Trivia for today

[Bill Hamilton]

Originally posted by falcongtho3
The production for K code Mustangs is 64.5/65-7,273 for 66-5,469 and for '67-472 for a grand total of 13,214.

For today, the only way you could get a 428 CJ in a Mustang (other than in a Shelby) was to get with the GT package. The only exception (and there are always exceptioons) was the first run of cars. How many non-GT '68 1/8 CJ Mustangs were built and what was the purpose of these special cars?

Just a wild guess as I head out the door for today but---

around 50 that were special built for drag racing....the fewer options/lighter the better?

[falcongtho3]

Pretty wild guess...and a correct guess! :THUMBSUP:

[Bill Hamilton]

Originally posted by falcongtho3
Pretty wild guess...and a correct guess! :THUMBSUP:

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How about how many of these were made? I owned it from 1973 to 1977 and sold it for $1650, actually made a few dollars on the deal.

It had a 428 SCJ, Factory Drag Pack w/4.30 gears and C-6. It was scary fast on those old Polyglass F70's back then . One guy told me a few years ago he thought only two were made with that particular combination.

[ponygt65]

Originally posted by falcongtho3
The production for K code Mustangs is 64.5/65-7,273 for 66-5,469 and for '67-472 for a grand total of 13,214.

For today, the only way you could get a 428 CJ in a Mustang (other than in a Shelby) was to get with the GT package. The only exception (and there are always exceptioons) was the first run of cars. How many non-GT '68 1/8 CJ Mustangs were built and what was the purpose of these special cars?

correct...13214. And less than 10% are currently in the registry.


T or F.......The 9" "posi" with 3.50:1 gears was the standard rear end on the K-codes.

[falcongtho3]

True. For '65 there was an optional pair of gears as well, 3.89 and 4.11. The '66 and '67 cars had only one optional rear end gear option, the 3.89s. Similarly equipped Shelbys had Detroit Locker rear ends in '65 with the 3.89 gears, but this became an option in '66.

[falcongtho3]

For today, what was the only year that there were two different production side stripe treatments available for the GT package on the Mustang? (This does not include dealer or regional specials, only regular production options.)

[ponygt65]

Originally posted by falcongtho3
True. For '65 there was an optional pair of gears as well, 3.89 and 4.11. The '66 and '67 cars had only one optional rear end gear option, the 3.89s. Similarly equipped Shelbys had Detroit Locker rear ends in '65 with the 3.89 gears, but this became an option in '66.

The answer is false. The standard rear for a K was a 9" open rearend with 3.50's. There were options for other ratios with or without posi. But a Posi differential was not standard it was an option.

I am not too much up to par on the shelby's, but I believe those too were equipped with open differentials.

[ponygt65]

Originally posted by falcongtho3
For today, what was the only year that there were two different production side stripe treatments available for the GT package on the Mustang? (This does not include dealer or regional specials, only regular production options.)

I know I am probably wrong, but my guess would be 67. The option would be with or without stripes.

[falcongtho3]

The correct answer is '68. You could get either the familiar C-stripe or the '67 style rocker stripe which is much rarer, but I have seen them on original cars.
I do know that the '66 and '67 Shelbys had optional lockers but a posi unit as standard, where the '65 could only be had with a Dertoit Locker.
The source for my informaiton on the non-Shelby cars was inaccurate, and that the standard rear gears were an open unit. I stand corrected.

[ponygt65]

Falcon please do not take offense. I was not trying to correct you, only teach those that do not know. Like the stripe question. I thought you could only get a C-stripe in 68, I stand learned.


New trivia....what is the difference in the first (original - 1963) dual point distributors on the K's and the second version - 1964+ (aside from part numbers, the actual distributor housing)?


Bonus (kind of hard). what rare exhaust option was available on the K's up until April of 1965?

[falcongtho3]

Hey! No offense taken. This is a learning experience for everyone, including me! I'd like for everyone to participate on both sides of the thread. If I get it wrong, and I did, I will be the first to admit it. Otherwise I'd leave the thread for good, I wouldn't be doing anyone any good here.

On the dist. question, the first Hi-Po distributors had an 'oil wick' after that it was pretty much the same design without the 'wick'.

On the early cars there was a much more restrictive system incorporating a transverse muffler as well as two smaller resonator mufflers. This goofball set up was later discontinued, but would reappaer on '67-'69 Mustangs...unfortunately.

[ponygt65]

Not sure about the oil wick, so hey I learned something on my own trivia. I was refering to the housing being the same as a single point (it had the vacuum advance head on the dist) but internally it was dual point.


The exhaust I believe we are on the same lines, but the exhaust did not have mufflers, they had "glass-packs" instead. It was actually called the mufflerless option (at least everything I have seen refers to it that way).


easy one today......list in order from most to least, the sales in body styles for the K.


bonus why did the no. 1 body have the highest sales (complete speculation, but agreed upon most mustang enthusiasts).

[falcongtho3]

I have no hard numbers to go by, but aplying the percentages I'd have to go 1)Coupe, 2) Fastback,3)Convertible based on the overall production numbers over the time of the engines run.

As far as the reason for the coupe being the best seller, I'd say it was price. Oddly enough, from a performance point of view, it was also lighter than the other body styles and havign owned all three body styles it actually has a better handling balance. Many of the competition Mustangs in the mid-60's were in fact coupes for just that reason.

For today; what mid-'60's high performance Ford carried a K-code in its VIN, but was not delivered to the dealer or customer with a Hi-Po 289 under the hood?

[Verk]

Originally posted by falcongtho3
Right on the money, AZ!

For Tuesday: If you wanted a performance Mustang in '69 or '70 and decided to have A/C as well, what two performance option could you not have?

In 1969 you could not get A/C with the 200 CID six or the 428 V8 with the 4-speed manual. Nor could you get A/C on either the Boss 302 or 429 for either year.

[falcongtho3]

Performance..not 200 6 cyl., sorry. Had a 250 with A/C, what a slug it was!

You couldn't get a Super Cobra Jet w/air cond. (Err....how far back did you go to get this question? I know it had to be a while!)
Thanks!

And you are correct about the Boss cars not being available with A/C, as well as 4 speed CJ. This only applies to '69, as there were '70 4 speed CJ cars with A/C, as well as 68 1/2's built in tat combination.

[AZDave]

Originally posted by falcongtho3


For today; what mid-'60's high performance Ford carried a K-code in its VIN, but was not delivered to the dealer or customer with a Hi-Po 289 under the hood? [/B]

Mercury Comet

[falcongtho3]

Nope, you're in the neighborhood...a distant neighborhood, but in the same ZIP code...:THUMBSUP:

[ponygt65]

Originally posted by falcongtho3
I have no hard numbers to go by, but aplying the percentages I'd have to go 1)Coupe, 2) Fastback,3)Convertible based on the overall production numbers over the time of the engines run.

As far as the reason for the coupe being the best seller, I'd say it was price. Oddly enough, from a performance point of view, it was also lighter than the other body styles and havign owned all three body styles it actually has a better handling balance. Many of the competition Mustangs in the mid-60's were in fact coupes for just that reason.

For today; what mid-'60's high performance Ford carried a K-code in its VIN, but was not delivered to the dealer or customer with a Hi-Po 289 under the hood?

Very close.....Fastback, coupe, convertible.

Bonus: Shelby's sold best on mondays because of the winnings on Sunday races. But for those that came up a little shy on the funds, got a K code fastback - the closest to a shelby performance and visually you can get. Like I said never confirmed, but it makes sense to me.



Your trivia: It was a Mercury I can't remember which one. But I do remember the K wasn't even the engine code. It was the Plant production code if I remember correctly. I am interested to find out though.

[falcongtho3]

I'll let this one go a little longer. It wasn't a Mercury, it was a Ford product.

[02mach1]

Originally posted by falcongtho3
I'll let this one go a little longer. It wasn't a Mercury, it was a Ford product.

Ford Torino Cobra.

[falcongtho3]

Nope, good try though. It was the Ford Fairlane Thunderbolt. Although it carried a 'K' engine code in the VIN, it was delivered with a 427 8V powerplant.

[ponygt65]

Originally posted by falcongtho3
Nope, good try though. It was the Ford Fairlane Thunderbolt. Although it carried a 'K' engine code in the VIN, it was delivered with a 427 8V powerplant.

wow. never would have guessed. There was a 63 ( i believe) mercury that had K but what the plant not engine code. I will have to pull the article. It was a Mustang monthly or M&FF mag. There was a person wondering if the K was a hipo. but it was not.

[AZDave]

I didn't realize the T-Bolts started out as K cars either. It's fun to learn about this stuff. As for my Comet answer, in '64 Mercury used K for non-hipo 289 and D for 289HP, the opposite of Mustang codes.

[falcongtho3]

Wow, that I did not know. I appreciate any chance to learn something here, and today I have. I appreciate a cool Mercury as much as a hot Ford.
Realize that what my answer did mean was that all Thunderbolts were K code (Hi-Po 289) cars, that were later changed over to 427 8V engines before delivery and not that all K code cars were 427's, they were not.

[ponygt65]

Originally posted by AZDave
I didn't realize the T-Bolts started out as K cars either. It's fun to learn about this stuff. As for my Comet answer, in '64 Mercury used K for non-hipo 289 and D for 289HP, the opposite of Mustang codes.

Yeah the D was for 225 HP 289CID in 64, which was later changed to A-code. Weird how much changing they did. You would think the engine codes would have been the same across the board.


Easy trivia today....what is the difference between the 65 and 66 fuel pump on the hipo 289's?


Bonus - what side was the fuel line from the pump on, at the carb?? list for each year as they were "changed"