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Old 11-27-2013, 01:25 PM   #1
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351 Cleveland Open Chamber vs Closed Chamber heads

I converted my '70 4bbl Cleveland to open chamber heads so that I don't have to buy Premium gasoline. I'm happy with the performance but wonder how much power did I give up. Anybody got any idea?
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Old 11-28-2013, 10:04 AM   #2
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Re: 351 Cleveland Open Chamber vs Closed Chamber heads

You went from 11:1 to around 9.5:1. You lost around 40 HP. Maybe even a little more. Is it just a 4V motor or a CJ, Boss?
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Old 11-28-2013, 12:10 PM   #3
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Re: 351 Cleveland Open Chamber vs Closed Chamber heads

Thanks for the reply Roy.
The first one I was a '70 stock M code. The next is a stock '73 Q code CJ. Other than model-year and 4-bolt mains is there any difference?
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Old 11-30-2013, 05:25 AM   #4
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Re: 351 Cleveland Open Chamber vs Closed Chamber heads

I'm curious to know why you've chosen open chamber as opposed to closed chamber heads?
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Re: 351 Cleveland Open Chamber vs Closed Chamber heads

The lower compression allows me to use regular gas.
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Old 11-30-2013, 02:10 PM   #6
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Re: 351 Cleveland Open Chamber vs Closed Chamber heads

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Thanks for the reply Roy.
The first one I was a '70 stock M code. The next is a stock '73 Q code CJ. Other than model-year and 4-bolt mains is there any difference?
Im pretty sure the CJ had the big valves and runners like the 4V but had open chambers like the 2V. Some M codes were 4 bolt also. I used to be big into the 351 Cleveland and could tell you all the differences but its been a long time.
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Old 11-30-2013, 03:19 PM   #7
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The lower compression allows me to use regular gas.
Okay, I thought it may have been another reason other than that...
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Old 11-30-2013, 03:33 PM   #8
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Im pretty sure the CJ had the big valves and runners like the 4V but had open chambers like the 2V. Some M codes were 4 bolt also. I used to be big into the 351 Cleveland and could tell you all the differences but its been a long time.
Yes, and hardened valve seats.
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Old 12-02-2013, 01:05 PM   #9
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Re: 351 Cleveland Open Chamber vs Closed Chamber heads

Unrealford could you expand a bit on the hardened valve seats? Did the '73CJ have them?
I also posted a question on notching the shock towers.
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