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04-26-2016, 11:29 PM | #1 |
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Enjoy the car my a**..freakin rear end issues again
Ok, since my gear install fiasco, I finally had install done semi correctly (I say semi since I always had a slight whine on decel). It seemed to me to be getting worse. Yesterday , I did a slight burnout and 1,2,3 pull and drove normal. Next thing I know , as soon as I let my foot off the gas, I get this loud *** like a chung, chung , chung , like a banging sound. As soon as I hit the gas, go away..so tomorrow pulling pan since shop owner and mechanic that put gear in said they never heard a sound like it before, The fluid came out like water and gray, my prediction is first dude awhile back never installed clutch packs correctly and I have wore out clutch packs and also on slight tip in throttle I hear a slight metallic sound like washers shuffling together..will update what I find out.
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04-27-2016, 06:57 AM | #2 |
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Re: Enjoy the car my a**..freakin rear end issues again
Make sure the crush sleeve was replaced. Mine wasn't when the seal was replaced the second time and it was like all he11 broke loose in the pumpkin.
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04-27-2016, 09:42 AM | #3 | |
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04-27-2016, 11:07 AM | #4 | |
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04-27-2016, 11:28 AM | #5 | |
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Re: Enjoy the car my a**..freakin rear end issues again
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This ?? http://www.summitracing.com/parts/dtl-913a561/overview/
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04-27-2016, 11:40 AM | #6 | |
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04-27-2016, 11:51 AM | #7 |
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Re: Enjoy the car my a**..freakin rear end issues again
Everyone wants to see pictures Larry...
Sorry for your bad luck, again.
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04-27-2016, 12:51 PM | #8 |
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Re: Enjoy the car my a**..freakin rear end issues again
Dang your luck! Sorry man!
I'm going with one of these babies as well. That's why it's taking me so long to upgrade. Gotta save $$ LOL.
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04-27-2016, 02:22 PM | #9 |
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Re: Enjoy the car my a**..freakin rear end issues again
Ah, don't feel bad. I'm right there with you. I rebuilt the rear end, changed front wheel hubs twice, replaced the motor and trans, and my Mach still grinds and sounds like super swamper tires. Now I have to put timing guides on the motor I just installed.
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04-27-2016, 02:41 PM | #10 |
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Re: Enjoy the car my a**..freakin rear end issues again
and to think I was getting so pissy about having trouble getting my MAF adjusted
sorry to hear it Larry
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04-27-2016, 08:32 PM | #11 |
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Got to pack them tight to last. Seems I'm one of the few who stands by the cobra diff. In for pics of the carnage.
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04-27-2016, 09:25 PM | #12 |
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Re: Enjoy the car my a**..freakin rear end issues again
I rebuilt mine last fall and went with the Cobra clutch pack as well..I did the alternate assembly so they pack tighter. So far,so good. A little groaning when sharp cornering at slow speed...
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04-27-2016, 10:01 PM | #13 |
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Re: Enjoy the car my a**..freakin rear end issues again
Well, pulled cover and no carnage. 2 ring bolts had backed out, caught it just in time. You could see where loctite hadn't somehow gripped in the threads. Installed bolts with bigger heads, loctite, refilled and no issue. Clutches looked good..all is well in Larry Land again..thanks guys. Rotated DS and still have a vibration at about 70 mph on up...gonna try putting dogbone back in as a free try..if not, still leaning towards tubular k member on this one.
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04-27-2016, 10:02 PM | #14 |
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Re: Enjoy the car my a**..freakin rear end issues again
I know, I always feel bad reading your post
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04-28-2016, 06:12 AM | #15 |
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Re: Enjoy the car my a**..freakin rear end issues again
Glad you got it worked out!
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04-28-2016, 05:24 PM | #16 |
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Re: Enjoy the car my a**..freakin rear end issues again
I don't get it. Have built dozens of rearends over the past 20 years and have never had a ring gear bolt back out yet I hear about it from time to time. I'm always wondering if guys just don't use a toque wrench or don't double check them.
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04-28-2016, 06:07 PM | #17 |
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Re: Enjoy the car my a**..freakin rear end issues again
Exactly what I texted to Larry. I ALWAYS use blue loctite and torque to 85-90 ft. lbs. Never had an issue.
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04-28-2016, 10:22 PM | #18 | |
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04-29-2016, 04:58 PM | #19 | |
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05-09-2016, 08:09 AM | #20 |
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Re: Enjoy the car my a**..freakin rear end issues again
I am going back today..I have driven the car 3 times and every morning when I come out there is gear oil under the car..bad enough it is on sway bar and blowing out and onto rear bumper cover..looks like it may be coming out vent tube. Dud actually told me I could jack up the car and let some out . My reply was I had $129 reasons for them to do it since I had NO issues before with oil leaking on the ground..man do I need a shop that knows what the f**k they are doing
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05-09-2016, 08:30 AM | #21 |
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Re: Enjoy the car my a**..freakin rear end issues again
Take it to Chris bishop at hp performance. He is awesome with gears
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05-09-2016, 09:55 AM | #22 |
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Re: Enjoy the car my a**..freakin rear end issues again
Larry sorry to hear about your problem, i'm also getting viberation around 70mph and think it is the K-member, i'm debating on putting the stock one back on
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05-10-2016, 06:32 AM | #23 |
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Re: Enjoy the car my a**..freakin rear end issues again
I too have done several gear installs and rear end tune ups.
The crush sleeve thing is over rated. If the dimensions are the same on the new pinion gear or close with in a couple thousands you have no worries re- install it and tighten it down the proper way. Don't use an impact for re install ever in the pinion area. there is supposed to be inch pounds of resistence but thats after the nut is tight. there are a few other details that are involved but it sounds to me like the shop that did the work does not know what they are doing. Alot of techs are scared of gear installs there are pleanty of videos on youtube as well to help. Try it on your own like I did with the help of someone technical. Sorry to hear about your troubles but the ring gear bolts backing out is totally UN Acceptable! |
05-10-2016, 06:07 PM | #24 |
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Re: Enjoy the car my a**..freakin rear end issues again
I went back today since gear oil was blowing out vent so bad it was on my rear plate..dude pulled filled plug and it came out solid for about 5 seconds then he put plug back in and sprayed off all the gear oil coating rear of the car.
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05-10-2016, 07:53 PM | #25 |
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Re: Enjoy the car my a**..freakin rear end issues again
Did it solve issues
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