NFL Football Thread

[65fastback2+2]

cowboys win, steelers lose, pats lose....what a superb day.

looks like next week they'll all have identical records too bahahaha

[Thunderbolt]

Go back to the 1st grade. Pitt's record is 6-3. Buffalo is'nt any slouch either.

[un gm]

Not bragging about that ugly azz cowboy win.

[02mach1]

Steelers will beat bengals this week

[Thunderbolt]

Demarco Murray is gonna be a great running back. I saw him play the week before he got his 253 yards, and you could tell already that he was better than Felix Jones.

[RobbyB]

LOL Steelers suck.

And the Niners should have beat the Redskins 26-3, but the refs got a call wrong on an endzone dive for us that WAS a touch down. And the redskins got a TD in garbage time with most of the second string on defense. Meh. I'll take a W, but the game was way more lop sided than the score shows.

[shadowmaker]

Originally Posted by RobbyB

LOL Steelers suck.

And the Niners should have beat the Redskins 26-3, but the refs got a call wrong on an endzone dive for us that WAS a touch down. And the redskins got a TD in garbage time with most of the second string on defense. Meh. I'll take a W, but the game was way more lop sided than the score shows.

Here we go. Nobody has been a 49ers fan in 15 yrs. Now that they are winning, "I ve always been a 49ers fan". The band wagon is loading....

[RobbyB]

Originally Posted by shadowmaker

Here we go. Nobody has been a 49ers fan in 15 yrs. Now that they are winning, "I ve always been a 49ers fan". The band wagon is loading....

LOL, K. My old username is 04AzureMach. Go back to last year when they sucked. I was still here talking *****.

I rooted for them during their 2-14 season just as much as I am now on their season on pace for 14-2. You know what they say about assumptions...

[gbranton]

Originally Posted by shadowmaker

Here we go. Nobody has been a 49ers fan in 15 yrs. Now that they are winning, "I ve always been a 49ers fan". The band wagon is loading....

One thing you can say about me is that I'm here talking (or complaining) about my Bears whether they are 12-4 or 4-12.

[shadowmaker]

Originally Posted by RobbyB

LOL, K. My old username is 04AzureMach. Go back to last year when they sucked. I was still here talking *****.

I rooted for them during their 2-14 season just as much as I am now on their season on pace for 14-2. You know what they say about assumptions...

Its football season, smack talk and assumptions are part of it. A few 49er fans have popped up at work. And I know go and well they were pulling for someone else last yr.

Originally Posted by gbranton

One thing you can say about me is that I'm here talking (or complaining) about my Bears whether they are 12-4 or 4-12.

I m a Steeler fan, this is my 36th yr. When they won the last Superbowl, I had on my jacket and this guy tells me, "I ve always been a Steeler fan". Then goes on to talk about Hines Ward playing defense and called someone a linebacker that played on the offensive line. I tuned him out after that.

[Thunderbolt]

Originally Posted by RobbyB

just as much as I am now on their season on pace for 14-2.

You can have your #1 seed in the Playoffs at 14-2. Then promptly watch them get their azzes handed to them.

[RobbyB]

Originally Posted by Thunderbolt

You can have your #1 seed in the Playoffs at 14-2. Then promptly watch them get their azzes handed to them.

By whom? We almost beat the Saints and Falcons last year with a moron for a head coach. They were both better teams last year than they are this year. Can't say that about the Niners though. Also, we already beat the Lions IN DETROIT. The Eagles won't be there. The only other team we could possibly play in the first round is the Giants. We'll see how we handle this this weekend. Also could be the Bears, but all they have is a running game and all we do is stop the run better than anybody. They on the other hand don't stop the run nearly as good. The only team I'm worried about (as is every other team) is the Packers. And looks like we wouldn't play them until the conference game. That wouldn't be promptly losing. With a backup QB, we were competitive with them last year. Actually led at the half, but just like every other game last year, the team collapsed. Hasn't happened this year though.

[np_mach1]

Originally Posted by RobbyB

By whom? We almost beat the Saints and Falcons last year with a moron for a head coach. They were both better teams last year than they are this year. Can't say that about the Niners though. Also, we already beat the Lions IN DETROIT. The Eagles won't be there. The only other team we could possibly play in the first round is the Giants. We'll see how we handle this this weekend. Also could be the Bears, but all they have is a running game and all we do is stop the run better than anybody. They on the other hand don't stop the run nearly as good. The only team I'm worried about (as is every other team) is the Packers. And looks like we wouldn't play them until the conference game. That wouldn't be promptly losing. With a backup QB, we were competitive with them last year. Actually led at the half, but just like every other game last year, the team collapsed. Hasn't happened this year though.

Don't worry you will have your chance to come back down to earth. At some point your team will have to throw and then we will all get to see the real Alex Smith. Giants have the team to get up on the Niners and force them to play a style of ball they don't want to.

[RobbyB]

Originally Posted by np_mach1

Don't worry you will have your chance to come back down to earth. At some point your team will have to throw and then we will all get to see the real Alex Smith. Giants have the team to get up on the Niners and force them to play a style of ball they don't want to.

The Niners have had no problem scoring (more points so far than the Steelers). The Giants can't stop the run to save their lives.

That being said, the Niners were down by 20 and 10 behind the Eagles and Lions respectively and still came back and won. Smith threw 200 yards in the third quarter against the Eagles and led a game winning drive against the Lions. He has the 3rd best 4th quarter quarterback rating. He's been pretty clutch. What people don't seem to get is, just because they don't throw it a lot doesn't mean they can't. If you can run the ball at will (which is less risk than throwing as well as shortens the game), why risk interceptions and injuring receivers?

When it comes down to it, the Niners have a top notch receiving core. Better than the Steelers. Yes, I said it. Braylon Edwards, Mike Crabtree, Vernon Davis and Delanie walker are all big receivers/tight ends that are match up problems with the exception of Crabtree who is more of a finesse receiver. 3/4 are first round draft picks. The O-line is nothing but first and second rounders. Smith has a lot of help. He doesn't have to be Peyton Manning for the Niners to win. He has the fewest interceptions thrown per attempt and he's really starting to learn the offense (lots of audibles recently) and is only going to get better. He's already miles ahead of last year.

[Thunderbolt]

Originally Posted by RobbyB

By whom?

Sounds strangely familiar to what a Patsy fan would say. "My team's shiite don't stink".

[RobbyB]

Originally Posted by Thunderbolt

Sounds strangely familiar to what a Patsy fan would say. "My team's shiite don't stink".

I just don't see them losing their first play off game. If they lose to the Packers in the second game (NFC Championship), then that won't exactly be anything to be ashamed of.

[np_mach1]

Originally Posted by RobbyB

The Niners have had no problem scoring (more points so far than the Steelers). The Giants can't stop the run to save their lives.

That being said, the Niners were down by 20 and 10 behind the Eagles and Lions respectively and still came back and won. Smith threw 200 yards in the third quarter against the Eagles and led a game winning drive against the Lions. He has the 3rd best 4th quarter quarterback rating. He's been pretty clutch. What people don't seem to get is, just because they don't throw it a lot doesn't mean they can't. If you can run the ball at will (which is less risk than throwing as well as shortens the game), why risk interceptions and injuring receivers?

When it comes down to it, the Niners have a top notch receiving core. Better than the Steelers. Yes, I said it. Braylon Edwards, Mike Crabtree, Vernon Davis and Delanie walker are all big receivers/tight ends that are match up problems with the exception of Crabtree who is more of a finesse receiver. 3/4 are first round draft picks. The O-line is nothing but first and second rounders. Smith has a lot of help. He doesn't have to be Peyton Manning for the Niners to win. He has the fewest interceptions thrown per attempt and he's really starting to learn the offense (lots of audibles recently) and is only going to get better. He's already miles ahead of last year.

I can't even talk to you anymore about this. You are delusional. You really think the WR's for the Niners are better... never mind this is retarded. Like arguing with a 10 year old.

are you on drugs?

Haha hey man good luck though for real. It's good to see you supporting your team like you did back in the 90's. Break out your starter jacket baby!!

You sound like all the Skins fans here trying to support your belief with stats. People don't believe you becasue the team is suspect. They haven't done anything yet.

[np_mach1]

Originally Posted by RobbyB

I just don't see them losing their first play off game. If they lose to the Packers in the second game (NFC Championship), then that won't exactly be anything to be ashamed of.

IF they make it to the playoffs. Playoff births haven't been given out yet have they?

[RobbyB]

Originally Posted by np_mach1

I can't even talk to you anymore about this. You are delusional. You really think the WR's for the Niners are better... never mind this is retarded. Like arguing with a 10 year old.

are you on drugs?

Haha hey man good luck though for real. It's good to see you supporting your team like you did back in the 90's. Break out your starter jacket baby!!

You sound like all the Skins fans here trying to support your belief with stats. People don't believe you becasue the team is suspect. They haven't done anything yet.

I watch all of your games. My fiance is a Raven's fan. My two best friends are Steelers fans. Unlike you, I actually know something about your team. You clearly know nothing about mine. Mike Wallace is all you got. Ward is old and slow. Brown is having a break out season, but it won't be long until defenses adjust. Heath Miller doesn't even belong in the same conversation as Vernon Davis and Delanie Walker.

Crabtree makes Santanio Holmes twinkle toes catches. Kind of like how he DIDN'T actually get both feet down against the Cards in the SB. Speaking of which... kind of funny how much you struggled against them in the SB when we not only swept them that year, but beat them handily.

Originally Posted by np_mach1

IF they make it to the playoffs. Playoff births haven't been given out yet have they?

They can clinch their terrible division in two games. They're up by 5 games already. The #1 and 2# seed are many games away, but they could slip and fall into the #4 seed without much effort at this point. If the niners beat the Giants, the rest of the division loses (arizona vs philly, st louis vs cleveland, seattle vs baltimore) and then next week the Niners beat the Cards and the Rams beat the Seahawks, they clinch the division with 9 wins. That would put the rest of the division at 2-8. I know how weak of a division it is, but so far they have only played 1 division game. They have 5 more games against terrible teams. Even if they only win 4 of those 5 and none against the Ravens, Steelers and Giants, they still finish 11-5. A record that is statstically impossible for the rest of the division.

[shadowmaker]

Originally Posted by RobbyB

I watch all of your games. My fiance is a Raven's fan. My two best friends are Steelers fans. Unlike you, I actually know something about your team. You clearly know nothing about mine. Mike Wallace is all you got. Ward is old and slow. Brown is having a break out season, but it won't be long until defenses adjust. Heath Miller doesn't even belong in the same conversation as Vernon Davis and Delanie Walker.

Crabtree makes Santanio Holmes twinkle toes catches. Kind of like how he DIDN'T actually get both feet down against the Cards in the SB. Speaking of which... kind of funny how much you struggled against them in the SB when we not only swept them that year, but beat them handily.



They can clinch their terrible division in two games. They're up by 5 games already. The #1 and 2# seed are many games away, but they could slip and fall into the #4 seed without much effort at this point. If the niners beat the Giants, the rest of the division loses (arizona vs philly, st louis vs cleveland, seattle vs baltimore) and then next week the Niners beat the Cards and the Rams beat the Seahawks, they clinch the division with 9 wins. That would put the rest of the division at 2-8. I know how weak of a division it is, but so far they have only played 1 division game. They have 5 more games against terrible teams. Even if they only win 4 of those 5 and none against the Ravens, Steelers and Giants, they still finish 11-5. A record that is statstically impossible for the rest of the division.

All the Steelers have is Wallace? Are you drunk? Wallace, Sanders, Brown, Crotchery, Ward, Miller, and an back field that can catch and run as well. SF doesnt have ONE player in the top 50. Steelers have 3, Heath being one of them. SF passing game is ranked #31, Steelers are #6, 2nd in the AFC. SF defense is good at stopping the run, #1 to be exact but #22 against the pass. Times have changed, running the ball doesnt win football games anymore. You have to be able to pass....ALOT.

Ward maybe old but hes no way slow and he can still get the job done. The only WR in the league that a top ranked LB calls out.

We have a make shift OL and a put together defense. All of the starting defense has yet to be on the field at the same time.


Take our starting QB away last yr for 4 games and where did we end up? And lose with a QB that had a broken foot and broke nose. A star LB that had 2 back surgeries in the offseason.....

I know it all falls on deaf ears, you learn over the years as a Steeler fan, everyone loves to see you lose. Dont make excuses and just go with the flow. Heck even with 2 Superbowls, they are just now putting Ben in the same category as Brady and the other golden QBs of the NFL.

All I hear is the packers packers packers....WHO have the played? How in the world did they get that schedule? Only tough game they have are the Lions, Bears, and maybe the chargers.

[Thunderbolt]

Originally Posted by RobbyB

Crabtree makes Santanio Holmes twinkle toes catches. Kind of like how he DIDN'T actually get both feet down against the Cards in the SB. Speaking of which... kind of funny how much you struggled against them in the SB when we not only swept them that year, but beat them handily.

Have you and Fastback 2-2 been talking? You both sound like twin brothers. Oh, and 3 turnovers tend to make you struggle in any game. As I remember, it took till the last 1 minute of the game to decide the winner.

[RobbyB]

Originally Posted by shadowmaker

All the Steelers have is Wallace? Are you drunk? Wallace, Sanders, Brown, Crotchery, Ward, Miller, and an back field that can catch and run as well. SF doesnt have ONE player in the top 50. Steelers have 3, Heath being one of them. SF passing game is ranked #31, Steelers are #6, 2nd in the AFC. SF defense is good at stopping the run, #1 to be exact but #22 against the pass. Times have changed, running the ball doesnt win football games anymore. You have to be able to pass....ALOT.

So because they have more catches they are better receivers? Heath Miller is a bum compared to Vernon Davis and Delanie Walker. No one outside of Pittsburg would argue otherwise. The Niners are 32nd in pass attempts. You're going to base talent of the WR off of total yards when they don't get half the opportunities? All I can say is SCOREBOARD because the Niners have scored more than you have. The niners may run the ball a lot, but if you put too many in the box they DO have the wide outs to make you pay for it.

Originally Posted by shadowmaker

Ward maybe old but hes no way slow and he can still get the job done. The only WR in the league that a top ranked LB calls out.

Right, because LINE BACKERS are great at evaluating WR talent. He called him out so there'd be no excuses, not because he's some kind of amazing receiver like Calvin Johnson.

Originally Posted by shadowmaker

We have a make shift OL and a put together defense. All of the starting defense has yet to be on the field at the same time.

Niners have dealt with injuries on both sides of the ball, but they're still rolling. Every team has injuries.

Originally Posted by shadowmaker

Take our starting QB away last yr for 4 games and where did we end up? And lose with a QB that had a broken foot and broke nose. A star LB that had 2 back surgeries in the offseason.....

I know it all falls on deaf ears, you learn over the years as a Steeler fan, everyone loves to see you lose. Dont make excuses and just go with the flow. Heck even with 2 Superbowls, they are just now putting Ben in the same category as Brady and the other golden QBs of the NFL.

So let me get this straight. Your team wins 3/4 games without Ben and you want to call him elite because he has two rings? Trent Dilfer has a ring. Big Ben is better than Dilfer, but do you think Big Ben would be as successful with the Colt's defense? Ha. Look how bad that team is without Manning. That's proof he's an elite QB. When your team wins 75% of it's games even without your starting QB, that doesn't help your argument.

Originally Posted by shadowmaker

All I hear is the packers packers packers....WHO have the played? How in the world did they get that schedule? Only tough game they have are the Lions, Bears, and maybe the chargers.

I agree with you there. The Saints and Bears are the only teams with a winning record they've played this year. However, no one can even come close to the level of play Rogers is putting up this year. 24 TD's to 3 INT's. That's an 8:1 ratio. Most consider 2:1 good, so he's doing extremely well. The Packers D is really looking suspect though.

[np_mach1]

Originally Posted by RobbyB

I watch all of your games. My fiance is a Raven's fan. My two best friends are Steelers fans. Unlike you, I actually know something about your team. You clearly know nothing about mine. Mike Wallace is all you got. Ward is old and slow. Brown is having a break out season, but it won't be long until defenses adjust. Heath Miller doesn't even belong in the same conversation as Vernon Davis and Delanie Walker.

Crabtree makes Santanio Holmes twinkle toes catches. Kind of like how he DIDN'T actually get both feet down against the Cards in the SB. Speaking of which... kind of funny how much you struggled against them in the SB when we not only swept them that year, but beat them handily.

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You are delusional. All I know is football. I am one of the most real and honest people break down of talent and teams you will ever meet. You argue out of both sides of your face. You argue for stats then against them. Look, honestly and truth... the Niners are good so far this year. They just have not done enough to say WOW they are a bad *** team. I like the Niners, I do follow all teams closely. Fantasy football, me coaching football part time, and just a love of the game keeps me interested. I can tell you anything you want to know about your team. (just about ) I just don't look at them through rose colored glasses like you do.

When was the last time Braylon edwards or Michael crabtree were relevant?? What? When? Braylon hasn't been the same guy since Cleveland and still dropped the big passes, and Crabtree can't stay healthy, he isn't a burner, and his hands are so-so. You say they could break out if they had to... Jeez talk about hypotheticals. Davis is a beast. top 5 TE in the league easily. He is a physical freak. No way Heath Miller is a better field stretcher, but he has great hands and can block his *** off, which is what Steelers tight ends do. They probably won't have the Tony G, Fred Davis type of TE... just not in their DNA I guess.

Hines ward is a comparable talent to crabtree. Hines gets it done though AND can actually block down field. Hines is the #1 WR for yardage in Steeler history... He is a bad dude. You may watch the games but you dont see the games LOL.

How can people figure out antonio Brown and leave Wallace alone?? pick your poison BUT either way you die. Don't forget about sanders and cotchery. I mean this is full WR corp. Not just 2 guys and some tight ends. We have legit #1 in Wallace, but those other guys are equally as good as the other in Brown and Sanders. our 3rd wr is our #1 wr of all time. **** talk about a shitty squad huh? laughable///

[np_mach1]

Originally Posted by RobbyB

I agree with you there. The Saints and Bears are the only teams with a winning record they've played this year. However, no one can even come close to the level of play Rogers is putting up this year. 24 TD's to 3 INT's. That's an 8:1 ratio. Most consider 2:1 good, so he's doing extremely well. The Packers D is really looking suspect though.

yeah Rodgers is sick. He has been ever since he got his start. Packers D just has to keep teams to around 21 points and let Aaron do the rest. It's silly the way he pitches it all over the yard HAHA

[np_mach1]

Robby, BTW you really are trying to say Santonio didn't get both feet down?? please stop... Just please stop with the crazy