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02-21-2006, 10:45 PM | #1 |
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Trade the Mach 1 for a GTO before it's too late!!!
Pontiac will drop the GTO this year
DETROIT -- General Motors has told Pontiac dealers that it will discontinue the GTO coupe at the end of this model year. GM will make the last deliveries of the vehicle to dealers by the end of September, sources close to Pontiac say. GM will produce 10,000 to 12,000 more GTOs before dropping the nameplate, one source close to the situation says. Last year, Pontiac sold 11,590 GTOs compared to 2004 when it sold 13,569. That's a 14.6 percent drop. When Pontiac launched the GTO in 2003, it projected 18,000 annual sales. The vehicle was criticized for bland styling, and some fans of the original GTO complained that it lacked nostalgic styling cues. "For the remaining life of the car, it simply wasn't worth the engineering expense or effort to re-certify it as an '07 for a very limited run, when we could continue selling them as '06s," says a source close to GM who is familiar with the program. The GTO is built on a rear-wheel drive architecture from GM's Holden division in Australia. The present model is going out of production as GM constructs the new Zeta RWD architecture, says the source. There is no replacement coupe planned at this time and because of the strong Australian and weak U.S. dollar, the GTO had to be priced thousands over where GM originally wanted it -- in the mid-twenties, the source says. "It never did as much volume as we had hoped," the source says. The GTO suggested retail price starts at $31,990, including shipping. One GM source says, "the 2005 and 2006 were pretty well sold out, and sales were especially strong in areas of GM weakness, like Southern California. It's a shame it has to go -- for now." Another source says that GM has indicated that it would like to have another vehicle in that "space" in the future.
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02-21-2006, 10:48 PM | #2 |
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Re: Trade the Mach 1 for a GTO before it's too late!!!
Good info, but I'll keep my Mach
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02-21-2006, 10:52 PM | #3 |
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Re: Trade the Mach 1 for a GTO before it's too late!!!
Why does this not suprise me.
It is a shame too. Other than the styling issues, it seems like a solid performer. Not my taste, but I hate to see any RWD muscle car with a good engine/drivetrain go away... How cool would it be to see in the next 5 years the 475hp Shelby Mustang, a 400+ hp Goat, a 400+Hp challenger, a 400hp Camaro, and a 400hp Mach or Boss or other middle tier Mustang... We need the Muscle car to live...even if it is ugly like the goat. Keeps Ford improving our favorite... JMHO
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02-21-2006, 11:03 PM | #4 |
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Re: Trade the Mach 1 for a GTO before it's too late!!!
Opens the door for the Firebird/Camaro. Go long enough without a performance coupe and maybe people will be beating down your door to get one.
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02-21-2006, 11:03 PM | #5 |
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Re: Trade the Mach 1 for a GTO before it's too late!!!
no...wait....before long they will be so cheap you can have both a Mach and the goat.
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02-21-2006, 11:13 PM | #6 | |
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Re: Trade the Mach 1 for a GTO before it's too late!!!
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To bad the GTO is leaving, I always like them but not more than the Mach.
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02-21-2006, 11:36 PM | #7 |
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Re: Trade the Mach 1 for a GTO before it's too late!!!
That sux, but as some have suggested already, this definatly looks good for a new Camaro and/or Firebird to appear.
RIP '04-'06 GTO |
02-21-2006, 11:53 PM | #8 | |
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02-22-2006, 12:20 AM | #9 |
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Re: Trade the Mach 1 for a GTO before it's too late!!!
the only thing i like about that car is the interior, 400hp isnt bad either but not when 100 hp short machs are running with them
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02-22-2006, 01:10 AM | #10 | |
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02-22-2006, 03:33 AM | #11 | |
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02-22-2006, 08:17 AM | #12 | |
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02-22-2006, 08:25 AM | #13 |
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Re: Trade the Mach 1 for a GTO before it's too late!!!
If I could get a good price on a Goat I'd trade my daily driver.
My Mach stays, but a daily driver would work just fine for me.
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02-22-2006, 09:21 AM | #14 | |
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02-22-2006, 10:23 AM | #15 |
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Re: Trade the Mach 1 for a GTO before it's too late!!!
no way!!!! there fugley
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02-22-2006, 10:28 AM | #16 | |
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Re: Trade the Mach 1 for a GTO before it's too late!!!
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J/K... but I could really only agree with about 5-10% of your post.
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02-22-2006, 10:35 AM | #17 | |
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I have no issues with my Mach for sound issues. I like the sound and feel of a sports car. If I wanted luxury, I would have bought a Lincoln / Benz type class of vehicle.
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02-22-2006, 12:25 PM | #18 |
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Re: Trade the Mach 1 for a GTO before it's too late!!!
koreans make a better car then the germans. its like buying a name like BMW. with a few exceptions of course, like porsche. now who is up for a KIA... so dont get caught up in "german" cars.
we have a 04 Range Rover HSE and we cant keep that thing out of the shop and it is a BMW product, now ford, but not in 04. so thats German Engineering for us. |
02-22-2006, 12:58 PM | #19 | |
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02-22-2006, 01:06 PM | #20 | |
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02-22-2006, 02:21 PM | #21 | |
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All that said : It still looks like a Cavalier ! I dont care what you throw on it spoilers , rims , body fascia , whatever . It will still look like a cavalier. There is no way that thing looks like a Muscle Car . The motor pkg. is great and has plenty of potential but it will still looks like a cavalier . I knew it would die the first time i saw it . I like my Mach dont get me wrong . I like other cars as well . The new Challenger looks great with a big motor pkg.. 06 Zo6 is quite nice as well . Pontiac should of tried a different old school look ! There mistake .
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02-22-2006, 03:14 PM | #22 |
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Re: Trade the Mach 1 for a GTO before it's too late!!!
Sad thing is:
I would buy an 06 GTO before I would buy an 06 Mustang GT.
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02-22-2006, 03:19 PM | #23 |
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Re: Trade the Mach 1 for a GTO before it's too late!!!
No way would I consider a GTO. My Mach fit the bill perfectly for what it was designed for. An American hotrod! :THUMBSUP:
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02-22-2006, 03:25 PM | #24 |
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Re: Trade the Mach 1 for a GTO before it's too late!!!
maybe its just me but lets think about this, a 05 GTO is like a 03/04 cobra infact its d@mn close.
T56, ~400hp, IRS, 4 seats, very opinionated looks *love it or hate it*. so a mach and a GTO isnt even a "fair" comparison, because technically the cobra is the "fastest" mustang, and machs are still kickin GTO @$$ with less than 300rwhp i might add, now you tell me whose are was "engineered" to go fast? and by the way i like my interior |
02-22-2006, 03:34 PM | #25 |
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Re: Trade the Mach 1 for a GTO before it's too late!!!
To me part of what makes a muscle car a muscle car is the image. The GTO was sorely lacking in image. Great power, nice interior, would make a nice daily driver. But when I want to cruise the streets at night, the GTO would not do it for me.
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