.

My wife's car runs Stingers with a UPR catted X pipe. Highway speeds are just a tick loud with 4.10s. Her car is a GT so it has less overdrive than a Mach1. 0.68 for a GT vs. 0.62 for a Mach IIRC. I'm currrently running Magnaflows with an O/R h pipe on my Mach. My Mach is a little better at highway speeds than hers, but the mid pipes about even it out. I had Macs on my old Fox body and they droned a lot compaired to either of these systems. I actualy replaced the Macs with the Magnaflow system on my Fox before swaping it to the Mach because of the Mac's drone. Pro Chambers and H pipes are more apt to drone than a good X pipe. For the record I hate BBK X pipes. If you compair them to a UPR or Dr. Gas (My personal favorite) they look more like 2 Us back to back than a X. The BBK pipes get an really odd sound to them compaired to others. My Dr. Gas pipe I had on my Fox was the smoothest sounding I've ever had. Sounded like I was running twice as many RPM as I was, but didn't have that raspy sound a lot of the others have.

WNTAMACH1 · 08-26-2010, 08:54 AM

I've m in the same boat, trying to find something that won't be to loud and very little drone with my o/r x pipe. Let us know what you decide!! What do people think about the Adreniline SSS exhaust? It's a straight through.

mach1child · 08-26-2010, 03:26 PM

I have an o/r x pipe with a Magnafow Magnapack catback, the drone is very little. Going around town is fine, but when i want to get on it its hard because the sound travels for MILES.

Nekasrof · 08-26-2010, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Monster Mach

cheaper and cooler... DYNAMAT!!! get rid of all the drone into your car so you can whisper.

Uh, no it doesn't. Doesn't do a dam'd thing. NOTHING. I have 80lbs of Dynamat Extreme in mine which I put in the car when it was 3 days old. Just put up the windows, it will work 1000% better than DYNAMAT. TOTAL waste of money. And if you don't believe me, you are welcome to come for a ride. 101db at the rear view mirror measured at WOT @ 3k.

WNTAMACH1 · 08-26-2010, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mach1child

I have an o/r x pipe with a Magnafow Magnapack catback, the drone is very little. Going around town is fine, but when i want to get on it its hard because the sound travels for MILES.

But you like it right?

gamatt · 08-26-2010, 08:49 PM

I have a 2 1/2" catted X and when I bought the car it had a MAC catback, loved the tone, but way to freaking loud and too much drone. Switched to SSS Adrenaline (said to be similar to Borla Stingers), even better tone, somewhat quieter and a little less drone. Finally now I have the full size Magnaflow catback and it's just right. Still nice tone, loud enough when you get on it and just a slight drone at 2k rpms.

mach1child · 08-26-2010, 09:58 PM

yea i like it, i get a lot of compliments on it too. i just try to limit my driving at night though, cops lol.

DanB · 08-27-2010, 12:53 AM

do borla i have the mac and after 10-20k the mufflers start to come apart and sound like poo

Kelly@Livernois · 08-27-2010, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DanB

do borla i have the mac and after 10-20k the mufflers start to come apart and sound like poo

Ding Ding

Mac mufflers sound incredible, but I think my one year old could make a muffler that would last longer.

mach1metalhead · 08-27-2010, 01:23 AM

fwiw, my .02 is that Borla is the way to go.

i have Mac Longtubes, a Mac O/R Prochamber, and Borla Stingers and at a steady load (cruise control) it's almost as quiet in the car as when it was just the Stingers. under load...

i get compliments all the time on my set up and i wouldn't change a thing about it.

WNTAMACH1 · 08-27-2010, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by gamatt

I have a 2 1/2" catted X and when I bought the car it had a MAC catback, loved the tone, but way to freaking loud and too much drone. Switched to SSS Adrenaline (said to be similar to Borla Stingers), even better tone, somewhat quieter and a little less drone. Finally now I have the full size Magnaflow catback and it's just right. Still nice tone, loud enough when you get on it and just a slight drone at 2k rpms.

I cant decide on those 3! Keep thinking SSS.

f8lmach · 09-07-2010, 11:13 PM

The answer to your question is.... Get headers

lol

my mac only drones right at 2k and since im pretty young so i dont mind it much. Oh fwiw i have full mac.

and putting the windows up doesnt seem to help, could be me i guess.

08-16-2010, 06:28 PM	#1
Mudd92 03 Mach Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 1,396	Looking for a change Mac vs borla Ive currently got BBK Lt's BBK orx and a mac catback. Dont get me wrong, love the sound. But i think im ready for something a little different. Im looking at getting a borla stinger catback, Im wanting to know if anyone could tell me does it have a little less drone than the mac? also, which one is generally louder? I am mainly trying to cut down on interior noise a little bit and wondering if the stingers may be the answer. Thanks. __________________ -03 AB Mach 5spd Accufab TB, BBK LT's, BBK O/R X, Mac Catback, JLT RAI, 98 Cobra intake cams, EBC redstuff pads, slotted drilled rotors, 31 spline mosers, 31 spline cobra posi, 3" studs, FRPP 3:73, welded tubes, smoked tails. Eaton swap! 465hp,425tq @ 15deg and 3.4pulley @ 10lb. T56 magnum! - Tuned by Eric Brooks! Built motor coming soon -95 Chevy C1500 5.7 auto Stock, tow rig and DD. -Joey

08-16-2010, 08:35 PM	#3
Mudd92 03 Mach Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 1,396	Re: Looking for a change Mac vs borla Yeah, mine is 2.5" But around 65 - up, it gets to the point its a little obnoxious after a while, around 75 I have to talk a little loud to clearly understand everyone. We'll see hopefully some other guys have some opinions. __________________ -03 AB Mach 5spd Accufab TB, BBK LT's, BBK O/R X, Mac Catback, JLT RAI, 98 Cobra intake cams, EBC redstuff pads, slotted drilled rotors, 31 spline mosers, 31 spline cobra posi, 3" studs, FRPP 3:73, welded tubes, smoked tails. Eaton swap! 465hp,425tq @ 15deg and 3.4pulley @ 10lb. T56 magnum! - Tuned by Eric Brooks! Built motor coming soon -95 Chevy C1500 5.7 auto Stock, tow rig and DD. -Joey

08-16-2010, 09:10 PM	#4
R.Shackleford Road Racin' Mach 1 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: CA Posts: 1,402	Re: Looking for a change Mac vs borla In my experience straight through mufflers seem to resonate less in the interior, but IMO there's always going to be drone above 2K-ish RPM when you're not running cats. For experience, I've had SLP LM1s, Mac, and Magnapacks on this car. I really can't say I could tell a difference between loudness while cruising above 70 with any of the set ups, they were all loud, the straight throughs just have a different way of being loud. __________________ SOLD ... 2003 Mach 1 5spd IUP YouTube.com/a707 MGW Shifter : SCT : Pypes O/R X : Magnapack cat-back : K&N Filter : H&R SS Springs : Tokico D-specs : MM CC Plates : Anthracite Shelby Torq-Thrust M 17x9 -- Falken RT615 275/40

08-17-2010, 12:35 AM	#5
311-420 Can't be bridled Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 7,006	Re: Looking for a change Mac vs borla The packs I just took off my car with my o/r x droned waaay harder than my super 44s do. At 2k rpm on the highway, if you even breathe on the gas pedal get ready for some loud azz drone. __________________ 2004 Mach 1 #6956 5spd w/IUP Eaton swap, longtubes, built 3.73 SRA 452hp/409tq dynojet🏁

08-17-2010, 07:11 AM	#6
Mudd92 03 Mach Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 1,396	Re: Looking for a change Mac vs borla Well I generally like the loudness, but just like said above, the drone is starting to get old. So even though all setups will have a little, you think the straight throughs (borla) will be alot more forgiving than the chambered like my MAC for interior. Is pretty much what everyones saying? __________________ -03 AB Mach 5spd Accufab TB, BBK LT's, BBK O/R X, Mac Catback, JLT RAI, 98 Cobra intake cams, EBC redstuff pads, slotted drilled rotors, 31 spline mosers, 31 spline cobra posi, 3" studs, FRPP 3:73, welded tubes, smoked tails. Eaton swap! 465hp,425tq @ 15deg and 3.4pulley @ 10lb. T56 magnum! - Tuned by Eric Brooks! Built motor coming soon -95 Chevy C1500 5.7 auto Stock, tow rig and DD. -Joey

08-17-2010, 08:52 AM	#7
Monster Mach Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Endicott New York now maryland ft wash for work Posts: 1,123	Re: Looking for a change Mac vs borla cheaper and cooler... DYNAMAT!!! get rid of all the drone into your car so you can whisper. __________________ 04 mach 1 Oxford white For h.i.d's dont buy ddm or hid guy.. buy vvme.com they are the best and by far the cheapest

08-17-2010, 09:24 AM	#8
Mudd92 03 Mach Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 1,396	Re: Looking for a change Mac vs borla lol __________________ -03 AB Mach 5spd Accufab TB, BBK LT's, BBK O/R X, Mac Catback, JLT RAI, 98 Cobra intake cams, EBC redstuff pads, slotted drilled rotors, 31 spline mosers, 31 spline cobra posi, 3" studs, FRPP 3:73, welded tubes, smoked tails. Eaton swap! 465hp,425tq @ 15deg and 3.4pulley @ 10lb. T56 magnum! - Tuned by Eric Brooks! Built motor coming soon -95 Chevy C1500 5.7 auto Stock, tow rig and DD. -Joey

08-17-2010, 01:15 PM	#9
Furinox Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 1,021	Re: Looking for a change Mac vs borla any of the larger body straight through mufflers will have less drone but they will be a bit quieter. I'll never run anything again except a full size magnaflow or a full size borla. They have the perfect sound/loudness with an o/r pipe. __________________ ________________________________________ Forged Shortblock with Ported Eaton using custom mounting brackets. More information here www.never2fast.net

08-17-2010, 01:25 PM	#10
SHAKEN 661 "Stream-line Butterfly" Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Where its summer 3 months out of the year, PA Posts: 690	Re: Looking for a change Mac vs borla I have Borla Stingers with o/r x and with the cruise set @ 70 or above, There is hardly any drone. You can actually carry on a conversation, and/or listen to some tunes...But, if the car drops to 65 the drone is horrible! I was actually thinking about going to one of borlas more quiet mufflers. Its hard to even get on the car in town, since u can hear it 10 blocks away (cops love it!)...and I wanna put longtubes on sometime. Haha! __________________ 03 TR Cobra

08-17-2010, 01:57 PM	#12
rugs04mach Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Long Valley, New Jersey Posts: 253	Re: Looking for a change Mac vs borla i agree - the stingers with long tubes and catted x are loud - driving around town you have to be 1/4 throttle or less - apparently it sounds good because im always getting compliments __________________ Eibach Pro Kit springs Silver FR500 18x9 18x10 265/35/18 295/35/18 Vredestein's MGW shifter Borla Stinger cat back cobra mirrors Aluminator/Kenne-Bell American Racing headers/catted x pipe Mcleod RXT twin disc Built TR3650 by Astro Performance tuned by Chris Rose

08-17-2010, 02:38 PM	#13
Mudd92 03 Mach Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 1,396	Re: Looking for a change Mac vs borla Do you guys thing its louder than the mac? Thanks. __________________ -03 AB Mach 5spd Accufab TB, BBK LT's, BBK O/R X, Mac Catback, JLT RAI, 98 Cobra intake cams, EBC redstuff pads, slotted drilled rotors, 31 spline mosers, 31 spline cobra posi, 3" studs, FRPP 3:73, welded tubes, smoked tails. Eaton swap! 465hp,425tq @ 15deg and 3.4pulley @ 10lb. T56 magnum! - Tuned by Eric Brooks! Built motor coming soon -95 Chevy C1500 5.7 auto Stock, tow rig and DD. -Joey

08-25-2010, 08:15 PM	#14
MAD_MACh1 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Wyoming, MI Posts: 425	Re: Looking for a change Mac vs borla A little late to the party but here is my 2 pennys. My wife's car runs Stingers with a UPR catted X pipe. Highway speeds are just a tick loud with 4.10s. Her car is a GT so it has less overdrive than a Mach1. 0.68 for a GT vs. 0.62 for a Mach IIRC. I'm currrently running Magnaflows with an O/R h pipe on my Mach. My Mach is a little better at highway speeds than hers, but the mid pipes about even it out. I had Macs on my old Fox body and they droned a lot compaired to either of these systems. I actualy replaced the Macs with the Magnaflow system on my Fox before swaping it to the Mach because of the Mac's drone. Pro Chambers and H pipes are more apt to drone than a good X pipe. For the record I hate BBK X pipes. If you compair them to a UPR or Dr. Gas (My personal favorite) they look more like 2 Us back to back than a X. The BBK pipes get an really odd sound to them compaired to others. My Dr. Gas pipe I had on my Fox was the smoothest sounding I've ever had. Sounded like I was running twice as many RPM as I was, but didn't have that raspy sound a lot of the others have.

08-26-2010, 08:54 AM	#15
WNTAMACH1 WNTAMACH1 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 2,394	Re: Looking for a change Mac vs borla I've m in the same boat, trying to find something that won't be to loud and very little drone with my o/r x pipe. Let us know what you decide!! What do people think about the Adreniline SSS exhaust? It's a straight through. __________________ 2004 Ford Mustang Mach 1-315 RWHP/ 336 RWTQ 2013 Ford Mustang GT 5.0 Auto- 421/406 SOLD 2013 Ford Taurus SHO PP - Daily Driver

08-26-2010, 03:26 PM	#16
mach1child Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Federal Way, Washington Posts: 683	Re: Looking for a change Mac vs borla I have an o/r x pipe with a Magnafow Magnapack catback, the drone is very little. Going around town is fine, but when i want to get on it its hard because the sound travels for MILES.

08-26-2010, 08:49 PM	#19
gamatt Mustang Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dacula, GA Posts: 963	Re: Looking for a change Mac vs borla I have a 2 1/2" catted X and when I bought the car it had a MAC catback, loved the tone, but way to freaking loud and too much drone. Switched to SSS Adrenaline (said to be similar to Borla Stingers), even better tone, somewhat quieter and a little less drone. Finally now I have the full size Magnaflow catback and it's just right. Still nice tone, loud enough when you get on it and just a slight drone at 2k rpms.

08-26-2010, 09:58 PM	#20
mach1child Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Federal Way, Washington Posts: 683	Re: Looking for a change Mac vs borla yea i like it, i get a lot of compliments on it too. i just try to limit my driving at night though, cops lol.

08-27-2010, 12:53 AM	#21
DanB 1 man Army Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Phoenix Posts: 2,955	Re: Looking for a change Mac vs borla do borla i have the mac and after 10-20k the mufflers start to come apart and sound like poo __________________ Dan

08-27-2010, 01:23 AM	#23
mach1metalhead Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,065	Re: Looking for a change Mac vs borla fwiw, my .02 is that Borla is the way to go. i have Mac Longtubes, a Mac O/R Prochamber, and Borla Stingers and at a steady load (cruise control) it's almost as quiet in the car as when it was just the Stingers. under load... i get compliments all the time on my set up and i wouldn't change a thing about it. __________________ 03 Mach (Auto) JLT RAI - 1/2" Intake Spacer - Mac longtubes - Mac Prochamber - Borla cat-back - PA Racing k-member - Energy Suspension motor mounts - Eibach Sportline springs - Eibach anti-roll kit - SPC caster/camber kit - Steeda X2 ball-joints - Steeda strut tower bar - Eibach 1" wheel spacers (rear only)

09-07-2010, 11:13 PM	#25
f8lmach Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Lorton, VA Posts: 29	Re: Looking for a change Mac vs borla The answer to your question is.... Get headers lol my mac only drones right at 2k and since im pretty young so i dont mind it much. Oh fwiw i have full mac. and putting the windows up doesnt seem to help, could be me i guess.

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