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Old 12-07-2004, 04:14 PM   #1
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How to change your 5 speed to an automatic

Here is it, in plain english when possible.
Think this about everything, minus the tranny and converter.
I will add as I remember. This will acheive a stock looking
automatic Mach 1:

1R3Z-7210-AA - Shifter assembly: $174.42
XR3Z-7E395-AA - Trans shift cable assy: $48.24
F6SZ-7007-A - Lower bellhousing cover: $32.47
XR32-7C078-BA - 4R70W wiring harness: $90.00
XR3Z-7B229-AA - Brkt-trans kickdown cable: $9.80
3R3Z-6304567-AAB - Bezel out of Mach 1, I traded for charcoal gray: $170.22
1R3Z-4841-EA - 4R70W driveshaft yoke for tranny tailshaft: $85.38
F1VY-7986-A - ***-Will post desciption up later: $5.70
F8AZ-7G276-AA - Shifter position sensor: $22.27
F6ZZ-3F719-AC - Cable asy-ign shift interlock: $57.18
E43Z-7B415-A - Stud-tr gr sh conn rod adj: $6.18
F1DZ-7H181-A - Fitting-trans shft actu ca: $7.68
1L3Z-7H103-AB - Speed sensor: $22.31
XR3Z-7A228-BA - Fill tube for tranny fluid: $15.83
XR3Z-7A020-BA - Dip stick for fill tube: $19.37
378377-S - Plug button for firewall hole 1.38 dia: $1.91
F2UZ-7H183-A - Plug for the mechanical speed sensor - if not supplied with transmission



Also need:

-8 bolt flexplate. I got mine from Perfomance Automatic for $226.00
-Plug for convertor/flexplate access port on bottom of bellhousing, Ford $4.00
-GT automatic brake pedal, Ford $30.00
-Mach 1 brake pedal cover, Ford $32.00
-B&M 24,000 GVW tranny cooler, Summit $48.00
-Tranny cooler lines and fittings, Auto Zone $40.00
-Switch for overdrive to replace coin holder, Strictly Pro $10.00
-1350 to 1330 u-joint for tailshaft yoke, Auto Zone $30.00
-11/16 driveshaft spacer from Steeda, $20.00










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Old 12-07-2004, 04:17 PM   #2
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The wiring harness is 03 Cobra specific. I would double check
the 3650 harness. I am almost sure they are very close in
design though. Enjoy.
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Old 12-07-2004, 04:35 PM   #3
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If you wanted an auto why did you buy a 5 spd???
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Old 12-07-2004, 04:41 PM   #4
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He he...check my sig.
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Old 12-07-2004, 04:51 PM   #5
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He he...check my sig.
More info on the Fox body rear.
I didn't think they were a direct swap for the 96+?
I guess your ABS is long gone?
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Old 12-07-2004, 05:24 PM   #6
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He he...check my sig.

Um, ok, I dont' see the answer, am I blind?

The question still stands for me. even with a 10 sec. car, if you are going with an auto, it wuldn't be stock anywho....
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Old 12-07-2004, 05:51 PM   #7
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He put an automatic in his cobra, which only come in manual.
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Old 12-07-2004, 05:54 PM   #8
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He put an automatic in his cobra, which only come in manual.
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Since when?
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Old 11-14-2006, 10:01 PM   #9
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Re: How to change your 5 speed to an automatic

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Since when?
if they made cobras in auto i would have one
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Old 08-18-2008, 10:50 PM   #10
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Re: How to change your 5 speed to an automatic

god i want this done so bad but scared i'm going to **** up... i wanted a 5 spd at first but now i wish i never got one. i have a tko500 tranny in it now, but its suchs a hard shifting tranny.... i hate 5 spd, and will never owe another one...
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Old 08-30-2008, 06:17 PM   #11
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Re: How to change your 5 speed to an automatic

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god i want this done so bad but scared i'm going to **** up... i wanted a 5 spd at first but now i wish i never got one. i have a tko500 tranny in it now, but its suchs a hard shifting tranny.... i hate 5 spd, and will never owe another one...

Call Darrin at BC-automotive.com. He did an article in Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords on converting my Bullitt from a 5sp to a 4R70W about a year ago. Lopped off almost .7 from my ET with that conversion. Since then I've installed a 4V and with the shifter in "Drive" and with the EEC completely controlling the shifting and lockup, the car is now running 9s with just under 700RWHP. The original poster used a Lentech tranny with an Open converter. You can go with a lock-up converter with Darrin's conversion which makes the car MUCH more streetable and has a huge advantage at the track too on the big end. Mine's trapping 139mph currently. Open converters soak-up HP. I started a thread with my recent escapades with the 4V with some additional details on the car here...
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Old 12-08-2008, 06:48 AM   #12
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Re: How to change your 5 speed to an automatic

Figure I might as well ask.

Can I expect the same type of performance if I used a stock Mach 1 with an automatic trans as I would a stock 5 spd Mach 1 converted to an automatic?
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Old 12-07-2004, 05:58 PM   #13
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I will be happy to admit if I am wrong, but I believe since 1993...
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Old 12-07-2004, 06:42 PM   #14
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I believe SVT has never produced an Automatic Cobra. I can't be positive for years 94/95, but I am pretty sure. I am however, prositive that they have not produced one from 96 and up. No auto 4.6 4V Cobra
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Old 12-07-2004, 07:38 PM   #15
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Um, ok, I dont' see the answer, am I blind?

The question still stands for me. even with a 10 sec. car, if you are going with an auto, it wuldn't be stock anywho....
Lentech is not a stock automatic!
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Old 12-07-2004, 08:44 PM   #16
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So steve?

So steve how much did it cost you total to turn ur stick into an auto? How do you like it, what kinda tranny u got in it, let me know
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Old 12-07-2004, 08:55 PM   #17
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Funny this came up. I was wondering how hard it would be to do this to a 97 cobra convertible. Total $? What about labor?

Switch for overdrive to replace coin holder? The OD switch should be on the side of the shift handle.
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Old 12-07-2004, 09:01 PM   #18
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Lentech is not a stock automatic!
It bolts up like one. All the fastening points and sensors are in the factory stock location.
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Old 12-07-2004, 09:03 PM   #19
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More info on the Fox body rear.
I didn't think they were a direct swap for the 96+?
I guess your ABS is long gone?
I used a fox rear to tuck the tires in. 28x13.5x15 Hoosiers in the back. They do work on 96+ cars. I have the rings pressed on the axles with the sensors in place. ABS works fine.

Honestly though, if I had to do it all over, I would not bother with the ABS stuff. It's a foo foo feature that just costs extra money to make work. And the **** ring gets in the way if a stud gets spinned in the axle.
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-4R70W and CVAF1 Auto EEC
-96 Cobra Rear End
-Machine/Head work by Todd Fays of Phase 2 Crestwood, MO

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Old 12-07-2004, 09:15 PM   #20
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Add all of the parts above, along with:

-Lentech Strip Terminator 4R70W ($2595)
-9.5" 3200 non-locking converter ($595)
-35 spline input shaft and stage 2 drum ($399)
-Shipping ($175)

I sold the T-56 for about $2000, and some other goodies that were associated with the manual tranny. That helped with the cost.

Labor is a good weekend. Like any "larger than bolt on" job, the most difficult part is having all the right parts on hand, and having someone around to go on a part run.

Getting all the parts on hand is key, that shortens labor. That is why I created this write-up and posted this up. To save time and aggrevation for anyone who chooses to do this.
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Old 12-08-2004, 05:12 PM   #21
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no autos in cobras? really......Can you tell I dont' know THAT much about them...duh.


Now why did they offer the mach with an auto, but not a cobra? I could have sworn I have seen listings on dealers websites with cobras having an auto......ok that is it I am going crazy......


It is especially wierd because there is a girl that has an 04 cobra, brand new no plates, around here and I could have sworn it was an auto.....tall tale signs....smooth shift, no delay between gears, breaking until light turns green.....man am I lost....no offense to the women that come here, but this girl looks like she can barely drive an SUV....you'd have to see her.
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Old 12-08-2004, 06:05 PM   #22
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He he...check my sig.

I see now. My nephew did the same with his 03 snake no more 6spd or IRS although he used a MACH rear and Stock Tranny
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Old 12-08-2004, 06:15 PM   #23
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Now why did they offer the mach with an auto, but not a cobra? I could have sworn I have seen listings on dealers websites with cobras having an auto......ok that is it I am going crazy......
The Mach 1 is just an upgrade package for the GT. Most of the paperwork I have from Ford that came with the car has it listed as a Mustang GT with Mach 1 package.

There are a couple of women that I know who can shift smoother than what I do normally. So the girl could know how to handle a stick, or she/her parents have to much money and had it converted for her to ba able to drive.
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Old 12-08-2004, 07:44 PM   #24
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I'm pretty sure I have seen a 4V auto before. Last year would have been 98.
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Old 12-08-2004, 08:03 PM   #25
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I'm pretty sure I have seen a 4V auto before. Last year would have been 98.
Not in a Mustang.
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