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gvervoren · 08-22-2008, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ylopony

The last thing I'm going to tat on me is a nascar racers number.

I wouldn't do this either. By the way, this was at a car show and he had it in the "stock" class. He tried telling me it came from the factory like this. I asked him if he thought I was stupid or something. He says why? I'm like, "for one thing, the Dale Jr. edition is a Monte carlo SS, It only has the black "E" shaped decal on the side, and it doesn't have the owners name of the car above the door. 1/2 hour later, I walked by and noticed that he changed classes and went into modified class.

gvervoren · 08-22-2008, 09:37 PM

All this bickering is about Toyota but I would bet that there is a lot of cheating going on with all the makes. The thing is, they just never got caught yet.

falcongtho3 · 08-22-2008, 10:10 PM

Toyota wasn't cheating by making big HP numbers, they were just making more power than NASCAR thought prudent for a race where cars are supposed to have parity. Toyota chose to try to fake their test numbers by modifying the pedals with magnets so that they would get told by NASCAR what changes to make, but still secretly make more power than they were suposed to. That's the error in their ways, and that's when they cheated. They still should have gotten slapped down harder for that.

ylopony · 08-23-2008, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by falcongtho3

Toyota wasn't cheating by making big HP numbers, they were just making more power than NASCAR thought prudent for a race where cars are supposed to have parity. Toyota chose to try to fake their test numbers by modifying the pedals with magnets so that they would get told by NASCAR what changes to make, but still secretly make more power than they were suposed to. That's the error in their ways, and that's when they cheated. They still should have gotten slapped down harder for that.

And that my friend has by far been the best summary of why it was cheating.

This recent episode by the "esteemed" Joe Gibbs and his racing team was one of the worst episodes of cheating in recent years in my opinion. Along with Mikey Waltrip and his Toyota team last year.

bris09 · 08-23-2008, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ylopony

And that my friend has by far been the best summary of why it was cheating.

This recent episode by the "esteemed" Joe Gibbs and his racing team was one of the worst episodes of cheating in recent years in my opinion. Along with Mikey Waltrip and his Toyota team last year.

Actually, I thought Jimmy Johnson's adjustable rear window was.

falcongtho3 · 08-23-2008, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bris09

Actually, I thought Jimmy Johnson's adjustable rear window was.

It was, but you dont think ylo's gonna fess up to that one?

And congrats to 'backflip' Edwards on starting first in tonights race (too bad about last nights race, though)!!

beerformeplz · 08-23-2008, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ylopony

This recent episode by the "esteemed" Joe Gibbs and his racing team was one of the worst episodes of cheating in recent years in my opinion. Along with Mikey Waltrip and his Toyota team last year.

I believe Carl Edwards was a worst case of cheating as it directly effected a race.

G · 08-23-2008, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by beerformeplz

I believe Carl Edwards was a worst case of cheating as it directly effected a race.

Not even close and there is no proof it changed the outcome of that race.

These guys are the big cheaters and 2 WORK FOR NASCAR checking for cheaters.

TOP FIVE CHEATERS
http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/stor...NASCAR-history

G · 08-23-2008, 01:36 PM

I avoided the results of the truck race until last night when I caught the first half of the thing on Speed. I didn't like the ending when I checked out the vids this morning.

I missed the NW race and checked the vids for it too, that ending was ok for me.

I noticed the hit list for that rookie truck racer "Jim Johnson" had #51 on it like 5 times. So finally JJ does something I like.

ylopony · 08-23-2008, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bris09

Actually, I thought Jimmy Johnson's adjustable rear window was.

I forgot all about that one. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. LOL

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Originally Posted by falcongtho3

It was, but you dont think ylo's gonna fess up to that one?

And congrats to 'backflip' Edwards on starting first in tonights race (too bad about last nights race, though)!!

Fess up, never.

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Originally Posted by beerformeplz

I believe Carl Edwards was a worst case of cheating as it directly effected a race.

And cheating about HP in a motor don't effect a race. That may help explain why after every restart Busch ends up pulling several car lengths ahead of the second place car in the straight aways. That is HP not talent.

I guess Nascar don't share your opinion. These penalties show just how severe they felt the cheating at JGR exactly was.

falcongtho3 · 08-23-2008, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by beerformeplz

I believe Carl Edwards was a worst case of cheating as it directly effected a race.

Was that actually Gibbs voice coming out of beerformeplz's helmet avatar?

Edwards/Roush didn't blatently try to circumvent rules to win a race, Gibbs Racing tried out and out to set themselves up to have an advantage in future races by falsifying the information NASCAR was trying to obtain to level out the playing field. Sould like big-time cheating to me.

beerformeplz · 08-23-2008, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by falcongtho3

Was that actually Gibbs voice coming out of beerformeplz's helmet avatar?

lol

Azure Blurr · 08-23-2008, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by beerformeplz

lol

I thought it was pretty funny as well!

Thunderbolt · 08-23-2008, 09:21 PM

When they widened the track 3 feet last year they really ruined the tradition of nail biting racing at Bristol. ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..................

falcongtho3 · 08-23-2008, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Azure Blurr

I thought it was pretty funny as well!

They like me! They really like me!!!

(Or not......)

bris09 · 08-23-2008, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by G

Not even close and there is no proof it changed the outcome of that race.

These guys are the big cheaters and 2 WORK FOR NASCAR checking for cheaters.

TOP FIVE CHEATERS
http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/stor...NASCAR-history

Makes sense to me. Who would know better what to look for.

G · 08-23-2008, 11:28 PM

Way to go Carl

G · 08-23-2008, 11:31 PM

Big ears needs to try to hit Carl --- OUTSIDE THE CAR!!!

Thunderbolt · 08-23-2008, 11:43 PM

"MICHAEL WALTRIP IS THE ABSOLUTE WORST DRIVER IN NASCAR!"

I thought that was funny as hell when that spotter or criew chief said that. But it's the truth. Even though he did'nt cause that accident. The race was still good. A truly classy answer by Carl about the tap and run he gave Bush. It would be gret to see Carl win it all.

gvervoren · 08-24-2008, 12:32 AM

Carl is my hero!!! I too like the way he answered about the bump and run. LOL

02mach1 · 08-24-2008, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Thunderbolt

"MICHAEL WALTRIP IS THE ABSOLUTE WORST DRIVER IN NASCAR!"

I thought that was funny as hell when that spotter or criew chief said that. But it's the truth. Even though he did'nt cause that accident. The race was still good. A truly classy answer by Carl about the tap and run he gave Bush. It would be gret to see Carl win it all.

I know I hope Carl run over Bush next week,

plus Steelers won tonight to.

falcongtho3 · 08-24-2008, 08:03 AM

Looks like Dumbo got owned by Mr. Ed.

Kyle showed what a 'class' act he really is. And if anyone thinks otherwise, he's the one that called called down by NASCAR, not Carl.
It's on, and I think Carl should be given plenty of credit for kepping it close and his crew chief applauded for getting the car where it shold be for the last segment of the race.
Gibbs Racing need to be ashamed for not only being cheaters, but bad losers. They don't deserve a championship. They may back into one, but it isn't a deserved one.
And congrats to JJ for such a great race (sorry, Ylo...had to do it , just for you! ), even though JG managed to have a respectable race, he didn't really seemed thrilled by it...odd.
The comment about Waltrip was the absolute highlight of the night, though!

ylopony · 08-24-2008, 09:49 AM

I love both of the comments that Edwards and "Buschleague" said after the race.

Here is what Edwards had to say. "It's one of those deals where I couldn't get by him, I couldn't get by him, and I just had to ask myself, 'Would he do that to me?' Obviously the answer was your darn right Dumbo would have done it.

And here is what Buschleague had to say. "He hit me getting into Turn 1," Busch said. "Whatever. Carl's going to say he's sorry, that he didn't want to race that way, but he always does. We'll take it, we'll go on and we'll race him that way in the Chase if that's the way he wants to race."

I'm sorry here, but there is an old saying that all of us know very well, What goes around comes around. Well Kyle, these guys out there know you, how classless you are, and what you would do to them. Why do they know this. Because you have repeatedly knocked cars off the track in your career. If you treat a driver with respect most will return the favor. Drive like it's a Saturday night demolition derby at the county fair and that is what the other drivers are going to do to you when they have the chance.

Also Kyle Buschleague, great show of class once again. Your ramming Edwards after the race is very typical of your classlessness. So was your post race comments. There is a difference between racing with attitude and being classless, you are the later. What a waste of great talent with your immaturity and classlessness.

Despite what most of you may think, I do like team Roush. Biffle and Edwards are my two favorite from that camp. If it's not going to be JJ or JG at the finish first It suits me fine to see those two get there first.

birdman941 · 08-24-2008, 09:58 AM

I hope ASSCAR fines Dumbo and takes away 200 points,
puts him on probation, and spanks him with a wet noodle.
Or maybe throws wet rice at him I suppose.

ylopony · 08-24-2008, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by birdman941

I hope ASSCAR fines Dumbo and takes away 200 points,
puts him on probation, and spanks him with a wet noodle.
Or maybe throws wet rice at him I suppose.

I have a feeling Dumbo would like the wet noodle spanking.

And somehow I'm sure a few JJ & JG jokes will come from this as well.

08-22-2008, 09:37 PM	#2102
gvervoren Garry Vervoren Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Green Bay Wisconsin Posts: 2,878	Re: NASCAR thread All this bickering is about Toyota but I would bet that there is a lot of cheating going on with all the makes. The thing is, they just never got caught yet. __________________ >>>Garry Vervoren<<< 2004 Dark Shadow Grey ORIGINAL OWNER!!!! *I USED TO THINK BEING LAZY WAS BAD FOR ME SO I GAVE UP THINKING.* *HOOFBEATS ARE LOUDER THAN HEARTBEATS* 5 Speed, IUP, Tinted windows, 3rd brake light decal, Sequential Tail Lights, Smoked Tail Lights, Black Stainless Steel Bumper Inserts, Anthracite 18" staggard FR500 Build Date 10/08/2003 #567 of a build of 7182

08-22-2008, 10:10 PM	#2103
falcongtho3 Moderating at Mach 1 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, La. Posts: 16,272	Re: NASCAR thread Toyota wasn't cheating by making big HP numbers, they were just making more power than NASCAR thought prudent for a race where cars are supposed to have parity. Toyota chose to try to fake their test numbers by modifying the pedals with magnets so that they would get told by NASCAR what changes to make, but still secretly make more power than they were suposed to. That's the error in their ways, and that's when they cheated. They still should have gotten slapped down harder for that. __________________ Krewe de la Mach Rouge #340804 13th Mach 1 built 11/07/02 Build Date 12/13/02 Delivery

08-23-2008, 01:36 PM	#2109
G Undocumented Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Enterprise, AL Posts: 15,828	Re: NASCAR thread I avoided the results of the truck race until last night when I caught the first half of the thing on Speed. I didn't like the ending when I checked out the vids this morning. I missed the NW race and checked the vids for it too, that ending was ok for me. I noticed the hit list for that rookie truck racer "Jim Johnson" had #51 on it like 5 times. So finally JJ does something I like. __________________ _____________________________________________ 2003 Mach1 AB 5spd 2004 Mach1 TR 5spd (sold) 1933 Ford 3W Coupe (4.6 dohc Stack Injection) 2003 Cobra TR (sold) 2014 Mustang GT (Track Pack) in Black

08-23-2008, 09:21 PM	#2114
Thunderbolt And Leadfoot Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Easy Street Posts: 6,468	Re: NASCAR thread When they widened the track 3 feet last year they really ruined the tradition of nail biting racing at Bristol. ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.................. __________________ '23 Fighter Jet Gray Mach 1 (Automatic, 470hp/410tq) '04 Azure Blue Mach 1 (5Spd., 305hp/320tq) '17 Blue Streak Dodge Ram 1500 Quad Cab 4X4 (Automatic, 395hp/410tq) "She's An Underage Angel With A Dented Halo"-She Needs Rock n Roll---Motley Crue Every now and then, say What The F*. What The F*, gives you freedom. With freedom comes opportunity. Opportunity, makes your future. If you can't say it.......you can't do it.----Miles

08-23-2008, 11:28 PM	#2117
G Undocumented Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Enterprise, AL Posts: 15,828	Re: NASCAR thread Way to go Carl __________________ _____________________________________________ 2003 Mach1 AB 5spd 2004 Mach1 TR 5spd (sold) 1933 Ford 3W Coupe (4.6 dohc Stack Injection) 2003 Cobra TR (sold) 2014 Mustang GT (Track Pack) in Black

08-23-2008, 11:31 PM	#2118
G Undocumented Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Enterprise, AL Posts: 15,828	Re: NASCAR thread Big ears needs to try to hit Carl --- OUTSIDE THE CAR!!! __________________ _____________________________________________ 2003 Mach1 AB 5spd 2004 Mach1 TR 5spd (sold) 1933 Ford 3W Coupe (4.6 dohc Stack Injection) 2003 Cobra TR (sold) 2014 Mustang GT (Track Pack) in Black

08-23-2008, 11:43 PM	#2119
Thunderbolt And Leadfoot Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Easy Street Posts: 6,468	Re: NASCAR thread "MICHAEL WALTRIP IS THE ABSOLUTE WORST DRIVER IN NASCAR!" I thought that was funny as hell when that spotter or criew chief said that. But it's the truth. Even though he did'nt cause that accident. The race was still good. A truly classy answer by Carl about the tap and run he gave Bush. It would be gret to see Carl win it all. __________________ '23 Fighter Jet Gray Mach 1 (Automatic, 470hp/410tq) '04 Azure Blue Mach 1 (5Spd., 305hp/320tq) '17 Blue Streak Dodge Ram 1500 Quad Cab 4X4 (Automatic, 395hp/410tq) "She's An Underage Angel With A Dented Halo"-She Needs Rock n Roll---Motley Crue Every now and then, say What The F*. What The F*, gives you freedom. With freedom comes opportunity. Opportunity, makes your future. If you can't say it.......you can't do it.----Miles

08-24-2008, 12:32 AM	#2120
gvervoren Garry Vervoren Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Green Bay Wisconsin Posts: 2,878	Re: NASCAR thread Carl is my hero!!! I too like the way he answered about the bump and run. LOL __________________ >>>Garry Vervoren<<< 2004 Dark Shadow Grey ORIGINAL OWNER!!!! *I USED TO THINK BEING LAZY WAS BAD FOR ME SO I GAVE UP THINKING.* *HOOFBEATS ARE LOUDER THAN HEARTBEATS* 5 Speed, IUP, Tinted windows, 3rd brake light decal, Sequential Tail Lights, Smoked Tail Lights, Black Stainless Steel Bumper Inserts, Anthracite 18" staggard FR500 Build Date 10/08/2003 #567 of a build of 7182

08-24-2008, 08:03 AM	#2122
falcongtho3 Moderating at Mach 1 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, La. Posts: 16,272	Re: NASCAR thread Looks like Dumbo got owned by Mr. Ed. Kyle showed what a 'class' act he really is. And if anyone thinks otherwise, he's the one that called called down by NASCAR, not Carl. It's on, and I think Carl should be given plenty of credit for kepping it close and his crew chief applauded for getting the car where it shold be for the last segment of the race. Gibbs Racing need to be ashamed for not only being cheaters, but bad losers. They don't deserve a championship. They may back into one, but it isn't a deserved one. And congrats to JJ for such a great race (sorry, Ylo...had to do it , just for you! ), even though JG managed to have a respectable race, he didn't really seemed thrilled by it...odd. The comment about Waltrip was the absolute highlight of the night, though! __________________ Krewe de la Mach Rouge #340804 13th Mach 1 built 11/07/02 Build Date 12/13/02 Delivery

08-24-2008, 09:49 AM	#2123
ylopony Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,043	Re: NASCAR thread I love both of the comments that Edwards and "Buschleague" said after the race. Here is what Edwards had to say. "It's one of those deals where I couldn't get by him, I couldn't get by him, and I just had to ask myself, 'Would he do that to me?' Obviously the answer was your darn right Dumbo would have done it. And here is what Buschleague had to say. "He hit me getting into Turn 1," Busch said. "Whatever. Carl's going to say he's sorry, that he didn't want to race that way, but he always does. We'll take it, we'll go on and we'll race him that way in the Chase if that's the way he wants to race." I'm sorry here, but there is an old saying that all of us know very well, What goes around comes around. Well Kyle, these guys out there know you, how classless you are, and what you would do to them. Why do they know this. Because you have repeatedly knocked cars off the track in your career. If you treat a driver with respect most will return the favor. Drive like it's a Saturday night demolition derby at the county fair and that is what the other drivers are going to do to you when they have the chance. Also Kyle Buschleague, great show of class once again. Your ramming Edwards after the race is very typical of your classlessness. So was your post race comments. There is a difference between racing with attitude and being classless, you are the later. What a waste of great talent with your immaturity and classlessness. Despite what most of you may think, I do like team Roush. Biffle and Edwards are my two favorite from that camp. If it's not going to be JJ or JG at the finish first It suits me fine to see those two get there first.

08-24-2008, 09:58 AM	#2124
birdman941 Torque wins! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 13,167	Re: NASCAR thread I hope ASSCAR fines Dumbo and takes away 200 points, puts him on probation, and spanks him with a wet noodle. Or maybe throws wet rice at him I suppose. __________________ The ORIGINAL Project R build thread is back ! 5.4 32V NA Streetable 404/387 26.56 MPG "I don't like repeat offenders, I like DEAD offenders" Ted Nugent "A big engine hardly working is more efficient than a little engine screaming its head off" Jay Leno

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