Anyone using an EGR Delete? - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

DSG Mach ONE · 09-29-2004, 03:56 AM

Title Says it.

Anyone? or anyone know someone that makes one?

DSG Mach ONE · 09-29-2004, 06:50 AM

Ok, I found a kit over at Modular Depot, it has a nice block off plate for the intake and a cap for the header.

Just so everyone knows, I do know how the EGR system works and that it is there for good intentions and that it really doesnt hurt anything. But I just like removing things that I feel are dead weight and take up space. And I also can turn the system off in my Predator, so no ill effects will pop up.

Thanks everyone, still feel free to chime in, it may help someone out there.

machgsxr · 04-21-2006, 09:53 AM

Dead thread back to life.

Anybody have any problems deleting the EGR yet?

4a7191a · 04-21-2006, 10:13 AM

egr puts hot exhaust air in the intake only under normal driving, goal is for emissions, but also keeps detionation down. when you go to wot the egr doesnt put gasses in the intake, itll close off til the vac allows it to open again.

Phil · 08-09-2006, 03:20 PM

I just removed the EGR assembly and installed the EGR block off plate/Header plug. Then I pluged the 3 vacuum lines that are disconnected. My EGR has been turned off by my tuner last year. The EGR is off at WOT anyways.

G · 08-09-2006, 07:19 PM

As Phil did, it won't hurt a thing. A bad EGR is a potential problem for detonation from not closing off the flow of hot air going to the intake. The EGR is what sends the hot gases there to start with so removal (properly done) should not cause a detonation problem. The EGR is also closed at idle to prevent ROUGH idle. It only opens during partial throttle ops, unless it's broke.

It is VERY ugly.

townson24 · 08-09-2006, 11:16 PM

After the cam install, my tuner turned off the egr system. It shows up as not ready at inspection time. Suppose I could block it off.

torchredmach · 08-09-2006, 11:19 PM

How much weight would be saved by taking out the EGR (not sure what it looks like or is so dont laugh)

EDIT: Also do our car have a smog pump that is one of the things belt driven off the motor (like the water pump and A/C)???

blown03Mach1 · 08-10-2006, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by torchredmach

How much weight would be saved by taking out the EGR (not sure what it looks like or is so dont laugh)

Unless I missed something all I saw for the EGR system was a tube from the exhaust to the EGR valve and the valve itself. Yes there are a couple of vaccum lines, but I would guess you would only loose about 3 lbs. I might take mine off as the tube is all rusted and looks like AZZ.

04mach_man · 08-10-2006, 02:07 PM

dsg mach one, you can laways turn off the egr. IF your using SCT software you can turn off the egr sensors likeit isnt there..

Phil · 08-10-2006, 06:37 PM

Here is a pic of the EGR delete cover for the manifold, it comes with new bolts & composite gasket. Pic of the EGR with tube & hoses which weighs 2.0 lbs. Three vacuum lines must be pluged.

3150Mach1 · 08-10-2006, 08:38 PM

I thought we needed to leave it on but if Phil has his off then that must not be needed. I can turn my off with my predator. So should I just turn the ***** off. Sounds like it does no good but keep tree huggers happy and put exhaust fumes into my air intake.

Phil · 08-10-2006, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 03Mach150BP

I thought we needed to leave it on but if Phil has his off then that must not be needed. I can turn my off with my predator. So should I just turn the ***** off. Sounds like it does no good but keep tree huggers happy and put exhaust fumes into my air intake.

Just turn it off.. If you have emission tests to pass, then leave it hooked up and turn it back on for the test.

littlemags · 08-13-2006, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil

Here is a pic of the EGR delete cover for the manifold, it comes with new bolts & composite gasket. Pic of the EGR with tube & hoses which weighs 2.0 lbs. Three vacuum lines must be pluged.

phil...where did you get that nifty egr delete from?

Phil · 08-13-2006, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by littlemags

phil...where did you get that nifty egr delete from?

http://64.33.38.59/

Items Ordered:
Item: CVR ASY-INTAKE MANIF
Price: $7.09
Tax: $0.00
Qty: 1
Total: $7.09

Item: PLUG-BLANKING
Price: $6.46
Tax: $0.00
Qty: 1
Total: $6.46

-----------------------------
Items Total: $13.55
Shipping: $7.99
Handling Fee: $1.50
Order Total: $23.04

machgsxr · 08-13-2006, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by littlemags

phil...where did you get that nifty egr delete from?

I got mine from modulardepot.com. Randy sells them for like 20 shipped.

racingb · 08-13-2006, 05:54 PM

I really don't see why anyone would want to unhook the egr system unless you have a (race only car). The egr system lowers combustion chamber temps at cruise speeds by putting dead air (no o2), into the cylinders and prevents the formation of nox gases by lowering cylinder temps. And has no effect on wot as far as i know ???? but i have been wrong before.

littlemags · 08-13-2006, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racingb

I really don't see why anyone would want to unhook the egr system unless you have a (race only car). The egr system lowers combustion chamber temps at cruise speeds by putting dead air (no o2), into the cylinders and prevents the formation of nox gases by lowering cylinder temps. And has no effect on wot as far as i know ???? but i have been wrong before.

my car see's about 5 percent street...the rest is at the track

littlemags · 08-13-2006, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil

http://64.33.38.59/

Items Ordered:
Item: CVR ASY-INTAKE MANIF
Price: $7.09
Tax: $0.00
Qty: 1
Total: $7.09

Item: PLUG-BLANKING
Price: $6.46
Tax: $0.00
Qty: 1
Total: $6.46

-----------------------------
Items Total: $13.55
Shipping: $7.99
Handling Fee: $1.50
Order Total: $23.04

AGAIN Phil to the rescue!

mustangmike2003 · 08-13-2006, 06:19 PM

Phil, you can remove more stuff off the upper intake now that you got rid of the EGR. There is like 2 or 3 more things you can get rid of

littlemags · 08-13-2006, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mustangmike2003

Phil, you can remove more stuff off the upper intake now that you got rid of the EGR. There is like 2 or 3 more things you can get rid of

i would like to know what else

mustangmike2003 · 08-13-2006, 06:32 PM

some one post up a pic of the upper intake with the shaker off and I will draw arrows, saw a guy at a car show with it all removed and I talked to him for a while. He doesnt have any check engine lights and he said he car runs smoother.

Phil · 08-13-2006, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mustangmike2003

Phil, you can remove more stuff off the upper intake now that you got rid of the EGR. There is like 2 or 3 more things you can get rid of

Ya, the EVR & DPFE

http://rockledge.home.comcast.net/Ra...dEGRSystem.htm

09-29-2004, 03:56 AM	#1
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09-29-2004, 06:50 AM	#2
DSG Mach ONE Got Boost? Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Central NJ Posts: 702	Ok, I found a kit over at Modular Depot, it has a nice block off plate for the intake and a cap for the header. Just so everyone knows, I do know how the EGR system works and that it is there for good intentions and that it really doesnt hurt anything. But I just like removing things that I feel are dead weight and take up space. And I also can turn the system off in my Predator, so no ill effects will pop up. Thanks everyone, still feel free to chime in, it may help someone out there. __________________ 2004 Dark Shadow Grey Mach 1 5 Speed w/ IUP -ProCharged- FOR SALE! PRO-M Racing Mass Air FOR SALE! Cobra Fuel Hat w/ Cobra Pumps MM&FF -August 2007- Mach 1 vs Cobra Shootout! *Page 70* http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...out/index.html

04-21-2006, 09:53 AM	#3
machgsxr Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Antonio Posts: 6,414	Re: Anyone using an EGR Delete? Dead thread back to life. Anybody have any problems deleting the EGR yet?

04-21-2006, 10:13 AM	#4
4a7191a Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: beaumont texas Posts: 1,344	Re: Anyone using an EGR Delete? egr puts hot exhaust air in the intake only under normal driving, goal is for emissions, but also keeps detionation down. when you go to wot the egr doesnt put gasses in the intake, itll close off til the vac allows it to open again. __________________ 2004white mach1 2001 svt lightning 2011 Mitsubishi Evo X 1999 F250 7.3L

08-09-2006, 03:20 PM	#5
Phil Nitrous Junkie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,299	Re: Anyone using an EGR Delete? I just removed the EGR assembly and installed the EGR block off plate/Header plug. Then I pluged the 3 vacuum lines that are disconnected. My EGR has been turned off by my tuner last year. The EGR is off at WOT anyways. __________________ Phil PRB Machining, LLC http://www.prbmachining-absdeleteman...com/index.html Performance mods by Jeff Chambers, the owner/tuner of CRT Performance in Norwalk, Ohio http://www.crt-performance.com/

08-09-2006, 07:19 PM	#6
G Undocumented Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Enterprise, AL Posts: 15,828	Re: Anyone using an EGR Delete? As Phil did, it won't hurt a thing. A bad EGR is a potential problem for detonation from not closing off the flow of hot air going to the intake. The EGR is what sends the hot gases there to start with so removal (properly done) should not cause a detonation problem. The EGR is also closed at idle to prevent ROUGH idle. It only opens during partial throttle ops, unless it's broke. It is VERY ugly. __________________ _____________________________________________ 2003 Mach1 AB 5spd 2004 Mach1 TR 5spd (sold) 1933 Ford 3W Coupe (4.6 dohc Stack Injection) 2003 Cobra TR (sold) 2014 Mustang GT (Track Pack) in Black

08-09-2006, 11:16 PM	#7
townson24 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 553	Re: Anyone using an EGR Delete? After the cam install, my tuner turned off the egr system. It shows up as not ready at inspection time. Suppose I could block it off. __________________ mods: jlt cai, php spacer, brisk spark plugs, bbk ceramic lt's, bbk catted short h pipe, SSS catback, carbon fiber driveshaft, upr upper and lower control arms, mgw shifter, chip/tune, HP custom cams, canton 9qt pan w/ windage tray, 3.90 gears, steeda pullies, rear seat delete, p&p manifold. 349 HP & 320 TQ car weight:3340 w/half tank of fuel

08-09-2006, 11:19 PM	#8
torchredmach Stock Gatorbacks > Slicks Join Date: May 2006 Location: MN Posts: 1,441	Re: Anyone using an EGR Delete? How much weight would be saved by taking out the EGR (not sure what it looks like or is so dont laugh) EDIT: Also do our car have a smog pump that is one of the things belt driven off the motor (like the water pump and A/C)??? __________________ 2004 Torch Red Mach 1 w/ Al Papitto 32-Valve 5.4L Jon Lund Tuned for E85 First '13 GT500 running on ethanol and stock fuel system. World's Fastest Standing Mile Stock Supercharger GT500 - 197.2mph Texas Mile 3/22/2014 www.facebook.com/jordanweirracing

08-10-2006, 02:07 PM	#10
04mach_man Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: El paso Posts: 247	Re: Anyone using an EGR Delete? dsg mach one, you can laways turn off the egr. IF your using SCT software you can turn off the egr sensors likeit isnt there..

08-10-2006, 06:37 PM	#11
Phil Nitrous Junkie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,299	Re: Anyone using an EGR Delete? Here is a pic of the EGR delete cover for the manifold, it comes with new bolts & composite gasket. Pic of the EGR with tube & hoses which weighs 2.0 lbs. Three vacuum lines must be pluged. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Phil PRB Machining, LLC http://www.prbmachining-absdeleteman...com/index.html Performance mods by Jeff Chambers, the owner/tuner of CRT Performance in Norwalk, Ohio http://www.crt-performance.com/

08-10-2006, 08:38 PM	#12
3150Mach1 Love my Mach Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Charlottesville, VA Posts: 13,678	Re: Anyone using an EGR Delete? I thought we needed to leave it on but if Phil has his off then that must not be needed. I can turn my off with my predator. So should I just turn the *** off. Sounds like it does no good but keep tree huggers happy and put exhaust fumes into my air intake. __________________ 2003 slowmatic 11.105@117mph w/125 shot of Nitrous best to date** Kooks LTsw/OR X, elect cutouts, JLT RAI w/C&L 85 MAH,1" Spacer,PP Lower intake,Accufab TB,160 T-stat,EF Cooling Mod,NX Kit,Mez Electric Water pump,SLP Linelock,FRPP 4.10s-Alum Dif Cover-Alum Driveshaft & SL, Steeda Bumpsteer,MM Alum rack bushings,Deep Alum Tranny pan,Predator,Steeda AUCAs,MM ALCAs, Dspecs,MM CC plates & FLSFCs,MRT Guage cluster,AEM WB,MRT hood struts,Seq TLs, carbon fiber hood/trunk/Cobra wing,220 amp alt

08-13-2006, 05:54 PM	#17
racingb Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Hickory NC Posts: 115	Re: Anyone using an EGR Delete? I really don't see why anyone would want to unhook the egr system unless you have a (race only car). The egr system lowers combustion chamber temps at cruise speeds by putting dead air (no o2), into the cylinders and prevents the formation of nox gases by lowering cylinder temps. And has no effect on wot as far as i know ???? but i have been wrong before.

08-13-2006, 06:19 PM	#20
mustangmike2003 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,307	Re: Anyone using an EGR Delete? Phil, you can remove more stuff off the upper intake now that you got rid of the EGR. There is like 2 or 3 more things you can get rid of __________________ 03 Torch Red Mach 1 5speed Blown Motor Mod

08-13-2006, 06:32 PM	#22
mustangmike2003 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,307	Re: Anyone using an EGR Delete? some one post up a pic of the upper intake with the shaker off and I will draw arrows, saw a guy at a car show with it all removed and I talked to him for a while. He doesnt have any check engine lights and he said he car runs smoother. __________________ 03 Torch Red Mach 1 5speed Blown Motor Mod

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