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04VAMach1 · 06-12-2007, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ylopony

Your right, no doubt about it. In fact Gordon after the race said that the car was really not a top 5 car that day. But great drivers with good teams find ways to steal a win and this is what happened. Crews can cost a driver a race big time, just ask Denny Hamlin about that.

With the amount of talent at this level of racing, it is more about being at the right place at the right time than any skill. Whether we like their personality or not, every driver on the track has proven themselves and is a candidate to win any race. It's just a matter of luck.

02mach1 · 06-12-2007, 01:01 PM

Wait until the case, lets see who going win Championship, it will not be Hentricks cars, it's going be good old Roush and Matt 17# to win it all.

ylopony · 06-12-2007, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 04VAMach1

With the amount of talent at this level of racing, it is more about being at the right place at the right time than any skill. Whether we like their personality or not, every driver on the track has proven themselves and is a candidate to win any race. It's just a matter of luck.

Overall, I'd have to disagree with you. It still takes the talent to drive and the crew with good equipment to win a race. Luck always has some part of the equation. However, talent still creates the luck.

On just about every race day with the entire field about half of them have any real chance to win the race. The car has to be top notch, the crew top notch, and the driver top notch to measure up to the likes of a Gordon, Stewart, Johnson, Kenseth, Martin just to name a few. These are the guys that win week in and week out.

However, I will agree with you that the skills of the drivers are proven. Even the worst driver is a very good one.

04VAMach1 · 06-12-2007, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ylopony

Overall, I'd have to disagree with you. It still takes the talent to drive and the crew with good equipment to win a race. Luck always has some part of the equation. However, talent still creates the luck.

On just about every race day with the entire field about half of them have any real chance to win the race. The car has to be top notch, the crew top notch, and the driver top notch to measure up to the likes of a Gordon, Stewart, Johnson, Kenseth, Martin just to name a few. These are the guys that win week in and week out.

However, I will agree with you that the skills of the drivers are proven. Even the worst driver is a very good one.

OK, I'll concede that at least half the field can win on any given day.

There's more luck involved than you are giving credit towards...Gordon won because the rain came down while he was in the lead. Had the rain held off for 5 laps, do you think he would have won? I agree that he was good enough to be where he was at that time, but it was pure luck that he was able to be there when the race was called.

Then you have other cars taking out contenders, mechanical failures, debris damage, pit road mishaps...the list is endless. Some of it is experience, but a lot of it is pure luck avoiding the things that take a car out of contention.

Just ask any driver out there...they would rather be lucky than good any day.

Thunderbolt · 06-12-2007, 04:31 PM

I just saw a disgusting rumor on another site that said Jr. is gonna announce tomorrow that he is going to be in the #5 car for Hendricks next year

. I feel real sorry for Jr. fans if that's true. Of course Jr. fans will be kissing Hendricks butt if he wins a title with them.

ylopony · 06-12-2007, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunderbolt

I just saw a disgusting rumor on another site that said Jr. is gonna announce tomorrow that he is going to be in the #5 car for Hendricks next year

. I feel real sorry for Jr. fans if that's true. Of course Jr. fans will be kissing Hendricks butt if he wins a title with them.

That would be awesome news. Kyle Busch is the only driver in the Hendricks team that I can't stand. Perhaps Kyle can go race Toyota's next year. But I doubt there is any truth to it.

gvervoren · 06-12-2007, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunderbolt

I just saw a disgusting rumor on another site that said Jr. is gonna announce tomorrow that he is going to be in the #5 car for Hendricks next year

. I feel real sorry for Jr. fans if that's true. Of course Jr. fans will be kissing Hendricks butt if he wins a title with them.

I had heard a few weeks back that Hendricks wasn't really interested because they had no plans on changing any drivers for next year. I guess you never really know though.

FEARED · 06-12-2007, 05:49 PM

I wonder what sponsor would pick him up?? And i cant imagine him with Hendrick.. just because i always thought there was a rival with him and Hendrick.

weaver · 06-12-2007, 06:57 PM

Looks like Jr. is going to Hendrick.

gvervoren · 06-12-2007, 09:21 PM

Just read this article.

jr. to HMS

G · 06-12-2007, 10:19 PM

Ginn, RCR, JGR, or HMS in that order.

ylopony · 06-12-2007, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FEARED

I wonder what sponsor would pick him up?? And i cant imagine him with Hendrick.. just because i always thought there was a rival with him and Hendrick.

I'm not so sure that there ever was a rival. I think the so called rival is the intense dislike for Gordon that many Earnhardt fans have. They have this misconceived conception that Dale Sr. hated Gordon.

I personally think this would be awesome. I like Gordon, Johnson, starting to like Mears the more I watch him, and like Earnhardt Jr. Kyle Busch was the only driver with Hendricks that I hated to see do well. Can't stand the punk just like I can't stand his punk brother.

I'm sure that if this turns out to be true tomorrow the army of red is going to have some serious rumbling. I can imagine next year in Daytona: Earnhardt fans cheering on Gordon as he helps to draft and push Earnhardt to a Daytona victory in his first race with Hendricks.

falcongtho3 · 06-12-2007, 10:51 PM

Wooo...hoo! Another great reason for me to hate (OK...seriously dislike) the entire Henricks organization even more than I already did! It'll be really funny if Kyle ends up with DEI and end up in a car with the #8 on the side! Boy, can I see some tatoo parlours getting some serious business overnight! Can't wait to hear not only the official annoucement, but Kyles take on the whoel affair.

Blackpony04 · 06-12-2007, 11:03 PM

Budweiser #25 like in the old days is what I see. Kyle gone, Mears in #5.

And it will be just like that commercial where Junior joked about changing his number and everyone went nuts!

ylopony · 06-13-2007, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackpony04

Budweiser #25 like in the old days is what I see. Kyle gone, Mears in #5.

And it will be just like that commercial where Junior joked about changing his number and everyone went nuts!

That would be nice to see him in the #25 with Budweiser and Mears moved to the #5 car. That is the rumor that I'm reading.

As for Budweiser, I'm sure they are going to move with Dale and not stay with DEI. It would be a mistake to not follow the most popular driver who will be moving to the top racing team in Nascar.

weaver · 06-13-2007, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ylopony

I'm not so sure that there ever was a rival. I think the so called rival is the intense dislike for Gordon that many Earnhardt fans have. They have this misconceived conception that Dale Sr. hated Gordon.

Not all of us. There are some of us Earnhardt fans who have an undertsanding of Gordon and Sr's relationship. I've been an Earnhardt forever and have pulled for Gordon on many ocassions. I couldn't stand Jr. when he hit the scene. I thought he didn't have any talent and was only in NASCAR because of his dad. Of course he's been my driver for years now and I take more sh!t for being a fan of his. People still think if you're a Jr. fan then you must have jumped on the bandwagon.

falcongtho3 · 06-13-2007, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ylopony

That would be nice to see him in the #25 with Budweiser and Mears moved to the #5 car. That is the rumor that I'm reading.

As for Budweiser, I'm sure they are going to move with Dale and not stay with DEI. It would be a mistake to not follow the most popular driver who will be moving to the top racing team in Nascar.

It'll all come out later today, and I agree with you on the Bud idea but it doesn't sound like that is a lock...oddly enough. If I were Budweiser, I'd be wherever I needed to be so that I could stay in the Jr. camp. I'm wondering about the future of Tony Eury, Jr. as well ???
http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/head...ans/index.html

04VAMach1 · 06-13-2007, 01:10 PM

It's official...Kyle Busch doesn't have ride next year

We still don't know what # or if Budweiser will follow him, but Jr made the announcement

FEARED · 06-13-2007, 05:32 PM

crazyness!!

pic18 · 06-13-2007, 05:59 PM

Gordon fans and Junior fans, it's time to unite! There's barely any reason for the rest of the field to show up anymore. Imagine a talented dirver in the 5 car who isn't going to wreck it every race. This will make for a really cool team t-shirt!

gvervoren · 06-13-2007, 09:39 PM

Yup. It is official now. Jr. will be with HMS. Here is one article.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?...yhoo&type=lgns

Azure Blurr · 06-13-2007, 10:03 PM

I think I just got a little sick!

ylopony · 06-13-2007, 10:05 PM

What's interesting with Hendricks sponsors. They are all signed through next year. I'm sure that DEI is going to make a serious push to keep Budweiser in their camp. Think of the irony if Kyle Busch were to drive the Budweiser car and Kurt Busch in his Miller Lite car.

I have to admit, as a Nascar fan I'm excited that Dale Jr. will be joining the team with Gordon and Johnson. That is an awesome lineup. And Mears is showing some talent as well. Now if only Hendricks cars were Fords and winning, that would be utopia. :HOPPY:

G · 06-13-2007, 10:12 PM

I was just in the yard talking to my neighbor who WAS a huge JR fan. When I asked about the JR move he said who, I say "Dale JR" and he says, "he's dead to me."

Now that's just silly. I would gladly drive a HMS car, even the 24, and actually you could even call me Geoff Gordon. I would love the booing all the way to the bank.

ylopony · 06-13-2007, 10:24 PM

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Now that's just silly. I would gladly drive a HMS car, even the 24, and actually you could even call me Geoff Gordon. I would love the booing all the way to the bank.

Jr joining Hedricks, this is like Mrs. Hatfield jumping in the sack with Mr. Mccoy

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06-12-2007, 04:31 PM	#730
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06-12-2007, 05:49 PM	#733
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06-12-2007, 06:57 PM	#734
weaver mustangs rule Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,123	Re: NASCAR thread Looks like Jr. is going to Hendrick.

06-12-2007, 09:21 PM	#735
gvervoren Garry Vervoren Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Green Bay Wisconsin Posts: 2,878	Re: NASCAR thread Just read this article. jr. to HMS __________________ >>>Garry Vervoren<<< 2004 Dark Shadow Grey ORIGINAL OWNER!!!! *I USED TO THINK BEING LAZY WAS BAD FOR ME SO I GAVE UP THINKING.* *HOOFBEATS ARE LOUDER THAN HEARTBEATS* 5 Speed, IUP, Tinted windows, 3rd brake light decal, Sequential Tail Lights, Smoked Tail Lights, Black Stainless Steel Bumper Inserts, Anthracite 18" staggard FR500 Build Date 10/08/2003 #567 of a build of 7182 Last edited by gvervoren; 10-14-2007 at 08:42 AM.

06-12-2007, 10:19 PM	#736
G Undocumented Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Enterprise, AL Posts: 15,828	Re: NASCAR thread Ginn, RCR, JGR, or HMS in that order. __________________ _____________________________________________ 2003 Mach1 AB 5spd 2004 Mach1 TR 5spd (sold) 1933 Ford 3W Coupe (4.6 dohc Stack Injection) 2003 Cobra TR (sold) 2014 Mustang GT (Track Pack) in Black

06-12-2007, 10:51 PM	#738
falcongtho3 Moderating at Mach 1 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, La. Posts: 16,272	Re: NASCAR thread Wooo...hoo! Another great reason for me to hate (OK...seriously dislike) the entire Henricks organization even more than I already did! It'll be really funny if Kyle ends up with DEI and end up in a car with the #8 on the side! Boy, can I see some tatoo parlours getting some serious business overnight! Can't wait to hear not only the official annoucement, but Kyles take on the whoel affair. __________________ Krewe de la Mach Rouge #340804 13th Mach 1 built 11/07/02 Build Date 12/13/02 Delivery

06-12-2007, 11:03 PM	#739
Blackpony04 Free Thanks to the Brave! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Niagara County, NY Posts: 3,220	Re: NASCAR thread Budweiser #25 like in the old days is what I see. Kyle gone, Mears in #5. And it will be just like that commercial where Junior joked about changing his number and everyone went nuts! __________________ Mark Recovering Mach Addict

06-13-2007, 01:10 PM	#743
04VAMach1 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Midlothian, VA Posts: 2,617	Re: NASCAR thread It's official...Kyle Busch doesn't have ride next year We still don't know what # or if Budweiser will follow him, but Jr made the announcement

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06-13-2007, 05:59 PM	#745
pic18 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Cumberland,RI Posts: 590	Re: NASCAR thread Gordon fans and Junior fans, it's time to unite! There's barely any reason for the rest of the field to show up anymore. Imagine a talented dirver in the 5 car who isn't going to wreck it every race. This will make for a really cool team t-shirt! __________________ Jeff's All American Car Page 2004 Black Mach1 Sold 2008 Pontiac G8 GT Magnetic Gray Metallic Sold 2009 Pontiac G8 GT Liquid Red 2011 Z71 Silverado

06-13-2007, 09:39 PM	#746
gvervoren Garry Vervoren Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Green Bay Wisconsin Posts: 2,878	Re: NASCAR thread Yup. It is official now. Jr. will be with HMS. Here is one article. http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?...yhoo&type=lgns __________________ >>>Garry Vervoren<<< 2004 Dark Shadow Grey ORIGINAL OWNER!!!! *I USED TO THINK BEING LAZY WAS BAD FOR ME SO I GAVE UP THINKING.* *HOOFBEATS ARE LOUDER THAN HEARTBEATS* 5 Speed, IUP, Tinted windows, 3rd brake light decal, Sequential Tail Lights, Smoked Tail Lights, Black Stainless Steel Bumper Inserts, Anthracite 18" staggard FR500 Build Date 10/08/2003 #567 of a build of 7182

06-13-2007, 10:03 PM	#747
Azure Blurr I miss my friend Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Middle Georgia Posts: 6,020	Re: NASCAR thread I think I just got a little sick!

06-13-2007, 10:05 PM	#748
ylopony Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,043	Re: NASCAR thread What's interesting with Hendricks sponsors. They are all signed through next year. I'm sure that DEI is going to make a serious push to keep Budweiser in their camp. Think of the irony if Kyle Busch were to drive the Budweiser car and Kurt Busch in his Miller Lite car. I have to admit, as a Nascar fan I'm excited that Dale Jr. will be joining the team with Gordon and Johnson. That is an awesome lineup. And Mears is showing some talent as well. Now if only Hendricks cars were Fords and winning, that would be utopia. :HOPPY:

06-13-2007, 10:12 PM	#749
G Undocumented Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Enterprise, AL Posts: 15,828	Re: NASCAR thread I was just in the yard talking to my neighbor who WAS a huge JR fan. When I asked about the JR move he said who, I say "Dale JR" and he says, "he's dead to me." Now that's just silly. I would gladly drive a HMS car, even the 24, and actually you could even call me Geoff Gordon. I would love the booing all the way to the bank. __________________ _____________________________________________ 2003 Mach1 AB 5spd 2004 Mach1 TR 5spd (sold) 1933 Ford 3W Coupe (4.6 dohc Stack Injection) 2003 Cobra TR (sold) 2014 Mustang GT (Track Pack) in Black

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