what supercharger to get - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

GreatOne99 · 07-04-2007, 09:34 PM

have about 5500 to spend what supercharger and where to get it from. ps my motor interinals are all stock plus are my 410s too much gear now.i am leaning towards a procharger looking for about 450 rwhp and maybe 430 for torque,also do the kits come with everthing i will need.my only other problem is the closest dyno tuner is 1 hour away can i get the mach there without killing the motor with the new supercharger installed.

blown03Mach1 · 07-04-2007, 11:18 PM

The 4.10's will work great with any centi compressor! Remember the centi needs the engine rpm to build your boost so the gears work great with that combo. As far as which type of S/C to get, well that would depend on what you are planning on using it for. To me the posi units (KB, Eatons etc) are better street racing s/c as they deliver the torque down low so you get a better seat of the pants feel. IMHO the centi is a better track s/c and also IMHO I think that the centi is easier on your motors internals as the torque gains are linear to rpm. You will see numerous post about blown motors, but that is mostly bad tunes or people who got greedy with the hp/boost. I am pushing 458 on a mustang dyno and I think I am on borrowed time. I did run 403rw for over a year and have zero problems on my stock internals. Engine life will also depend on how hard you are on your motor after you get boosted.

If I had to do it over... Procharger D1 on the stock motor with a very conservative tune would be my choice.

FstMach04 · 07-05-2007, 12:15 AM

I don't think you can go wrong with either Vortech or Procharger. Just find the best deal. However, I had a vortech, and know for a fact the install was moderately easy, according to my installer. The procharger, from what I've heard and read, seems to have more issues with fitting and ease of installation. They may have fixed this by now, though. Do your research and either company will give you what you want. 4.10's is also what I had, making almost 450 rwhp. No problems for a little over a year. However, I drove mine only about 5,000 miles during that year, so that's not too good of a comparison. Don't expect nothing to go wrong if you go forced induction. You're taking a risk, it may hold up, it may not. I think every case is unique to itself. Good luck.

jv7 · 07-05-2007, 01:03 AM

I had a KB on my 97' Cobra and wanted to try a centi on my 04' Mach, couldn't decice between a Vortech or a Procharger, but what swung me to the Procharger was the a/a intercooler vs. w/a. I'm running the 8lb pulley and with the afm powerpipe I'm seeing 10lbs. Love the Procharger, but you'll be happy with whatever you choose.

vpMach1 · 07-05-2007, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaken not Stir

The 4.10's will work great with any centi compressor! Remember the centi needs the engine rpm to build your boost so the gears work great with that combo. As far as which type of S/C to get, well that would depend on what you are planning on using it for. To me the posi units (KB, Eatons etc) are better street racing s/c as they deliver the torque down low so you get a better seat of the pants feel. IMHO the centi is a better track s/c and also IMHO I think that the centi is easier on your motors internals as the torque gains are linear to rpm. You will see numerous post about blown motors, but that is mostly bad tunes or people who got greedy with the hp/boost. I am pushing 458 on a mustang dyno and I think I am on borrowed time. I did run 403rw for over a year and have zero problems on my stock internals. Engine life will also depend on how hard you are on your motor after you get boosted.

If I had to do it over... Procharger D1 on the stock motor with a very conservative tune would be my choice.

I just ordered a P1 because I will not be doing any internals for a long time. You said if you would do it over again, you would get a D1 with conservative tune. Why? For future mods or better performance?

Scott McClure · 07-05-2007, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by vpMach1

I just ordered a P1 because I will not be doing any internals for a long time. You said if you would do it over again, you would get a D1 with conservative tune. Why? For future mods or better performance?

Because the D1 is like $200.00 more now to upgrade and its about $1000.00 later on. Like everyone else you will want more power to the point where the P1 wont be enough. You can pulley the D1 now for 10 lbs. of boost until you do some better internals later on. I was a fool for not going the P1 in the first place last year but it wouldn't have mattered anyways since I ended up with the Kenne Bell.

Scott McClure · 07-05-2007, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by GreatOne99

have about 5500 to spend what supercharger and where to get it from. ps my motor interinals are all stock plus are my 410s too much gear now.i am leaning towards a procharger looking for about 450 rwhp and maybe 430 for torque,also do the kits come with everthing i will need.my only other problem is the closest dyno tuner is 1 hour away can i get the mach there without killing the motor with the new supercharger installed.

Go with a Procharger or a Vortech. Either one will be fine. You will have to get some sort of base tune to compensate for your injectors and or a MAF to be able to drive it to a tuner. You wont hurt the motor as long as you were to stay out of boost.

vpMach1 · 07-05-2007, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott McClure

Because the D1 is like $200.00 more now to upgrade and its about $1000.00 later on. Like everyone else you will want more power to the point where the P1 wont be enough. You can pulley the D1 now for 10 lbs. of boost until you do some better internals later on. I was a fool for not going the P1 in the first place last year but it wouldn't have mattered anyways since I ended up with the Kenne Bell.

I have only seen the upgrade for $400 more, where is the $200 price?

Scott McClure · 07-05-2007, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by vpMach1

I have only seen the upgrade for $400 more, where is the $200 price?

Sorry but I wasn't sure on the price. The point was it's a lot cheaper now rather than later.

Thor · 07-05-2007, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GreatOne99

have about 5500 to spend what supercharger and where to get it from. ps my motor interinals are all stock plus are my 410s too much gear now.i am leaning towards a procharger looking for about 450 rwhp and maybe 430 for torque,also do the kits come with everthing i will need.my only other problem is the closest dyno tuner is 1 hour away can i get the mach there without killing the motor with the new supercharger installed.

ProCharger has my $$$... The Dynoshop was an hour away, but I trailered the vehicle there just to be safe.

Turbostang · 07-05-2007, 02:58 PM

Hellion

Just joking Procharger or Kenne Bell get my vote,but either way you will be happy

cmylxgo · 07-05-2007, 03:40 PM

P1SC-2 or a D1SC. 10-12lbs on a stock motor and 4.10s will rock for a long time.

-Corey

eenster · 07-05-2007, 07:18 PM

vortech with meth injection!!! well thats what im doing.

ponygt65 · 07-05-2007, 07:21 PM

WIth only $5500.....I would look for a used Procharger here. You will need some of the $$ to be used for the fuel system, tune, and install. New kits are ~$4300.

However, that is just my opinion.

8-10 psi for 450rwhp Dynojet power....driving moderately with a nice tune (good timing and A/F, pending your octane).

oxwhite03mach · 07-06-2007, 04:54 AM

used D1 gets my vote. Just make sure the kit is complete... get pictures.... and make sure it doesnt leak.

BONESTOCK · 07-06-2007, 07:19 AM

I'm running the P1SC-2 and am making 465rwhp 409rwtq. I also have 4:30's in. But I'm going to switch to a 3:73 gear cause I'm going big boost in the future. hahaha

Also....call the tuner. He should be able to send you a handheld like SCT Xcal 2 with a tune on it to allow you to drive your car to the tuner OUT of boost.

The car will not run properly if at all without some type of tune in it. New injectors and all.

07-04-2007, 09:34 PM	#1
GreatOne99 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: groveland ma Posts: 395	what supercharger to get have about 5500 to spend what supercharger and where to get it from. ps my motor interinals are all stock plus are my 410s too much gear now.i am leaning towards a procharger looking for about 450 rwhp and maybe 430 for torque,also do the kits come with everthing i will need.my only other problem is the closest dyno tuner is 1 hour away can i get the mach there without killing the motor with the new supercharger installed.

07-04-2007, 11:18 PM	#2
blown03Mach1 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: FL Posts: 3,491	Re: what supercharger to get The 4.10's will work great with any centi compressor! Remember the centi needs the engine rpm to build your boost so the gears work great with that combo. As far as which type of S/C to get, well that would depend on what you are planning on using it for. To me the posi units (KB, Eatons etc) are better street racing s/c as they deliver the torque down low so you get a better seat of the pants feel. IMHO the centi is a better track s/c and also IMHO I think that the centi is easier on your motors internals as the torque gains are linear to rpm. You will see numerous post about blown motors, but that is mostly bad tunes or people who got greedy with the hp/boost. I am pushing 458 on a mustang dyno and I think I am on borrowed time. I did run 403rw for over a year and have zero problems on my stock internals. Engine life will also depend on how hard you are on your motor after you get boosted. If I had to do it over... Procharger D1 on the stock motor with a very conservative tune would be my choice. __________________ "It's not having what you want, It's wanting what you've got!" Money may not grow on trees, but it sure as heck got planted in my Mach!

07-05-2007, 12:15 AM	#3
FstMach04 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 352	Re: what supercharger to get I don't think you can go wrong with either Vortech or Procharger. Just find the best deal. However, I had a vortech, and know for a fact the install was moderately easy, according to my installer. The procharger, from what I've heard and read, seems to have more issues with fitting and ease of installation. They may have fixed this by now, though. Do your research and either company will give you what you want. 4.10's is also what I had, making almost 450 rwhp. No problems for a little over a year. However, I drove mine only about 5,000 miles during that year, so that's not too good of a comparison. Don't expect nothing to go wrong if you go forced induction. You're taking a risk, it may hold up, it may not. I think every case is unique to itself. Good luck. __________________ 2004 Azure Mach 1 - SOLD - absolutely stupidest thing I've EVER done!!! Vortech Supercharger, MGW Orange Handle Shifter, Bassani X-Pipe w/ Hi-Flo Cats, Magnapacks Catback, 4.10's, Eibach Springs, SubFrame Connectors, AFS Mach 1 Wheels- 17X9 Front 17X10.5 Rear, Smoked Fog Lights, Matte Black Hood, Honeycomb Trim Panel, Black Letters. 447.9 RWHP 400.1 RWTQ

07-05-2007, 01:03 AM	#4
jv7 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Round Rock, TX Posts: 678	Re: what supercharger to get I had a KB on my 97' Cobra and wanted to try a centi on my 04' Mach, couldn't decice between a Vortech or a Procharger, but what swung me to the Procharger was the a/a intercooler vs. w/a. I'm running the 8lb pulley and with the afm powerpipe I'm seeing 10lbs. Love the Procharger, but you'll be happy with whatever you choose.

07-05-2007, 02:58 PM	#11
Turbostang Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: League City,Tx Posts: 482	Re: what supercharger to get Hellion Just joking Procharger or Kenne Bell get my vote,but either way you will be happy

07-05-2007, 03:40 PM	#12
cmylxgo Blower Guru Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Motor City Posts: 2,188	Re: what supercharger to get P1SC-2 or a D1SC. 10-12lbs on a stock motor and 4.10s will rock for a long time. -Corey __________________ YouTube Videos: http://www.youtube.com/slugbitchracing 2003 Mustang Mach 1 AutoMatic (Torch Red) Born On Date: 2.28.03 Vin: 396895 Adoption Date: 9.07.09 Best ET: 9.54 Best MPH: 149.99 Best 60FT: 1.32 All done on 17" Radials

07-05-2007, 07:18 PM	#13
eenster Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: machesney park,IL Posts: 333	Re: what supercharger to get vortech with meth injection!!! well thats what im doing. __________________ 03 oxford white AUTO (hand controls!) best ET stock ...13.574@102.83 now... 11.593@117.19 Kooks lt's, kooks o/r X, and a magnaflow cat back. vortech supercharger, snow proformance meth injection kit, torq converter, and a tru-cool trans cooler, 4.10's moser 31 spline axles, auburn pro 31 spline diff. afs 17x10.5 with a 315 BFG DR out back!

07-05-2007, 07:21 PM	#14
ponygt65 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Madera, CA Posts: 7,651	Re: what supercharger to get WIth only $5500.....I would look for a used Procharger here. You will need some of the $$ to be used for the fuel system, tune, and install. New kits are ~$4300. However, that is just my opinion. 8-10 psi for 450rwhp Dynojet power....driving moderately with a nice tune (good timing and A/F, pending your octane). __________________ Current Stable: NO stangs.....DON'T F'ING remind me. Previous stangs: 2003 Mineral Grey Cobra Vert 1965 Factory GT K Code Coupe - mostly original and numbers matching. 14.9 (best) GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN!! 2003 MACh 1 AB - MINE!..SLP LM1s, PHP Spacer, and a CAI, that wont' stop whistling. 2004 MACh 1 DSG - PHP spacer, BOrla Stingers, K and N CAI, Tune, X-pipe, 1" 1-piece raised shaker...yadda yadda.

07-06-2007, 04:54 AM	#15
oxwhite03mach Camel Lover Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Southeast Louisiana Posts: 211	Re: what supercharger to get used D1 gets my vote. Just make sure the kit is complete... get pictures.... and make sure it doesnt leak. __________________ ~~~Oxford White 2003 Mach I 5spd IUP~~~ Procharger D1SC -60# injectors-Twin Cobra pumps-PHP P/P Intake-LDC Cooling Mod-Fidanza-DFX-T56 w/ Liberty 26 upgrade-MGW Shifter-SCT Xcal2-31 Spline Strange-3.90s-JBA,Bassani and Borla The Little Wheels

07-06-2007, 07:19 AM	#16
BONESTOCK Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: MA Posts: 1,685	Re: what supercharger to get I'm running the P1SC-2 and am making 465rwhp 409rwtq. I also have 4:30's in. But I'm going to switch to a 3:73 gear cause I'm going big boost in the future. hahaha Also....call the tuner. He should be able to send you a handheld like SCT Xcal 2 with a tune on it to allow you to drive your car to the tuner OUT of boost. The car will not run properly if at all without some type of tune in it. New injectors and all. __________________ 2004 Torch Red Mach 1 born on 03/26/04purchased on 07/14/04 465rwhp 409rwtq Let's go for a ride in my car! Procharged Dyno vid!

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