NFL Football Thread

[65fastback2+2]

Originally Posted by 04azuremach

Marino could come out of retirement and still put both of them to shame. /discussion.

fixed

[65fastback2+2]

Originally Posted by 02mach1

one thing,

Big Ben has beat Favre also Ben has won 2 SB in 2 out 3 years, Favre hasn't won SB since 1997.

i thought we were arguing qb's....darn, i went and forgot that the only guy on the team is the qb

[kiler be]

Originally Posted by gbranton

Some names for you to Google:

Lawrence Taylor
Dikc Butkus
Jack Lambert
Mike Singletary
Ray Nitschke
Wilber Marshall
Sam Huff

Thats a great list and i'm sure none of them killed anyone.
Ray Lewis should be behind bars, not playing football.
Hard to get to the hall of fame from there.

[gbranton]

Originally Posted by kiler be

Ray Lewis should be behind bars, not playing football.

Agreed. It's a little sickening the way the media (how many times have I typed sentences that start with those same eight words?) has helped rebuild his image into that of a role model.

[shadowmaker]

Originally Posted by 65fastback2+2

couple things they for sure dont have in common:

10x pro bowl
3x MVP
Most career passing touchdowns: 472
Most career passing yards: 65,392
Most career pass completions: 5,805
Most career games with at least three touchdowns: 66

Yeah Favre is a stat maker not a superbowl taker.

Roethlisberger received much praise from coaches in the NFL including Dallas Cowboys former coach Bill Parcells who compared him to NFL legend Dan Marino. On January 5, 2005 Roethlisberger was unanimously selected as The NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year by the Associated Press, the second quarterback to be so honored.

Roethlisberger's rookie season, he set many rookie passing records, including best passer rating (98.1), and highest completion percentage (66.4%).

[kiler be]

Originally Posted by 65fastback2+2

couple things they for sure dont have in common:

10x pro bowl
3x MVP
Most career passing touchdowns: 472
Most career passing yards: 65,392
Most career pass completions: 5,805
Most career games with at least three touchdowns: 66

There is a slight age diff....games played. Playing in that Div. will give you those kind of stats. Playing the Lions, Bears, and Vikings twice a year is a QB'S dream.
Both QB'S are good but a GREAT QB calls his own plays.

[65fastback2+2]

Originally Posted by shadowmaker

Yeah Favre is a stat maker not a superbowl taker.

Roethlisberger received much praise from coaches in the NFL including Dallas Cowboys former coach Bill Parcells who compared him to NFL legend Dan Marino. On January 5, 2005 Roethlisberger was unanimously selected as The NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year by the Associated Press, the second quarterback to be so honored.

Roethlisberger's rookie season, he set many rookie passing records, including best passer rating (98.1), and highest completion percentage (66.4%).

darn, i forgot that ben's lowest superbowl qb rating ever (22.6) won that championship

i think my grandma could go throw a 22.6

[65fastback2+2]

Originally Posted by kiler be

There is a slight age diff....games played. Playing in that Div. will give you those kind of stats. Playing the Lions, Bears, and Vikings twice a year is a QB'S dream.
Both QB'S are good but a GREAT QB calls his own plays.

i understand the age and games played diff.

But 10 probowls to 1????

3 MVP's (back to back to back) to ZERO?

i give the steeler's defense a lot of credit....that wins them a lot of games...but to argue ben is in the top 20 qb's of all time is stupid

he is not even close to elite

[acreature]

Originally Posted by 65fastback2+2

...but to argue ben is in the top 20 qb's of all time is stupid

he is not even close to elite

As an expert in my expertise, I concur

[kiler be]

Originally Posted by 65fastback2+2

i understand the age and games played diff.

But 10 probowls to 1????

3 MVP's (back to back to back) to ZERO?

i give the steeler's defense a lot of credit....that wins them a lot of games...but to argue ben is in the top 20 qb's of all time is stupid

he is not even close to elite

Note.....I said both QB'S were good. Do I think Farve is better that Ben, Yes.
A winning QB is hard to find, they all do it diff. and # mean nothing.
Like that old cote out west says.....Just win Baby.

[65fastback2+2]

Originally Posted by kiler be

Note.....I said both QB'S were good. Do I think Farve is better that Ben, Yes.
A winning QB is hard to find, they all do it diff. and # mean nothing.
Like that old cote out west says.....Just win Baby.

numbers mean something when it takes 10 other guys on the field to score points on offense

[kiler be]

QB #..... you were talking about QB'S, Right.
Good god Screach, get back on the MEDS.

[02mach1]

Originally Posted by 65fastback2+2

i understand the age and games played diff.

But 10 probowls to 1????

3 MVP's (back to back to back) to ZERO?

i give the steeler's defense a lot of credit....that wins them a lot of games...but to argue ben is in the top 20 qb's of all time is stupid

he is not even close to elite

One thing Ben has wins, Farve, Tony don't wins in Dec . & INTs

[kiler be]

Its been over 2 days, the MEDS must have worked......
Your welcome, now don't forget, twice a day.............

[acreature]

Originally Posted by 65fastback2+2

numbers mean something when it takes 10 other guys on the field to score points on offense

It is a Team sport

[kiler be]

This is a great week for Redskins fans.....A BYE WEEK.
I'd still take the bye to win by 7. Hey wait, thats not funny.

[kiler be]

Originally Posted by Aneurism

It is a Team sport

Please let the Redskins know that...

[65fastback2+2]

eagles roll giants

cowboys roll seahawks

cowboys jump to #1 in the NFC East

[65fastback2+2]

Originally Posted by 02mach1

One thing Ben has wins, Farve, Tony don't wins in Dec . & INTs

heres some other "amazing" QB's that have SB wins:

Rypien
Trent Dilfer
Brad Johnson


since a QB is the only man on the team and a SB win means he wont the whole game himself, theres 3 more "awesome" QB's to add to the all-time greatest QB list

lolz

even sucky qb's win....ben is a prime example

[falcongtho3]

The REAL NFL team doesn't play until Monday night. There was an article today stating that the Saints are on track to become the highest scoring team, for a songle season, in NFL history if they continue at their current pace. Stunning, just stunning...

[02mach1]

Originally Posted by 65fastback2+2

heres some other "amazing" QB's that have SB wins:

Rypien
Trent Dilfer
Brad Johnson


since a QB is the only man on the team and a SB win means he wont the whole game himself, theres 3 more "awesome" QB's to add to the all-time greatest QB list

lolz

even sucky qb's win....ben is a prime example

Ben is still in NFL and two SB wins the other QBs has 1 and your Tony has 0 Playoffs and SBs that's facts

[65fastback2+2]

Originally Posted by falcongtho3

The REAL NFL team doesn't play until Monday night. There was an article today stating that the Saints are on track to become the highest scoring team, for a songle season, in NFL history if they continue at their current pace. Stunning, just stunning...

they better rack em up quick...Dec. 19th is approaching quickly

[acreature]

Originally Posted by falcongtho3

The REAL NFL team doesn't play until Monday night. There was an article today stating that the Saints are on track to become the highest scoring team, for a songle season, in NFL history if they continue at their current pace. Stunning, just stunning...

There have been several teams over the last few years that started off that strong and were stated to do the same thing. The season is only at the halfway point. Things change. Things change fast. Ask the Pats of a couple years ago, and ask the current Midgetts.

[falcongtho3]

After following the Saints all of these years, a winning start is not only an eye opener...but hope for a good season. But all of that is now moot. Aparently Reggie Bush-Kardashian shot off his mount and said something abotu getting to the Super Bowl. Nothing like jinxing a team to screw up a perfectly good season.

[acreature]

Just wanted to say the last 3 games for the NFC east:

Cowboys 3-0
Eagles 2-1
Giants and Skins 0-3

**** to be right there with the Skins