Official Whipple/KB/Eaton HP/TQ/mods thread:

[03mach281]

Originally Posted by DarkMach1

Nice, I always thought that a line upgrade was necessary. Did you ever dyno before E85? Any gains?

nope line upgrade is not necessary with our cars.

where i live we have crappy 91 so that tune was EXTREMELY conservative and it made 400/378 with like 13 degrees of timing. we added 2.5 degrees and E85 and it made 450405. i could have made more but i didnt want to push it with a stock longblock!

[DarkMach1]

Originally Posted by 03mach281

nope line upgrade is not necessary with our cars.

where i live we have crappy 91 so that tune was EXTREMELY conservative and it made 400/378 with like 13 degrees of timing. we added 2.5 degrees and E85 and it made 450405. i could have made more but i didnt want to push it with a stock longblock!

Thats a good increase for just E85 and retune, makes me wonder, if E85 was only a more abundant.

[04Mach1Blurr]

With an eaton, can you use a bap on the stock fuel system for a stock eaton swap

[Scott McClure]

Originally Posted by 04Mach1Blurr

With an eaton, can you use a bap on the stock fuel system for a stock eaton swap

No.

[vtecDIS]

Originally Posted by Scott McClure

No.

i thought thats how KB does their kit?! im planning to go with a Focus pump with BAP

[Scott McClure]

Originally Posted by vtecDIS

i thought thats how KB does their kit?! im planning to go with a Focus pump with BAP

Focus pump and stock pump as the previous poster was asking about are two different things. And honestly I don't put much stock in what Kenne Bell says is safe.

[vertigyn]

I've been running the stock fuel pump with a KB BAP for about 15,000 miles. No problems so far. Don't see why it wouldn't work for an Eaton swap?

[Scott McClure]

Originally Posted by vertigyn

I've been running the stock fuel pump with a KB BAP for about 15,000 miles. No problems so far. Don't see why it wouldn't work for an Eaton swap?

But on a centrifugal right? And what is your fdc at?

[vertigyn]

Originally Posted by Scott McClure

But on a centrifugal right? And what is your fdc at?

No, the 2.1 KB kit. What's FDC mean?

[Scott McClure]

Originally Posted by vertigyn

No, the 2.1 KB kit. What's FDC mean?

Fuel Pump Duty Cycle.

[vertigyn]

Originally Posted by Scott McClure

Fuel Pump Duty Cycle.

Not sure. How would I be able to find out?

[Scott McClure]

Originally Posted by vertigyn

Not sure. How would I be able to find out?

If you had your car tuned then they could tell you, otherwise you can datalog it yourself.

[TRMach1]

Wow! I bet it's maxed out at WOT, even with the BAP!

[Scott McClure]

Originally Posted by TRMach1

Wow! I bet it's maxed out at WOT, even with the BAP!

Thank you. Exactly the point I was trying to make.

[DarkMach1]

Originally Posted by vertigyn

Not sure. How would I be able to find out?

Oh boy, you better look at that, it can end catastrophic. Plug in your tuner, go to "Datalog", its gonna give you a list of parameters to datalog, just scroll down to fuel pump duty cycle, if I rememeber correctly its in decimals, 0-1.00, anything very close to 1 is a no no.

[04Mach1Blurr]

would a 255 pump work for a stock eaton swap with a bap.

[Scott McClure]

Originally Posted by 04Mach1Blurr

would a 255 pump work for a stock eaton swap with a bap.

You mean a return pump in a returnless setup? Hardly.

[vtecDIS]

or one GT pump and you'll you'll be good as long as your pockets are deep

or even better a Focus w/ BAP. cheaper and just as safe

[04Mach1Blurr]

03/04 cobra hat and pumps will do the trick i suggest then, im on a budget

[TRMach1]

Originally Posted by 04Mach1Blurr

03/04 cobra hat and pumps will do the trick i suggest then, im on a budget

I thought you had the car up for sale?

[04Mach1Blurr]

Originally Posted by TRMach1

I thought you had the car up for sale?

Was thinking about it, still maybe. but for now im supercharging it .. lol

[TRMach1]

Originally Posted by 04Mach1Blurr

Was thinking about it, still maybe. but for now im supercharging it .. lol

Well, I'm just saying once you commit to a project like that, you will be spending dollars that you won't be able to recoup, if you decide to sell it after the build. If you're going to sell it, you should do it before you put that kind of money and effort into it.

[04Mach1Blurr]

Originally Posted by TRMach1

Well, I'm just saying once you commit to a project like that, you will be spending dollars that you won't be able to recoup, if you decide to sell it after the build. If you're going to sell it, you should do it before you put that kind of money and effort into it.

Yea, im not in any delema to sell it. so for not ill keep it and play with the sc. and if i do decide to sell it, ill put everything back to stock. thanks for the look out though. you going to the AM car show?

[TRMach1]

Originally Posted by 04Mach1Blurr

Yea, im not in any delema to sell it. so for not ill keep it and play with the sc. and if i do decide to sell it, ill put everything back to stock. thanks for the look out though. you going to the AM car show?

Yes, I'll be at the car show. Should be good weather, and a fun time, if last years is any indication!

[04Mach1Blurr]

Okay guessing game for possible #'s?
Mac filter,stock termi maf/elbow,stock eaton swap,irs 4.10s swapped, borla stingers,and a bassani catted x pipe. But i can go catless to. Either better? And a diablo tune with kb bap and termi hat/pumps.