Bleeding - whats wrong?

[Mudd92]

Ok, so today I decided to paint my calipers so i could finally finish up with the wheels. So, I pulled it all apart, I pulled the calipers off the front completely, the backs stayed on but i pulled them apart (didnt disconnect line)

Pass onto the bleeding, I started off like i have the other tons of cars I have bled before, PR, DR, PF, DF. I am pretty positive the MC never got completly empty, I have solid fluid coming out at this time, but I have no pedal at all, car running or off. I did a test drive and the car does stop but its that "rolling stop" and the pedal stays on the floor.

Can someone help me out here? I dont know if im missing something or what. I thought about bleeding the MC, but the **** bleed screw wont budge so I stopped before I caused myself more headache.

Thanks for any advice.

[Mudd92]

Meant to add, unless air is just stuck somewhere for some reason, I used a hand pump also. Im going to use the Brake flush machine at work tomorrow so i can keep a continuous flow of pressure and fluid coming and go from there.

[CompOrange]

Master, PR, DR, PF, DF, Master.

You must have air somewhere, don't let that thing go dry as it's easy with the small reservoir on these cars. Just do it the old tried and true way with another person and a tube submerged in brake fluid.

[Mudd92]

What do you mean a tube submerged in fluid?

[CompOrange]

Originally Posted by Mudd92

What do you mean a tube submerged in fluid?

stick a clear piece of tubing over the bleed screw and submerge the other end in the brake fluid...keeps air from re-entering the brake line.

[Mudd92]

gotcha, should I start with the one closet to firewall then front.

[Mudd92]

Also does the car need to be running our off? didn't know if it made a difference with hydro boost

[xXAzureMach1Xx]

Need to bleed the MC. I had the same problem. Bleeding the MC worked for me. No matter how many times you bleed the cal you cant get the air out. Trust me i have tried LOL

Did my car with it off

[PeteEpple]

dont forget about the ABS module. if that has air in it it doesnt matter how much you bleed it. it will eventually work itself out but it takes a while. It happened with Shake N Bake

[Mudd92]

Ok cool thanks everyone i'll try again tonight. So start with bleeding the MC then go to the brakes in normal rotation, bleed MC again. And hopefully I have a pedal again, drive it, and if its still spongy possible try bleeding again after couple days of driving?

[gamatt]

Originally Posted by CompOrange

stick a clear piece of tubing over the bleed screw and submerge the other end in the brake fluid...keeps air from re-entering the brake line.

I've never understood this piece of advice, if you open the bleeder with someone applying the brakes and close it when there foot hits the floor, then the flow is always outbound. Not to mention when you stick the tube into the fluid, the tube is still full of air. Unless of course you are using some kind of one-man bleeder kit with a bottle that you hang up under the fender.

[Mudd92]

Wow, shitty night. Can anyone give me a piece of advice on getting a stuck bleeder out, and at this point, completely rounded bleeder.

Its the rear on on the MC. Ive tried the EZ out i think they are called (for removing rounded bolts lol), couple other things, Ive got PB blast soaking it now.

The front one came loose without much of a fuss but the rear would not budge, it is now rounded off from me trying to use a vice grip in last attempts. Really dont wanna pull the MC off to try and drill it or something or replace.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

[NastyNate]

I broke the line on my master cyc for my jeep and that was a pain!! i tried vice grips but that did work. Eventually i used a small pip wrench and it finally broke loose. If that does work tools for the strip bolt. the one with the teeth that grap as turn have worked well for me as long as you have the right size. The also make those vice grips that are fir round off bolt. It has a hump on the bottom jaw.

[Mudd92]

Yea i tried a big pair and small pair of vice grips as tight as i could get them as still the **** thing just slips and rounds it worse. I sprayed pb on it before i clenaed up and put up my tools so i will try again tomorrow.

if not i guess i will just have to replace the master...