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Old 03-11-2007, 11:54 PM   #1
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Maybe a 4.10 is more ideal than a 4.30 or steeper on the streets

Like many of you are or have been, I am on the brink of purchasing/installing a gear and 4.10 or 4.30 is the continuous question of the day.

The following two maybe examples that any gear steeper than a 4.10 is too much for the streets... NOTE: None of the following cars are mine. I am simply doing research on which gear to get and found these two examples.

Example 1
Comparable bolt on Mach 1 (4.30 gear) vs bolt on 01 Cobra (3.73 gear)
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...ec01651978.htm

Example 2
Post link: http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...d.php?t=369511

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2003 Mach = 270hp w/ 289tq.

2001 Zinc Yellow Ford Cobra: Short Throw Shifter, JLT CAI, SCT Tuner, FRPP Cross Drilled Rotors, FRPP Catback Exhaust, Meguiars NXT Tech Wax
2001 Cobra = 280hp w/ 285tq
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Old 03-12-2007, 08:27 PM   #2
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Re: Maybe a 4.10 is more ideal than a 4.30 or steeper on the streets

Steep gears only work if you have complete traction.. if you spin, you're screwed... with 3.55s or 3.27s you have that topend charge and a hardcore advantage if you go from a roll instead of a stop....

Gears suck from a roll....
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Old 03-18-2007, 01:26 AM   #3
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Re: Maybe a 4.10 is more ideal than a 4.30 or steeper on the streets

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Like many of you are or have been, I am on the brink of purchasing/installing a gear and 4.10 or 4.30 is the continuous question of the day.

The following two maybe examples that any gear steeper than a 4.10 is too much for the streets... NOTE: None of the following cars are mine. I am simply doing research on which gear to get and found these two examples.

Example 1
Comparable bolt on Mach 1 (4.30 gear) vs bolt on 01 Cobra (3.73 gear)
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...ec01651978.htm

Example 2
Post link: http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...d.php?t=369511

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2003 Mach 1 - JLT RAI, Magnaflow Magnapack weld in mufflers, UPR O/R x-pipe, aluminum flywheel, Spec 3 clutch, short throw shifter, Diablo Predator basic tune, 18x10 wheels out back with some fat tires, 4.56 gears
2003 Mach = 270hp w/ 289tq.

2001 Zinc Yellow Ford Cobra: Short Throw Shifter, JLT CAI, SCT Tuner, FRPP Cross Drilled Rotors, FRPP Catback Exhaust, Meguiars NXT Tech Wax
2001 Cobra = 280hp w/ 285tq
Hey Blood on Blood that Video with the 03' Mach and 01' Cobra " Battle of the Brothers", thats me and my Little Brother Racing. The 4.30's that I have in my car do really good trust me. When I was racing him in that Video from a First Gear Punch (Bad Mistake) trust me!!!!!! I was spinning so bad in 1st gear and Horrible in 2nd gear,about the time I quit spinning and got into 3rd Gear he had done pulled me pretty good. I caught back up to his Back Bumper and before I could pull him any more (YES) I ran out of Gear!!!! thats the only down fall of those gears. From a 2nd Gear Punch though it's a different story. I was putting a Car and a 1/2 EASY!!! between us. Also I had extra weight and he was flying solo. So I should have pulled him worse than that, oh yeah and I didn't take my Belt off the front either,since I have a Elec.WaterPump. IF I was to do it over again I would have at least put 3 or 3 1/2 Cars in between us. It was a good Race though!!!! If you get 4.30's guy's make sure you have good Drag Radials!!!!! Trust me im learning from my mistakes.
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Old 03-18-2007, 01:35 AM   #4
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Re: Maybe a 4.10 is more ideal than a 4.30 or steeper on the streets

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Steep gears only work if you have complete traction.. if you spin, you're screwed... with 3.55s or 3.27s you have that topend charge and a hardcore advantage if you go from a roll instead of a stop....

Gears suck from a roll....
Your right gears suck from a roll IF you don't have good tires. Thats the Issue!!!! As for me and my Brother we both run Street Tires for the time being,so yeah there is going to be some traction problems. As for that Video of "Battle of the Brothers" we both have good 12 sec. cars on our hands. I can't wait to see what he will run when ever he gets some Drag Radials!!!! His 01' Cobra should run at least a 12.6 or 12.7 by seeing how it runs. For what little he has done to it, trust me it's fast. It was a fun race though. If I was to give any advise 4.10's or 4.30's would be the way to go. 4.30's are just better for the track I think or Street Racing Red Light to Red Light.
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Old 03-29-2007, 12:41 AM   #5
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Re: Maybe a 4.10 is more ideal than a 4.30 or steeper on the streets

Thanks for the responses... 4.30 is on order...
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Old 03-29-2007, 12:43 AM   #6
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Old 03-29-2007, 05:42 AM   #7
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Re: Maybe a 4.10 is more ideal than a 4.30 or steeper on the streets

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4.56's here, and I love them. I use fifth as a freeway passing gear!
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Old 03-29-2007, 10:57 AM   #8
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NEVER FEAR DA GEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Correct, but buying 4.56s for your narrow sidewall high wear rating 18inch tires is a terrible idea....
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Old 03-29-2007, 10:58 AM   #9
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Your right gears suck from a roll IF you don't have good tires. Thats the Issue!!!! As for me and my Brother we both run Street Tires for the time being,so yeah there is going to be some traction problems. As for that Video of "Battle of the Brothers" we both have good 12 sec. cars on our hands. I can't wait to see what he will run when ever he gets some Drag Radials!!!! His 01' Cobra should run at least a 12.6 or 12.7 by seeing how it runs. For what little he has done to it, trust me it's fast. It was a fun race though. If I was to give any advise 4.10's or 4.30's would be the way to go. 4.30's are just better for the track I think or Street Racing Red Light to Red Light.
Correction... you THINK it runs a 12.7 or 12.6... until you get the slip it hasn't happened yet. No offense, but I've seen situations like this so many times and so many disappointments from overestimation.
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Old 03-29-2007, 06:18 PM   #10
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Re: Maybe a 4.10 is more ideal than a 4.30 or steeper on the streets

i wish i woulda done 4.30....4.10s cool but not as much seat of the pants as i thought it did make the car easier to drive i think..
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Old 03-31-2007, 06:47 AM   #11
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Re: Maybe a 4.10 is more ideal than a 4.30 or steeper on the streets

4:30 for me, and i love every honda that stops at the light with me. lol
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Old 03-31-2007, 12:04 PM   #12
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Re: Maybe a 4.10 is more ideal than a 4.30 or steeper on the streets

Curious here.

The video shows a Red Cobra, the description lists a Zinc Yellow one.

As for the Cobra running 12.6-12.7, I really don't think that is too much of an if. Sticy tires, 3.73's, and a tune. Should be there. My brothers 99 Cobra went 13.2 completely stock with some crappy General tires out back.
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