Mac Prochamber Vs X-pipe - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

vtecDIS · 08-10-2006, 03:49 PM

im looking to get some LT's and i want to match it something that will benefit me going faster. also, anyone have any dyno slips between these 2??

Ian'sMach1 · 08-10-2006, 03:57 PM

Nice thread. I'm curious as well.

NUMACHI · 08-10-2006, 04:56 PM

As far as I understand, x pipes flow more and make more power than h pipes and/or prochambers just like off road pipes make more power than catted ones. So if the sound quality is not an issue then x is the way to go. However, some people, myself included, lie the sound of an h pipe or prochamber better than the x. That is all up to you tho.

dantheratman · 08-10-2006, 05:51 PM

prochamber all the way!!!
http://s94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...t=DCFN0003.flv

RamMach · 08-10-2006, 07:00 PM

ya i thought the prochamber made the most power then x then h

vtecDIS · 08-10-2006, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NUMACHI

As far as I understand, x pipes flow more and make more power than h pipes and/or prochambers just like off road pipes make more power than catted ones. So if the sound quality is not an issue then x is the way to go. However, some people, myself included, lie the sound of an h pipe or prochamber better than the x. That is all up to you tho.

im definatly love the sound of the h-pipe/prochamber..that classic V8 ROAR is one of the reasons why i got the Mach.. but i want function more than form or in this case-sound. i was looking @ the Mac online catalog http://www.macperformance.com/Online...Automotive.pdf
page 13 shows the function of the mac prochamber...looks exactly like how an xpipe would be--at least i think thats would it would look like... i still dont know tho!....

Surely there is more then a few people out there thats had both a Prochamber and an X-pipe and would give there knowledgeable opinion!!

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Originally Posted by dantheratman

prochamber all the way!!!
http://s94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...t=DCFN0003.flv

D@MN that combo sounds soooo sweet

dantheratman · 08-10-2006, 08:50 PM

thanks will try to get a better clip up my roommate was reving a little too much for me...LOL

Scotty-Z · 08-24-2006, 03:15 AM

From what I know, the X-pipe typically makes better power, due to the fact that it scavenges the exhaust better and "pulls" it from the engine, which is where the power comes in due to the great flow. However, the Prochamber is marketed to be for those people who are looking for the H-pipe-type sound while still having the X-pipe power. Whether or not it's true, I can't really say. I've seen it go both ways. Some guys put down better power with a good X, while others put it down better with the Prochamber. Either way, it's always very close (from what I've seen personally) and could simply be a matter of different dynos. If you're looking for sound, I'd say go with the Prochamber hands down.

Ben99GT · 08-25-2006, 12:50 PM

If you get a TRUE X pipe, not a chambered X-pipe like a Bassani, then ANYONE would be hard pressed to tell the difference in sound quality with a chambered muffler, X vs. H. The Prochamber is much milder sounding than either with Flows.

I can tell you with Flowtech LTs & X-pipe (with Flows), my car sounds way more muscular than it did with a Mac Prochamber and Flows.

And contrary to popular belief, LTs do NOT make a car louder, in fact it quiets a car down in just about every scenario except for possibly WOT.

True X-pipes sound awesome.

jganow · 08-25-2006, 02:27 PM

Everything I have seen has shown that X pipes make more power than the prochamber or H pipes. The Prochamber is a nice alternative to the x pipe if you don't want the X pipe sound. The X pipe is going to sounds a little more high pitched at the higher rpms and a little more hollow sounding, but I think that's because I have a Bassani.

vtecDIS · 09-01-2006, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben99GT

If you get a TRUE X pipe, not a chambered X-pipe like a Bassani, then ANYONE would be hard pressed to tell the difference in sound quality with a chambered muffler, X vs. H. The Prochamber is much milder sounding than either with Flows.

I can tell you with Flowtech LTs & X-pipe (with Flows), my car sounds way more muscular than it did with a Mac Prochamber and Flows.

And contrary to popular belief, LTs do NOT make a car louder, in fact it quiets a car down in just about every scenario except for possibly WOT.

True X-pipes sound awesome.

got a sound clip by any chance? ive heard tons of bassani, but i dont think a " true x pipe"

1MEANSTANG · 09-01-2006, 05:35 PM

Go to Mustangexhaust.com. There are a list of mustangs with different x and h pipe setups as well as catbacks. I'm sure you'll find something there that you like. I have an off road X pipe with the Flowmaster American Thunder catback and it sounds awesome. Very muscular and throaty and deep. The best sound I have heard. Off road pipes with chambered mufflers sound awesome. Check the MRT Max Thunder exhaust as well. It's chambered and looks awesome. Good luck.

BlckMach1 · 09-13-2006, 01:09 AM

the prochamber makes more power... have had both and am going back to a prochamber... it's a deeper sound than the x-pipe and similiar to an h=pipe sound

ShakinIt · 09-26-2006, 10:17 PM

Prochamber is better....cause that's what I have.. :P

instantmassege · 09-27-2006, 12:34 PM

off road Prochamber with borla stingers = priceless, I love the way my car sounds like. Nice and deep toned and when decelarating it giave a nice burble,its just awesome!

Drenath · 09-28-2006, 01:39 AM

There's not much difference in O/R configurations. Go with what you think sounds good. What catback are you planning to go with?

vtecDIS · 09-28-2006, 01:11 PM

i found a whole sale Mac dealer. i know some people dont like the Mac LT's but im going to have to try for myself. Mac LT's, catted pro-chamber, and mac catback for just about $1000. i might just end up buying an x-pipe to see which has better numbers between the 2 since the polls are so close. but posts like BlckMach1 are what counts on my book! someone that has had both.

and thats if the Mach im looking to buy doesnt have an exhaust set up already...the one im looking 2 buy already has bbk LT's catted H, and SLP LM1's

Drenath · 09-28-2006, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by vtecDIS

i found a whole sale Mac dealer. i know some people dont like the Mac LT's but im going to have to try for myself. Mac LT's, catted pro-chamber, and mac catback for just about $1000. i might just end up buying an x-pipe to see which has better numbers between the 2 since the polls are so close. but posts like BlckMach1 are what counts on my book! someone that has had both.

and thats if the Mach im looking to buy doesnt have an exhaust set up already...the one im looking 2 buy already has bbk LT's catted H, and SLP LM1's

I'd say get the Mac catback anyways... Mach buddy of mine has LT's, H LM1's and its not a good sound unless youre racing someone.

vtecDIS · 09-28-2006, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Drenath

I'd say get the Mac catback anyways... Mach buddy of mine has LT's, H LM1's and its not a good sound unless youre racing someone.

ill keep that in mind, but heres a clip of the Mach im looking to buy...she sounds friggen MEAN. bbk LT's, bbk h pipe, and LM1's

Click here to see Video

Machths1 · 09-28-2006, 06:56 PM

That does not sound too bad...go for it!

chris82 · 10-03-2006, 09:33 AM

true x's sound alot like h pipes. Most people can't tell the difference between my upr x compared to an off road h. true x pipes have a little more unique sound and don't sound like every other stang. I have heard a few x's that sound very raspy, mac and bbk. Dr. Gas x pipes sound better than any other off road pipe in my opinion.

Drenath · 10-04-2006, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by vtecDIS

ill keep that in mind, but heres a clip of the Mach im looking to buy...she sounds friggen MEAN. bbk LT's, bbk h pipe, and LM1's

Click here to see Video

Yeah that sounds just like my buddy's. I really do not like the sound. The camera doesn't capture the bite of the raspiness. That **** is seriously, seriously loud. I really don't like LM1's with O/R midpipes.

Phil · 10-04-2006, 06:35 PM

I like the sound of the 2.5" prochamber with 3" Pro dumps. This combo still makes good top end power. If I decide to try a true off road X pipe, then it will be a Dr Gas X pipe.

Bigal1067 · 05-16-2007, 01:38 AM

Sounds nice, but what got my attention was 350hp and 320ftq to the wheels! Now THAt is niiiiiiiiice!

781mach1 · 05-18-2007, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by instantmassege

off road Prochamber with borla stingers = priceless, I love the way my car sounds like. Nice and deep toned and when decelarating it giave a nice burble,its just awesome!

you old car has a bassani x-pipe with a mac catback now. It's LOUD. Actually your old car broke into the 11's last week with php, jlt, exhaust, tune and a 125 shot on tires. 11.75 to be exact and 12.78 off bottle on et streets dumping at 4500.

I had the prochamber for a few months now and I just bought the borla cat back. I heard its the best sounding set up for the mach hands down. I know if its as loud and pingy as the macs are, they are gettin ripped off A.S.A.P

View Poll Results: performance wise...which is better?
Mac Prochamber	48	62.34%
X-Pipe	29	37.66%
Voters: 77. You may not vote on this poll

08-10-2006, 03:49 PM	#1
vtecDIS hunt'n for chevy's Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southern CA Posts: 583	Mac Prochamber Vs X-pipe im looking to get some LT's and i want to match it something that will benefit me going faster. also, anyone have any dyno slips between these 2?? __________________ 2003 Torched Mach1, IUP, 5spd GO: JLT RAI, Hurst Short Shifter, F1 Stage 2 Clutch, Mac o/r H, Bassani SS Catback, EGR/IAC Restrictors, UPR Firewall Adjstr/Quadrant, MMR RSD, HEAR: Power Acoustic BMAF4000D, Boss 3.5 Farad Cap, 8AWG wires, couple of 10" Alpine Type R's @ 1000+ RMS SHOW: Shorty Antenna, 1" Shaker Extension, Eibach Sportlines, Honeycomb Panel, 18" Bullitts 2002 Trans Am WS6 M6. Sold but not forgotten

08-10-2006, 03:57 PM	#2
Ian'sMach1 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tampa,FL Posts: 143	Re: Mac Prochamber Vs X-pipe Nice thread. I'm curious as well. __________________ 2003 Torch Red Mach1 5-speed Mods: Magnaflow MagnaPack Cat-Back K&N Drop-in air filter JLT RAI Diablo Predator Hand Held Tuner FRPP Aluminum Flywheel FRPP 11'' King Cobra Clutch assembly FRPP Aluminum Driveshaft 2003 Oxford White Mach 1 5-speed R.I.P 07/07/2006 Mods: Magnaflow cat-back Steeda cold air Racing Clutch

08-10-2006, 04:56 PM	#3
NUMACHI R CODE Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hagerstown, Maryland Posts: 939	Re: Mac Prochamber Vs X-pipe As far as I understand, x pipes flow more and make more power than h pipes and/or prochambers just like off road pipes make more power than catted ones. So if the sound quality is not an issue then x is the way to go. However, some people, myself included, lie the sound of an h pipe or prochamber better than the x. That is all up to you tho. __________________ 2003 Azure Blue Mach 5 Speed, IUP - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ALMOST STOCK

08-10-2006, 05:51 PM	#4
dantheratman Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: here,here Posts: 593	Re: Mac Prochamber Vs X-pipe prochamber all the way!!! http://s94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...t=DCFN0003.flv

08-10-2006, 07:00 PM	#5
RamMach rammach Join Date: May 2005 Location: sac town, cali Posts: 277	Re: Mac Prochamber Vs X-pipe ya i thought the prochamber made the most power then x then h __________________ 04 dsg mach, 5 speed 4.30 gears slp catted x pipe slp loudmouth 1 diablo predator mgw short shifter 18x9 black deep dish bullits 275/35/18 all the way around yokohama advan s4 tires eibach pro kit koni adj.shocks/struts mm lower control arms mm full length subrame connectors 3pt steeda brace steeda front swaybar evolution motorsports "V" brace

08-10-2006, 08:50 PM	#7
dantheratman Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: here,here Posts: 593	Re: Mac Prochamber Vs X-pipe thanks will try to get a better clip up my roommate was reving a little too much for me...LOL

08-24-2006, 03:15 AM	#8
Scotty-Z Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: St. Peters, MO Posts: 4	Re: Mac Prochamber Vs X-pipe From what I know, the X-pipe typically makes better power, due to the fact that it scavenges the exhaust better and "pulls" it from the engine, which is where the power comes in due to the great flow. However, the Prochamber is marketed to be for those people who are looking for the H-pipe-type sound while still having the X-pipe power. Whether or not it's true, I can't really say. I've seen it go both ways. Some guys put down better power with a good X, while others put it down better with the Prochamber. Either way, it's always very close (from what I've seen personally) and could simply be a matter of different dynos. If you're looking for sound, I'd say go with the Prochamber hands down. __________________ 2002 Chevy Camaro Z28 -SLP lid, Pacesetter LTs and Offroad Y, SLP Dual/Dual catback, chrome ZR1s I may be a Chevy guy, but I've always loved Mustangs and I'd love to get into a 5-speed DSG Mach 1

08-25-2006, 12:50 PM	#9
Ben99GT 4V GT Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: MS Posts: 1,055	Re: Mac Prochamber Vs X-pipe If you get a TRUE X pipe, not a chambered X-pipe like a Bassani, then ANYONE would be hard pressed to tell the difference in sound quality with a chambered muffler, X vs. H. The Prochamber is much milder sounding than either with Flows. I can tell you with Flowtech LTs & X-pipe (with Flows), my car sounds way more muscular than it did with a Mac Prochamber and Flows. And contrary to popular belief, LTs do NOT make a car louder, in fact it quiets a car down in just about every scenario except for possibly WOT. True X-pipes sound awesome.

08-25-2006, 02:27 PM	#10
jganow Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 180	Re: Mac Prochamber Vs X-pipe Everything I have seen has shown that X pipes make more power than the prochamber or H pipes. The Prochamber is a nice alternative to the x pipe if you don't want the X pipe sound. The X pipe is going to sounds a little more high pitched at the higher rpms and a little more hollow sounding, but I think that's because I have a Bassani. __________________ 2003 Azure Blue Mach MGW Shifter MRT CAI PHP Intake Spacer Bassani Catted X MRT Max Thunder Cat Back

09-01-2006, 05:35 PM	#12
1MEANSTANG Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: PALM COAST, FL Posts: 933	Re: Mac Prochamber Vs X-pipe Go to Mustangexhaust.com. There are a list of mustangs with different x and h pipe setups as well as catbacks. I'm sure you'll find something there that you like. I have an off road X pipe with the Flowmaster American Thunder catback and it sounds awesome. Very muscular and throaty and deep. The best sound I have heard. Off road pipes with chambered mufflers sound awesome. Check the MRT Max Thunder exhaust as well. It's chambered and looks awesome. Good luck.

09-13-2006, 01:09 AM	#13
BlckMach1 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ontario, Ca Posts: 68	Re: Mac Prochamber Vs X-pipe the prochamber makes more power... have had both and am going back to a prochamber... it's a deeper sound than the x-pipe and similiar to an h=pipe sound __________________ -Heads and Cams package by Powerheads -BBK longtubes -BBk offroad x-pipe -Spintech catback -JLT cold air (flamed) -17x9 255's -17x10.5 315's -Dyno tuned at S.T. Motorsorts -03 cobra bumper -Custom stereo On the way- Custom paint by Stangwerks and a ?? blower

09-26-2006, 10:17 PM	#14
ShakinIt Gas guzzling American!! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Land O Lakes, FL Posts: 99	Re: Mac Prochamber Vs X-pipe Prochamber is better....cause that's what I have.. :P __________________ 2003 Azure Blue Auto K&N FIPK MAC offroad ProChamber Magnaflow catbacks 18x9, 18x10 black Saleen wheels 265/35, 285/35 Nitto NT555s Ford GT Optima Red top battery and a stubby antenna, good for +3 rwhp

09-27-2006, 12:34 PM	#15
instantmassege LS WHAT? Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Stoughton, MA Posts: 686	Re: Mac Prochamber Vs X-pipe off road Prochamber with borla stingers = priceless, I love the way my car sounds like. Nice and deep toned and when decelarating it giave a nice burble,its just awesome! __________________ 03 Mach1 exhaust, intake, tune. 12.9@109 2.051 60'

09-28-2006, 01:39 AM	#16
Drenath Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington Heights, IL Posts: 598	Re: Mac Prochamber Vs X-pipe There's not much difference in O/R configurations. Go with what you think sounds good. What catback are you planning to go with? __________________ Azure 2003 Mach 1 - 5spd Eaton m112 Supercharged 430 rwhp, 4.30 built rear 11.93 @ 118 (1.87 60') chicagolandmustang.com

09-28-2006, 01:11 PM	#17
vtecDIS hunt'n for chevy's Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southern CA Posts: 583	Re: Mac Prochamber Vs X-pipe i found a whole sale Mac dealer. i know some people dont like the Mac LT's but im going to have to try for myself. Mac LT's, catted pro-chamber, and mac catback for just about $1000. i might just end up buying an x-pipe to see which has better numbers between the 2 since the polls are so close. but posts like BlckMach1 are what counts on my book! someone that has had both. and thats if the Mach im looking to buy doesnt have an exhaust set up already...the one im looking 2 buy already has bbk LT's catted H, and SLP LM1's __________________ 2003 Torched Mach1, IUP, 5spd GO: JLT RAI, Hurst Short Shifter, F1 Stage 2 Clutch, Mac o/r H, Bassani SS Catback, EGR/IAC Restrictors, UPR Firewall Adjstr/Quadrant, MMR RSD, HEAR: Power Acoustic BMAF4000D, Boss 3.5 Farad Cap, 8AWG wires, couple of 10" Alpine Type R's @ 1000+ RMS SHOW: Shorty Antenna, 1" Shaker Extension, Eibach Sportlines, Honeycomb Panel, 18" Bullitts 2002 Trans Am WS6 M6. Sold but not forgotten

09-28-2006, 06:56 PM	#20
Machths1 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Georgia Posts: 355	Re: Mac Prochamber Vs X-pipe That does not sound too bad...go for it! __________________ 2003 Black Mach 1 12.34@113 in Nitto DR's - SOLD 1993 Mustang GT

10-03-2006, 09:33 AM	#21
chris82 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 47	Re: Mac Prochamber Vs X-pipe true x's sound alot like h pipes. Most people can't tell the difference between my upr x compared to an off road h. true x pipes have a little more unique sound and don't sound like every other stang. I have heard a few x's that sound very raspy, mac and bbk. Dr. Gas x pipes sound better than any other off road pipe in my opinion.

10-04-2006, 06:35 PM	#23
Phil Nitrous Junkie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,906	Re: Mac Prochamber Vs X-pipe I like the sound of the 2.5" prochamber with 3" Pro dumps. This combo still makes good top end power. If I decide to try a true off road X pipe, then it will be a Dr Gas X pipe. __________________ Phil Performance mods by Jeff Chambers, the owner/tuner of CRT Performance in Norwalk, Ohio http://www.crt-performance.com/

05-16-2007, 01:38 AM	#24
Bigal1067 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Miami, Fl Posts: 291	Re: Mac Prochamber Vs X-pipe Sounds nice, but what got my attention was 350hp and 320ftq to the wheels! Now THAt is niiiiiiiiice!

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