Is a Catback system enough alone? - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

jonathan.ramsey · 12-04-2007, 03:55 PM

I want to put on Borla Stingers. Is that enough alone? or do you really need a aftermarket H pipe, and/or headers? (please give me both your opinion on sound and performance)

Nor Cal Mach · 12-04-2007, 04:07 PM

It that enough for what??? What are you trying to to make power or sound or what? some info would be nice. If you are looking for sound go to youtube or streetfire

jonathan.ramsey · 12-04-2007, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bay Area Mach

It that enough for what??? What are you trying to to make power or sound or what? some info would be nice. If you are looking for sound go to youtube or streetfire

Well mostly sound, but power is always great too. I am really wondering if just the catback alone would give me that great musclecar sound, or if you really need the aftermarket H pipe to get the full effect.

rdewalt · 12-04-2007, 04:18 PM

I installed the K&N CAI and Magnaflow Cat-back the same day and noticed an improvement right away. It was a couple of months later I installed my Pypes catted-X pipe and although I have no dyno sheets to back up my feelings I’d say the catted-X really woke up my car. I have a 04 and many have stated because of the double brick secondary cat’s on the 04’s you notice more of a improvement over the 03 with a single brick secondary cat.

jonathan.ramsey · 12-04-2007, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rdewalt

I installed the K&N CAI and Magnaflow Cat-back the same day and noticed an improvement right away. It was a couple of months later I installed my Pypes catted-X pipe and although I have no dyno sheets to back up my feelings I’d say the catted-X really woke up my car. I have a 04 and many have stated because of the double brick secondary cat’s on the 04’s you notice more of a improvement over the 03 with a single brick secondary cat.

Since mine is an 04 too, it sounds like if you can afford it just do both. I've though about doing the CAI too. Maybe I'll just make one big project out of it and do all three. Thanks

Mustanger2 · 12-04-2007, 04:29 PM

It will sound nice with just the Stinger catback...loud at WOT...but nice and deep at idle...no drone

Now if you want REALLY loud add the off road H pipe! I like both ways...

dlandry427 · 12-04-2007, 05:20 PM

It's never enough. Once you start modding, it will never be enough

JDraper · 12-04-2007, 05:39 PM

My exhaust is stock with a Borla Stinger cat back on it and I love the way it sounds!! Nice deep rumble with a great burble on deceleration!

2k4mach · 12-04-2007, 06:20 PM

catback is more sound than anything

Unrealford · 12-04-2007, 08:58 PM

I cant wait to install my Bassani x pipe w/Cats

machery · 12-04-2007, 09:06 PM

Go ahead and spend the little extra and do the H or X pipe at the same time and be done with it. You'll be glad you did.

toad · 12-04-2007, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jonathan.ramsey

Well mostly sound, but power is always great too. I am really wondering if just the catback alone would give me that great musclecar sound, or if you really need the aftermarket H pipe to get the full effect.

I ran for a few months with just the Borla catback. The sould was pretty good. I had it dyno'd before and after adding a magnaflow catted X. The X gave me +20rwhp and made the car much louder. Next is longtubes but that will be after I wear this clutch out and when I find a good tuner around here.

Just1More · 12-04-2007, 11:27 PM

I ran the stingers for about 8 months and loved the sound as it was. When I got my longtubes installed I went with a new H pipe. And there is quite a bit difference now. I enjoyed the first setup, but now it is just perfect.

It also depends on if you are planning any other mods down the line. Consider your future plans for the car, that way you prevent buying parts multiple times.

Lonestar7 · 12-05-2007, 12:42 AM

I ran Stingers stock for awhile then added a used Bassani catted x pipe. When you add the mid pipe you will feel the added power and the sound is awesome. My cats finally died so I replaced my X pipe with a catted Pypes x and I am happy with it also. I went with the cheaper pipe since I plan on headers and will be using another mid pipe with the headers. The only problem with the Mach 1 is the more you mod the harder it is to stop. Each mod I have added has just added to my enjoyment of the car.

LS

jbrad88 · 12-05-2007, 07:44 AM

Enough is a relative term...you will traditionally pick up between 5-10 rwhp with a good low-restriction cat-back. Mostly they are for sound and will help once modifications reach a certain point. I recommend starting there and then working to more if you need more

TJ4Cam · 12-05-2007, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Just1More

I ran the stingers for about 8 months and loved the sound as it was. When I got my longtubes installed I went with a new H pipe. And there is quite a bit difference now. I enjoyed the first setup, but now it is just perfect.

It also depends on if you are planning any other mods down the line. Consider your future plans for the car, that way you prevent buying parts multiple times.

Whatever man, just you sell me that SVO of yours!!

Keith.red.mach1 · 12-05-2007, 09:38 AM

Headers give more power than any other part of the exhaust.

H pipes give more power than catbacks, but plan ahead. I added an off road h pipe and then when I went long tubes I had to change to an h pipe that matched. So do some searching on power gains and decide if you would be willing to spend around $1000 for just long tubes and install(cheap brand).

For the budget minded, off road h-pipe with weld in mufflers in stock catback and most of the time that satisfies you till you get the itch to mod again.

I bought all of my stuff used and saved a bunch. Don't be afraid to check out used exhaust.

12-04-2007, 03:55 PM	#1
jonathan.ramsey Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: North Augusta, SC Posts: 136	Is a Catback system enough alone? I want to put on Borla Stingers. Is that enough alone? or do you really need a aftermarket H pipe, and/or headers? (please give me both your opinion on sound and performance) Last edited by jonathan.ramsey; 12-04-2007 at 03:57 PM. Reason: touch up

12-04-2007, 04:07 PM	#2
Nor Cal Mach Mach-O-Haulic Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 716	Re: Is a Catback system enough alone? It that enough for what??? What are you trying to to make power or sound or what? some info would be nice. If you are looking for sound go to youtube or streetfire

12-04-2007, 04:18 PM	#4
rdewalt Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Norco, Ca Posts: 114	Re: Is a Catback system enough alone? I installed the K&N CAI and Magnaflow Cat-back the same day and noticed an improvement right away. It was a couple of months later I installed my Pypes catted-X pipe and although I have no dyno sheets to back up my feelings I’d say the catted-X really woke up my car. I have a 04 and many have stated because of the double brick secondary cat’s on the 04’s you notice more of a improvement over the 03 with a single brick secondary cat. __________________ 04 MACH 1 A/B 5spd IUP RIKX04R 99 Z28 LS1 11 sec. club RIKXZ28 05 RXT 70 MPH on the water

12-04-2007, 04:29 PM	#6
Mustanger2 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Grants Pass, Oregon Posts: 1,777	Re: Is a Catback system enough alone? It will sound nice with just the Stinger catback...loud at WOT...but nice and deep at idle...no drone Now if you want REALLY loud add the off road H pipe! I like both ways... __________________ I drive a slow Mustang....but I drive it Slow....HARD!

12-04-2007, 05:20 PM	#7
dlandry427 Charles U. Farley Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,112	Re: Is a Catback system enough alone? It's never enough. Once you start modding, it will never be enough

12-04-2007, 05:39 PM	#8
JDraper On Permanant Vacation Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: McVeytown, PA Posts: 5,013	Re: Is a Catback system enough alone? My exhaust is stock with a Borla Stinger cat back on it and I love the way it sounds!! Nice deep rumble with a great burble on deceleration! __________________ And then one day you find, 10 years have got behind you, no one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun.. 18 Shelby GT 350 04 Mach 1 (Sold 9/1/2018 ) 18 Ford Explorer XLT 17 Mustang GT/CS Convertible 16 Fusion SE AWD Ecoboost 10 Fusion SE V6 66 289 Mustang Hardtop Restomod

12-04-2007, 06:20 PM	#9
2k4mach LuLz Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cedar Park, TX Posts: 19,294	Re: Is a Catback system enough alone? catback is more sound than anything __________________ 11 Sterling gray GT500 coupe 08 Silver Z06 1058rwhp/1073rwt @ 15psi 14 Silver Q50S Vortech blown 04 DSG Mach 1 (stolen) 03 OW Mach 1 (sitting in a field rotting away)

12-04-2007, 08:58 PM	#10
Unrealford Mustang owner since 1984 Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 4,515	Re: Is a Catback system enough alone? I cant wait to install my Bassani x pipe w/Cats __________________ 2012 Kona Blue Metallic BOSS MOMS Racing... 11.92@115.43 stock besides drag radials http://www.dragzine.com/news/moms-ra...2013-schedule/

12-04-2007, 09:06 PM	#11
machery user Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Alexandria Va Posts: 910	Re: Is a Catback system enough alone? Go ahead and spend the little extra and do the H or X pipe at the same time and be done with it. You'll be glad you did. __________________ 04 mach...sold (still miss it) but will have another soon.

12-04-2007, 11:27 PM	#13
Just1More Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Southern, MD Posts: 309	Re: Is a Catback system enough alone? I ran the stingers for about 8 months and loved the sound as it was. When I got my longtubes installed I went with a new H pipe. And there is quite a bit difference now. I enjoyed the first setup, but now it is just perfect. It also depends on if you are planning any other mods down the line. Consider your future plans for the car, that way you prevent buying parts multiple times. __________________ Current Stable: 04 Mach 1 5spd IUP: Current mods: Stingers, Pro 5.0, Fiore FWA and Quadrant, C&L intake, BBK longtubes and H pipe, Custom tuned, Deep dish 10.5x17 Mach rears. 86 SVO: Bone stock with 986 miles 13 V6: Wife's aka Kermit (Gotta have it green), MCA package Gone but not forgotten: 03 SVT focus (loved that little buggy) 99 Contour SVT 85 Pontiac STE (factory electronic suspension and a dash like rad racer)

12-05-2007, 12:42 AM	#14
Lonestar7 Guest Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 3,152	Re: Is a Catback system enough alone? I ran Stingers stock for awhile then added a used Bassani catted x pipe. When you add the mid pipe you will feel the added power and the sound is awesome. My cats finally died so I replaced my X pipe with a catted Pypes x and I am happy with it also. I went with the cheaper pipe since I plan on headers and will be using another mid pipe with the headers. The only problem with the Mach 1 is the more you mod the harder it is to stop. Each mod I have added has just added to my enjoyment of the car. LS

12-05-2007, 07:44 AM	#15
jbrad88 Original Owner Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,172	Re: Is a Catback system enough alone? Enough is a relative term...you will traditionally pick up between 5-10 rwhp with a good low-restriction cat-back. Mostly they are for sound and will help once modifications reach a certain point. I recommend starting there and then working to more if you need more __________________ JB 03 Torch Red Mach 1 21 FJG Mach 1 Stainless Steel Systems Adrenaline Series BBK long tube headers catted x pipe 18x9 18x10- Solid Gloss Black FR5's Nitto 555 g2 275/35r18's 285/35r18 MGW Shifter With Mach1 Shift Knob 4.10's & 31 spline Mosers and 31 Spline Posi Steeda Sport Springs Tokiko Illuminas J@M weight Jacker LCA's J@M Rear UCA's J@M Braided steel brake lines Eibach Sway Bars

12-05-2007, 09:38 AM	#17
Keith.red.mach1 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: League City, TX Posts: 922	Re: Is a Catback system enough alone? Headers give more power than any other part of the exhaust. H pipes give more power than catbacks, but plan ahead. I added an off road h pipe and then when I went long tubes I had to change to an h pipe that matched. So do some searching on power gains and decide if you would be willing to spend around $1000 for just long tubes and install(cheap brand). For the budget minded, off road h-pipe with weld in mufflers in stock catback and most of the time that satisfies you till you get the itch to mod again. I bought all of my stuff used and saved a bunch. Don't be afraid to check out used exhaust.

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