a note on coated and braided PTFE fuel line - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

DSG2003Mach1 · 08-26-2014, 12:28 PM

if you get any of the braided PTFE fuel hose that now has the plastic/rubber type coating you better have a bench vise, aluminum vice jaws for hose assembly, appropriate cutters and a mini pipe cutter ( a razor or exacto knife on hand is also highly recommended)

the cloth covered stuff is still bad enough but this ****...without the vice, forget it.

not a gt · 08-26-2014, 05:08 PM

Sounds like insider info

, what are you working on now?

DSG2003Mach1 · 08-26-2014, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by not a gt

Sounds like insider info

, what are you working on now?

my return style kit ran the fuel lines in a dead head setup, Im undoing that so I need new lines. I already had the vice jaws and cutter from previous adventures but had to add the pipe cutter etc...

Got everything figured out last night, new crossover hose made, feed line is half way assembled then I just need to make a return line to the regulator (which is on the fender is all) then leak check it all

Vndcatr · 08-27-2014, 01:16 AM

Also, i boil a cup of water. Stick the hose end in the water for a couple minutes. Then put your fittings in the freezer for about 15 minutes. then throw on a little lube of your choice on the fitting and slide that fitting right on!.

I think ive installed them all now, and the Fragola 4000 series black hose is the worst lol..

DSG2003Mach1 · 08-27-2014, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Vndcatr

Also, i boil a cup of water. Stick the hose end in the water for a couple minutes. Then put your fittings in the freezer for about 15 minutes. then throw on a little lube of your choice on the fitting and slide that fitting right on!.

I think ive installed them all now, and the Fragola 4000 series black hose is the worst lol..

thats more for push-lock style, thats not really gonna help with this stuff.

I did learn with the mini pipe cutter (having never used one before) to start with really light tension and make a couple turns so you get a nice straight indent started then tighten a little more, make a few more turns and repeat until you see the silver brading.

machgsxr · 08-27-2014, 10:45 AM

Ive used just a cutting wheel on a grinder, some black electrical tap and two crescent wrenches for the hose i use.

What hose are you using?

I refuse to install or work with that fragola hose and fittings. Too much of a pain.

TKat13 · 08-27-2014, 11:06 AM

I used black electrical tape on the cut line and a hack saw with a fine blade.

Yes, the vice with adapters is the only way to go.

DSG2003Mach1 · 08-27-2014, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by machgsxr

Ive used just a cutting wheel on a grinder, some black electrical tap and two crescent wrenches for the hose i use.

What hose are you using?

I refuse to install or work with that fragola hose and fittings. Too much of a pain.

its the Fragola braided PTFE stuff, Im not risking having gas vapor smell issues. The new black colored stuff doesnt use a fabric cover its a clear coated black plastic coating of some kind.

Now that Ive done it a few times its really not bad, Ive got it down where it doesnt take long at all. The worst part is just trying to get the hose lengths correct. You really need to have the correct tools on hand though or this **** would be impossible to work with

Vndcatr · 08-27-2014, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DSG2003Mach1

its the Fragola braided PTFE stuff, Im not risking having gas vapor smell issues. The new black colored stuff doesnt use a fabric cover its a clear coated black plastic coating of some kind.

Now that Ive done it a few times its really not bad, Ive got it down where it doesnt take long at all. The worst part is just trying to get the hose lengths correct. You really need to have the correct tools on hand though or this **** would be impossible to work with

My bad , thought you were referring to Push to lock fittings which i still like but the other style (Forget the term for them) that use the little collar are the way to go.. Yea i Tape off where it needs to be cut using any tape and use a chop saw so its a straight cut lol.

Are you going to a return style or just adding in Fuel rails ?

DSG2003Mach1 · 08-27-2014, 10:13 PM

I'm already return style, I'm getting rid of the dead head setup. I don't care what they say, I've seen the logs and it's not ideal

In that note two more leaky hose ends leaking at the little pin, to say I'm not a happy camper would be quite the understatement

08-26-2014, 12:28 PM	#1
DSG2003Mach1 700 HP Mach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 8,384	a note on coated and braided PTFE fuel line if you get any of the braided PTFE fuel hose that now has the plastic/rubber type coating you better have a bench vise, aluminum vice jaws for hose assembly, appropriate cutters and a mini pipe cutter ( a razor or exacto knife on hand is also highly recommended) the cloth covered stuff is still bad enough but this ****...without the vice, forget it. __________________ 03 dsg mach1 - MPR built 9.5:1 motor, D1, cams, ported intake, full exhaust, magnum t56, built rear, E85 etc... '12 F150 FX2 Supercrew with Ecoboost daily beater

08-26-2014, 05:08 PM	#2
not a gt Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waaayy out in the country,leave your GPS at home! Posts: 4,825	Re: a note on coated and braided PTFE fuel line Sounds like insider info, what are you working on now? __________________ 2003 DSG Mach 1-03 Cobra Term/T56 swap: 2.3L Whipple,3.37 Upper,4 lb.lower, ID 1000 injectors,LCD cooling mod,Billetflow idlers,200A Alt,oil cooler delete with MMR adapter plate,MM oil filter kit,FrozenBoost Heat Exchanger Flowtech L.T., Maganaflow O/R X with Magnapacks, FRRP D.S.,T-56 with 26 spline input shaft and anti venom mod with reverse lockout box, FR steel flywheel,Spec Stage 3+,Moser 31 spline axles,FR 3.73 gear Tuned by B.Kurgan 601Hp/558/Tq

08-27-2014, 01:16 AM	#4
Vndcatr SVT Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Northern California Posts: 812	Re: a note on coated and braided PTFE fuel line Also, i boil a cup of water. Stick the hose end in the water for a couple minutes. Then put your fittings in the freezer for about 15 minutes. then throw on a little lube of your choice on the fitting and slide that fitting right on!. I think ive installed them all now, and the Fragola 4000 series black hose is the worst lol.. __________________ 2001 Zinc yellow SVT Cobra Forged 11.5CR 284ci Comp 106500 cams - Degreed 01 cobra Heads - tastefully modded Roys ported/polished Intake Kooks longtubes, Magnaflow catback D&D T3650, Mgw shifted FTB Goodies, 4.30s, FRPP diff cover, 31 splined IRS 04 cobra interior , black termy seats, Speedhut gauges Tubular K, MM coilovers/ Koni SA yellows Starkweather tuned, 24* timing on 91 octane 11.7 @ 117mph 1.62 60ft. Raceweight 3200lbs Next up:Sullivan intake and hat, self tuning..

08-27-2014, 10:45 AM	#6
machgsxr Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Antonio Posts: 6,414	Re: a note on coated and braided PTFE fuel line Ive used just a cutting wheel on a grinder, some black electrical tap and two crescent wrenches for the hose i use. What hose are you using? I refuse to install or work with that fragola hose and fittings. Too much of a pain.

08-27-2014, 11:06 AM	#7
TKat13 Mach-T Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: DFW Posts: 2,865	Re: a note on coated and braided PTFE fuel line I used black electrical tape on the cut line and a hack saw with a fine blade. Yes, the vice with adapters is the only way to go. __________________ Darrell Black '04 Mach 1 Track Times (bone-stock w/drs):60 ft - 1.90 \| 1/8 - 8.67 (100 shot,E85,4:10s,Street tire):60 ft - 1.67 \| 1/8 - 7.88 New build - 750rwhp; not track tested (yet) Mods: Build Log Paint&Body Tuned by Manny @ HPP

08-27-2014, 10:13 PM	#10
DSG2003Mach1 700 HP Mach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 8,384	Re: a note on coated and braided PTFE fuel line I'm already return style, I'm getting rid of the dead head setup. I don't care what they say, I've seen the logs and it's not ideal In that note two more leaky hose ends leaking at the little pin, to say I'm not a happy camper would be quite the understatement __________________ 03 dsg mach1 - MPR built 9.5:1 motor, D1, cams, ported intake, full exhaust, magnum t56, built rear, E85 etc... '12 F150 FX2 Supercrew with Ecoboost daily beater

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