toasted the motor - Page 3 - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

03Shakered · 04-25-2014, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by na svt

nope

Ok. So just the harmonic balancer bolt/pully along with the 15 bolts? Not the 4 on the bottem end?

na svt · 04-25-2014, 10:45 AM

any bolt that secures the front cover to the engine block or pan must be removed.

03Shakered · 04-25-2014, 08:07 PM

Got the timing cover off. Now I don't have the tool to hold the cam in place so I can't The sprocket bolt off

2camsam · 04-26-2014, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 03Shakered

Got the timing cover off. Now I don't have the tool to hold the cam in place so I can't The sprocket bolt off

You could buy or rent a electric impact ?

Ben99GT · 04-26-2014, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 03Shakered

Got the timing cover off. Now I don't have the tool to hold the cam in place so I can't The sprocket bolt off

3/8" extension in the rear of the cam will work in a pinch

03Shakered · 05-04-2014, 10:30 AM

So got some more time yesterday. I ended up pulling the cam off and took it to a shop to have them zip it off real quick. The new tensioner is installed and the new chain. Did a lot of reading, and lined up the bottem to 6 o'clock and the exhaust to 11 and 1. All key ways were facing the bottem. Everything seems good when I rotated the motor.

03Shakered · 05-04-2014, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 2camsam

You could buy or rent a electric impact ?

Electric impact didn't work....lol I will be investing in air tools now

03Shakered · 05-04-2014, 03:03 PM

So all cylinders read between 200-215. #5( front driver side?) is zero

glittle75 · 05-04-2014, 08:27 PM

Bent valves, notched piston on #5, you need to pull the motor.

Probly gonna have broken guides, and a trashed chamber. New head and piston, or a rebuild is in order.

03Shakered · 05-06-2014, 02:34 PM

So to save myself money that I don't have, I will be pulling the head with the engine in the car. If anyone has done this with advise or tips please feel free.

Mach828 · 05-06-2014, 03:07 PM

I think the time you will save by being able to work on the car with the motor out will be well worth the trouble of trying to pull the head and time everything with it still in the car. I don't even think its possible to pull the head off without pulling the motor.

Dropping the K member really isn't that bad. If I was pulling my motor I would take the trans out, then drop it from the bottom with the K member.

Stopsign32v · 05-06-2014, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mach828

I don't even think its possible to pull the head off without pulling the motor.

It is

Not worth it, but is possible.

03Shakered · 05-07-2014, 08:37 AM

Yeah from what I have read,and talked to a bunch of people it will suck. So I've just decited to sell my soul on a personal loan and have it towed to a shop..... I don't have the time or tools to pull the motor. Being on call 24 hours really sucks and I really need this car up and running.... fml...

Stopsign32v · 05-07-2014, 01:18 PM

I feel your pain man. Just make sure the shop has a good reputation and make sure they can explain where every dime is going that they charge you. Shops ALOT of the times make up some fantasy charges and you end up paying them.

Edit: Do your research on the shop. Post on here and SVTP on shops around you. Also shops that are not local to you tend to jerk you around and your car will be the last one to be worked on over other cars that are local to them. I've seen it and had it happen to me. Try to stay local that way if something happens you can drive and check it out. Also I would suggest just popping in to see how things are going. It shouldn't be this way, but it is...most shops are shady.

03Shakered · 05-12-2014, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v

I feel your pain man. Just make sure the shop has a good reputation and make sure they can explain where every dime is going that they charge you. Shops ALOT of the times make up some fantasy charges and you end up paying them.

Edit: Do your research on the shop. Post on here and SVTP on shops around you. Also shops that are not local to you tend to jerk you around and your car will be the last one to be worked on over other cars that are local to them. I've seen it and had it happen to me. Try to stay local that way if something happens you can drive and check it out. Also I would suggest just popping in to see how things are going. It shouldn't be this way, but it is...most shops are shady.

Yeah. I did a lot of research. And one shop was least expensive and had nothing but great reviews. The guy has done lots of hot rods. I took it there. He said it's gonna be a while before it's done.. over a week. Some shops had a 4 day turn around but wanted $1000 plus extra

I'll be stopping in tomorrow or the next day

not a gt · 05-12-2014, 04:58 PM

The guy has done lots of hot rods. I took it there.
Name of "the guy" and shop?

03Shakered · 05-24-2014, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by not a gt

The guy has done lots of hot rods. I took it there.
Name of "the guy" and shop?

Jones Automotive. Brad.

Update. Head was slightly cracked being repaired. Replacing all intake vavles.

03Shakered · 06-10-2014, 11:16 PM

Passenger side 2 intake valves bent. Driver side all intake and exhaust were bent. Most we're not bent bad but replaced them anyways

04-25-2014, 10:45 AM	#52
na svt Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: beavercreek, oh Posts: 4,695	Re: toasted the motor any bolt that secures the front cover to the engine block or pan must be removed.

04-25-2014, 08:07 PM	#53
03Shakered shake N bake Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Ft. Lewis, WA Posts: 110	Re: toasted the motor Got the timing cover off. Now I don't have the tool to hold the cam in place so I can't The sprocket bolt off __________________ Mods: K&N CAI, Accffab TB, bassanni x pipe w/ slp LM2, SCT tuned. 294HP 324TQ

05-04-2014, 10:30 AM	#56
03Shakered shake N bake Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Ft. Lewis, WA Posts: 110	Re: toasted the motor So got some more time yesterday. I ended up pulling the cam off and took it to a shop to have them zip it off real quick. The new tensioner is installed and the new chain. Did a lot of reading, and lined up the bottem to 6 o'clock and the exhaust to 11 and 1. All key ways were facing the bottem. Everything seems good when I rotated the motor. __________________ Mods: K&N CAI, Accffab TB, bassanni x pipe w/ slp LM2, SCT tuned. 294HP 324TQ

05-04-2014, 03:03 PM	#58
03Shakered shake N bake Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Ft. Lewis, WA Posts: 110	Re: toasted the motor So all cylinders read between 200-215. #5( front driver side?) is zero __________________ Mods: K&N CAI, Accffab TB, bassanni x pipe w/ slp LM2, SCT tuned. 294HP 324TQ

05-04-2014, 08:27 PM	#59
glittle75 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Burlington, NC Posts: 62	Re: toasted the motor Bent valves, notched piston on #5, you need to pull the motor. Probly gonna have broken guides, and a trashed chamber. New head and piston, or a rebuild is in order.

05-06-2014, 02:34 PM	#60
03Shakered shake N bake Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Ft. Lewis, WA Posts: 110	Re: toasted the motor So to save myself money that I don't have, I will be pulling the head with the engine in the car. If anyone has done this with advise or tips please feel free. __________________ Mods: K&N CAI, Accffab TB, bassanni x pipe w/ slp LM2, SCT tuned. 294HP 324TQ

05-06-2014, 03:07 PM	#61
Mach828 Dark Knight Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 5,759	Re: toasted the motor I think the time you will save by being able to work on the car with the motor out will be well worth the trouble of trying to pull the head and time everything with it still in the car. I don't even think its possible to pull the head off without pulling the motor. Dropping the K member really isn't that bad. If I was pulling my motor I would take the trans out, then drop it from the bottom with the K member. __________________ Vortech V2 S-trim, E85, A2A Treadstone, Comp cams, built engine, full exhaust, built rear, built 4r70, more mods. Tuned by me with SCT Advantage

05-07-2014, 08:37 AM	#63
03Shakered shake N bake Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Ft. Lewis, WA Posts: 110	Re: toasted the motor Yeah from what I have read,and talked to a bunch of people it will suck. So I've just decited to sell my soul on a personal loan and have it towed to a shop..... I don't have the time or tools to pull the motor. Being on call 24 hours really sucks and I really need this car up and running.... fml... __________________ Mods: K&N CAI, Accffab TB, bassanni x pipe w/ slp LM2, SCT tuned. 294HP 324TQ

05-07-2014, 01:18 PM	#64
Stopsign32v Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 2,554	Re: toasted the motor I feel your pain man. Just make sure the shop has a good reputation and make sure they can explain where every dime is going that they charge you. Shops ALOT of the times make up some fantasy charges and you end up paying them. Edit: Do your research on the shop. Post on here and SVTP on shops around you. Also shops that are not local to you tend to jerk you around and your car will be the last one to be worked on over other cars that are local to them. I've seen it and had it happen to me. Try to stay local that way if something happens you can drive and check it out. Also I would suggest just popping in to see how things are going. It shouldn't be this way, but it is...most shops are shady. __________________ 03 white Mach1 JLT RAI \| 1/2 spacer \| Catback \| 4.56s 7.76@87.8mph

05-12-2014, 04:58 PM	#66
not a gt Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waaayy out in the country,leave your GPS at home! Posts: 4,825	Re: toasted the motor The guy has done lots of hot rods. I took it there. Name of "the guy" and shop? __________________ 2003 DSG Mach 1-03 Cobra Term/T56 swap: 2.3L Whipple,3.37 Upper,4 lb.lower, ID 1000 injectors,LCD cooling mod,Billetflow idlers,200A Alt,oil cooler delete with MMR adapter plate,MM oil filter kit,FrozenBoost Heat Exchanger Flowtech L.T., Maganaflow O/R X with Magnapacks, FRRP D.S.,T-56 with 26 spline input shaft and anti venom mod with reverse lockout box, FR steel flywheel,Spec Stage 3+,Moser 31 spline axles,FR 3.73 gear Tuned by B.Kurgan 601Hp/558/Tq

06-10-2014, 11:16 PM	#68
03Shakered shake N bake Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Ft. Lewis, WA Posts: 110	Re: toasted the motor Passenger side 2 intake valves bent. Driver side all intake and exhaust were bent. Most we're not bent bad but replaced them anyways __________________ Mods: K&N CAI, Accffab TB, bassanni x pipe w/ slp LM2, SCT tuned. 294HP 324TQ

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