Kenne Bell twin screw!!! - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

Madmax305 · 09-20-2006, 08:58 PM

Thinking of changing over to the Kenne Bell 2.1 twin screw. My wife gave me the ok as long as I sell my procharger first. Any thoughts, good or bad. I am gathering information at this point and I will be selling my Procharger supercharger stuff in a few weeks...

BlueDevil04 · 09-21-2006, 12:30 AM

how much do you plan on selling the procharger for?

Madmax305 · 09-21-2006, 11:50 AM

I've researced other posts and It seems the kits are reselling for around $3,000. I will have a few extra parts in the kit, like extra pulleys, a power pipe, lightning maf and extra procharger parts.

sampson101st · 09-21-2006, 12:28 PM

i would be interested in the power pipe if you would see it seperate.

stampde · 09-21-2006, 12:54 PM

dude, you wont believe the throttle response of the Kenne Bell , its JUST AWESOME !!! My friend's a dealer so I've had the opertunity to ride in and drive a few of his cars, all with KB's on them , just freakin Nasty !!!

the black mamba · 09-21-2006, 01:01 PM

Are KBs good for Daily Drivers?

jganow · 09-21-2006, 01:23 PM

I personally would go KB. Instant power and throttle response and they sound so cool. You're a lucky man if your wife gave you the OK!!!

jganow · 09-21-2006, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by the black mamba

Are KBs good for Daily Drivers?

They should be with a proper tune.

o3BlueMach1 · 09-21-2006, 02:00 PM

since you have a built motor I would go with the 2.6L if possible, the larger ones work better with higher boost and higher displacement

Madmax305 · 09-21-2006, 02:48 PM

At this point guys, I would prefer to the procharger as a complete kit...I will post the kit in the classifieds in a few weeks...

jganow · 09-21-2006, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by o3BlueMach1

since you have a built motor I would go with the 2.6L if possible, the larger ones work better with higher boost and higher displacement

I don't think the 2.6 works with our cars because of the shaker. It doesn't fit. The 2.1 would still have great boost up to 17 lbs. If you go more, you may get slippage.

ponygt65 · 09-22-2006, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jganow

You're a lucky man if your wife gave you the OK!!!

It's funny you say that. My wife is kicking herself in tha a$$ for getting the extended warranty. SHE is the one that wants the KB installed. But she doesn't want to waste the warranty, and warranty money.

TheBlkMach1 · 09-22-2006, 12:57 AM

Wouldn't really seem worth the time and money to swap to a KB to me. You can make just as much power with a Procharger as you could a KB. The only difference is the torque and let's be real, on the street your tires can only handle so much torque, so fast. The tq. slope for a Procharger is much more street friendly. Now if you were going turbo then i'd say go for it.

NUMACHI · 09-22-2006, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBlkMach1

Wouldn't really seem worth the time and money to swap to a KB to me. You can make just as much power with a Procharger as you could a KB. The only difference is the torque and let's be real, on the street your tires can only handle so much torque, so fast. The tq. slope for a Procharger is much more street friendly. Now if you were going turbo then i'd say go for it.

o3BlueMach1 · 09-22-2006, 11:25 AM

yeah go turbo! hellion turbo kits are cheaper than KB intercooled kits!
www.hellionpowersystems.com

Madmax305 · 09-22-2006, 11:26 AM

I appreciate all comments, keep them coming!!

jganow · 09-22-2006, 01:17 PM

Turbo would be awesome especially since you have the setup to do it. You won't have that low end power. How much boost are you running now? Do you have the P1 or the D1?

Madmax305 · 09-22-2006, 03:58 PM

I'm running 10lbs of boost right now and it is a P1sc. I was debating to swithch over to an 8 rib belt so I could run more boost without belt slip. With the current set up, I got 510rwhp and 460rwtq with 10 lbs of boost at 5000 rpms. The tuner could not get a full pull to 6500 rpm due to the 3.4 pulley, (belt slip).

Drenath · 09-22-2006, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Madmax305

I'm running 10lbs of boost right now and it is a P1sc.

Bah just get an F1 head unit!

spinincube · 09-23-2006, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ponygt65

It's funny you say that. My wife is kicking herself in tha a$$ for getting the extended warranty. SHE is the one that wants the KB installed. But she doesn't want to waste the warranty, and warranty money.

can u just install supercharger and if u have a problem just take it off?

o3BlueMach1 · 09-23-2006, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by spinincube

can u just install supercharger and if u have a problem just take it off?

you could, but s/c installs take a bit of time....

you know you can cancel a extended warranty and get alot of the money back right?

jganow · 09-23-2006, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Madmax305

I'm running 10lbs of boost right now and it is a P1sc. I was debating to swithch over to an 8 rib belt so I could run more boost without belt slip. With the current set up, I got 510rwhp and 460rwtq with 10 lbs of boost at 5000 rpms. The tuner could not get a full pull to 6500 rpm due to the 3.4 pulley, (belt slip).

I think you can do much better than that by switching to a KB. You would have to talk to one of their techs, but now that they have the 2.1 supercharger, you can run more boost using larger pulleys. I believe if you run their 8 rib system, you can get at least 13 lbs of boost and go up to something like 17. You are going to get more bottom end power too. Another option is to switch to a D1SC or even an F1. I think a D1SC upgrade isn't that expensive.

GrimlokTT · 09-23-2006, 05:35 PM

Cancelling my extended warranty only nets me ~$400 and it goes to the lien holder, if there is one.

Linumup · 09-23-2006, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ponygt65

It's funny you say that. My wife is kicking herself in tha a$$ for getting the extended warranty. SHE is the one that wants the KB installed. But she doesn't want to waste the warranty, and warranty money.

You can at anytime cancel the extended warranty and they will pro-rate you a refund chk.. I did that myself when Ford voided my original warranty . I received my full amount .

QTRPONY · 09-23-2006, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jganow

I don't think the 2.6 works with our cars because of the shaker. It doesn't fit. The 2.1 would still have great boost up to 17 lbs. If you go more, you may get slippage.

If I remember correctly it is not the shaker that is the issue. I can't remember exactly what James at KB told me but it has to do with the length of the compressor case. On a Mach the blower pulley would be too far forward with the 2.4 & 2.6 and not line up with all the others. The biggest compressor that will work for the Mach is a 2.2 which will pump more air than the 2.1.

I have mine setting in the garage waiting for the longblock to come back from VT.

09-20-2006, 08:58 PM	#1
Madmax305 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA Posts: 1,081	Kenne Bell twin screw!!! Thinking of changing over to the Kenne Bell 2.1 twin screw. My wife gave me the ok as long as I sell my procharger first. Any thoughts, good or bad. I am gathering information at this point and I will be selling my Procharger supercharger stuff in a few weeks... __________________ MMR-950 5.0 STROKER PORT/POLISH-FRPP RACING CAMS KB 2.1 15LBS 570RWHP 550RWTQ (SAE) LDC COOLING MOD, DAVIS WP, 8-RIB BELT TKO 600 .82OD 3.55 GEARS EATON POSI/31 SPLINE AXLES COBRA TANK/PUMPS, SCT-2800 MAF, BAP 60LB INJ, FORE FUEL RAILS, -8AN FUEL LINE BASSANI HEADERS/X-PIPE CANTON 7QT PAN MM TUBULAR K-MEMBER/PANHARD BAR ALUMINUM D.S./FLYWHEEL BILSTEIN SPORT VALVE COILOVERS 4-PISTON BREMBO CALIPERS/ROTORS 18X9/18X10 CHROME BULLITS/NITTO DR'S 2001 COBRA FRONT COVER RET Tune

09-21-2006, 12:30 AM	#2
BlueDevil04 Are all Machs this Fast?? Join Date: May 2004 Location: Concord, N.C. Posts: 617	Re: Kenne Bell twin screw!!! how much do you plan on selling the procharger for? __________________ Mods: blown motor mod!!! 660 rwhp and 565 rwhp with 17lbs of boost. (sold)

09-21-2006, 11:50 AM	#3
Madmax305 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA Posts: 1,081	Re: Kenne Bell twin screw!!! I've researced other posts and It seems the kits are reselling for around $3,000. I will have a few extra parts in the kit, like extra pulleys, a power pipe, lightning maf and extra procharger parts. __________________ MMR-950 5.0 STROKER PORT/POLISH-FRPP RACING CAMS KB 2.1 15LBS 570RWHP 550RWTQ (SAE) LDC COOLING MOD, DAVIS WP, 8-RIB BELT TKO 600 .82OD 3.55 GEARS EATON POSI/31 SPLINE AXLES COBRA TANK/PUMPS, SCT-2800 MAF, BAP 60LB INJ, FORE FUEL RAILS, -8AN FUEL LINE BASSANI HEADERS/X-PIPE CANTON 7QT PAN MM TUBULAR K-MEMBER/PANHARD BAR ALUMINUM D.S./FLYWHEEL BILSTEIN SPORT VALVE COILOVERS 4-PISTON BREMBO CALIPERS/ROTORS 18X9/18X10 CHROME BULLITS/NITTO DR'S 2001 COBRA FRONT COVER RET Tune

09-21-2006, 12:28 PM	#4
sampson101st 04 mach1 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: dothan Posts: 850	Re: Kenne Bell twin screw!!! i would be interested in the power pipe if you would see it seperate. __________________ DSG 04 mach, Tuned @ Panhandle Performance NA-292rwhp/302rwtq corrected Spray- 394rwhp/405rwtq corrected 00 lightning, paid for.12lbs boost. 03 lightning, paid for.10lbs boost.

09-21-2006, 12:54 PM	#5
stampde Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Berlin ,N.J. Posts: 789	Re: Kenne Bell twin screw!!! dude, you wont believe the throttle response of the Kenne Bell , its JUST AWESOME !!! My friend's a dealer so I've had the opertunity to ride in and drive a few of his cars, all with KB's on them , just freakin Nasty !!! __________________ Flirtin' With Disaster Kooks 1 5/8 Long Tubes and off road X-Pipe Magna Flow cat back JLT cold air system Intake spacer Steeda Underdrive Pulleys Steeda Tri Ax Shifter Johnny Lightning Performance Tune/Diablo Sport Chip FRP 4.10's , Roush T/A Cover Edelbrock adjustable upper arms Edelbrock lower control arms Dyno/ 311.7 horse - 331 torque ( new dyno #'s to come ) 1/4 mile best: 12.71 et , 108.79 mph

09-21-2006, 01:01 PM	#6
the black mamba Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Salina, Kansas Posts: 75	Re: Kenne Bell twin screw!!! Are KBs good for Daily Drivers?

09-21-2006, 01:23 PM	#7
jganow Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 259	Re: Kenne Bell twin screw!!! I personally would go KB. Instant power and throttle response and they sound so cool. You're a lucky man if your wife gave you the OK!!! __________________ 2003 Azure Blue Mach Kenne Bell 2.1 - 9 lbs Bassani catted x MRT Maxthunder Catback MGW Shifter 17x8/17x9 black bullitts

09-21-2006, 02:00 PM	#9
o3BlueMach1 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fairfield, CA Posts: 510	Re: Kenne Bell twin screw!!! since you have a built motor I would go with the 2.6L if possible, the larger ones work better with higher boost and higher displacement __________________ 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 w/ IUP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_zD6QnuMPE Joined the 12 Second Club on 5-15-08! JLT RAI, PHP Spacer Magnaflow Catback, SLP X-Pipe MGW Shifter, Centerforce Dual Friction, Fidanza Flywheel, Fiores Quadrant and Adjuster Nitto 315/35/17 DR's, 10th Ann. Cobra Wheels FRPP 4.10's, Strange 31 Spline Axles, Auburn ECTED Carrier SCT XCal2, Dyno Tune from AED. 302whp,326wtq Mods Coming Soon: Thinking about an Eaton Swap...

09-21-2006, 02:48 PM	#10
Madmax305 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA Posts: 1,081	Re: Kenne Bell twin screw!!! At this point guys, I would prefer to the procharger as a complete kit...I will post the kit in the classifieds in a few weeks... __________________ MMR-950 5.0 STROKER PORT/POLISH-FRPP RACING CAMS KB 2.1 15LBS 570RWHP 550RWTQ (SAE) LDC COOLING MOD, DAVIS WP, 8-RIB BELT TKO 600 .82OD 3.55 GEARS EATON POSI/31 SPLINE AXLES COBRA TANK/PUMPS, SCT-2800 MAF, BAP 60LB INJ, FORE FUEL RAILS, -8AN FUEL LINE BASSANI HEADERS/X-PIPE CANTON 7QT PAN MM TUBULAR K-MEMBER/PANHARD BAR ALUMINUM D.S./FLYWHEEL BILSTEIN SPORT VALVE COILOVERS 4-PISTON BREMBO CALIPERS/ROTORS 18X9/18X10 CHROME BULLITS/NITTO DR'S 2001 COBRA FRONT COVER RET Tune

09-22-2006, 12:57 AM	#13
TheBlkMach1 Cobra killer. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west palm beach, FL Posts: 2,526	Re: Kenne Bell twin screw!!! Wouldn't really seem worth the time and money to swap to a KB to me. You can make just as much power with a Procharger as you could a KB. The only difference is the torque and let's be real, on the street your tires can only handle so much torque, so fast. The tq. slope for a Procharger is much more street friendly. Now if you were going turbo then i'd say go for it. __________________ Need2speeD.com

09-22-2006, 11:25 AM	#15
o3BlueMach1 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fairfield, CA Posts: 510	Re: Kenne Bell twin screw!!! yeah go turbo! hellion turbo kits are cheaper than KB intercooled kits! www.hellionpowersystems.com __________________ 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 w/ IUP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_zD6QnuMPE Joined the 12 Second Club on 5-15-08! JLT RAI, PHP Spacer Magnaflow Catback, SLP X-Pipe MGW Shifter, Centerforce Dual Friction, Fidanza Flywheel, Fiores Quadrant and Adjuster Nitto 315/35/17 DR's, 10th Ann. Cobra Wheels FRPP 4.10's, Strange 31 Spline Axles, Auburn ECTED Carrier SCT XCal2, Dyno Tune from AED. 302whp,326wtq Mods Coming Soon: Thinking about an Eaton Swap...

09-22-2006, 11:26 AM	#16
Madmax305 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA Posts: 1,081	Re: Kenne Bell twin screw!!! I appreciate all comments, keep them coming!! __________________ MMR-950 5.0 STROKER PORT/POLISH-FRPP RACING CAMS KB 2.1 15LBS 570RWHP 550RWTQ (SAE) LDC COOLING MOD, DAVIS WP, 8-RIB BELT TKO 600 .82OD 3.55 GEARS EATON POSI/31 SPLINE AXLES COBRA TANK/PUMPS, SCT-2800 MAF, BAP 60LB INJ, FORE FUEL RAILS, -8AN FUEL LINE BASSANI HEADERS/X-PIPE CANTON 7QT PAN MM TUBULAR K-MEMBER/PANHARD BAR ALUMINUM D.S./FLYWHEEL BILSTEIN SPORT VALVE COILOVERS 4-PISTON BREMBO CALIPERS/ROTORS 18X9/18X10 CHROME BULLITS/NITTO DR'S 2001 COBRA FRONT COVER RET Tune

09-22-2006, 01:17 PM	#17
jganow Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 259	Re: Kenne Bell twin screw!!! Turbo would be awesome especially since you have the setup to do it. You won't have that low end power. How much boost are you running now? Do you have the P1 or the D1? __________________ 2003 Azure Blue Mach Kenne Bell 2.1 - 9 lbs Bassani catted x MRT Maxthunder Catback MGW Shifter 17x8/17x9 black bullitts

09-22-2006, 03:58 PM	#18
Madmax305 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA Posts: 1,081	Re: Kenne Bell twin screw!!! I'm running 10lbs of boost right now and it is a P1sc. I was debating to swithch over to an 8 rib belt so I could run more boost without belt slip. With the current set up, I got 510rwhp and 460rwtq with 10 lbs of boost at 5000 rpms. The tuner could not get a full pull to 6500 rpm due to the 3.4 pulley, (belt slip). __________________ MMR-950 5.0 STROKER PORT/POLISH-FRPP RACING CAMS KB 2.1 15LBS 570RWHP 550RWTQ (SAE) LDC COOLING MOD, DAVIS WP, 8-RIB BELT TKO 600 .82OD 3.55 GEARS EATON POSI/31 SPLINE AXLES COBRA TANK/PUMPS, SCT-2800 MAF, BAP 60LB INJ, FORE FUEL RAILS, -8AN FUEL LINE BASSANI HEADERS/X-PIPE CANTON 7QT PAN MM TUBULAR K-MEMBER/PANHARD BAR ALUMINUM D.S./FLYWHEEL BILSTEIN SPORT VALVE COILOVERS 4-PISTON BREMBO CALIPERS/ROTORS 18X9/18X10 CHROME BULLITS/NITTO DR'S 2001 COBRA FRONT COVER RET Tune

09-23-2006, 05:35 PM	#23
GrimlokTT I looooove me car... Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fairborn, OH Posts: 2,237	Re: Kenne Bell twin screw!!! Cancelling my extended warranty only nets me ~$400 and it goes to the lien holder, if there is one.

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