Cons of removing diff vibration dampner? - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

WhiteautoMach · 10-23-2008, 10:35 AM

Why did Ford put that thing there? No other cars have it. Will it really reduce vibrations and/or make the bearings live longer?

R-code17815 · 10-23-2008, 11:02 AM

I've been pulling them off for years and never had any problems.

ITLRUN · 10-23-2008, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteautoMach

Why did Ford put that thing there? No other cars have it. Will it really reduce vibrations and/or make the bearings live longer?

Why did Ford do it? NVH (Noise, Vibration and Harshness)

The worst part is getting dirty when you climb under the car!!!! If you have a different rear gear set you really need to remove it.

gfong · 10-23-2008, 05:58 PM

Main reason is what they stated above and also at the factory they do not take the time to really set them up so they have a tolerance to fall into with set ups. the extra weight that it adds ensures that they do not make noise. If you change anything back there get rid of it as it does nothing but add weight.

birdman941 · 10-23-2008, 06:00 PM

If you change the GEAR RATIO it serves no purpose,
as it is tuned to reduce cabin noise from the differential with stock gears.

2k4mach · 10-23-2008, 06:01 PM

once you change gears its basically worthless. ive got a few of them laying around in the garage from all the mustangs ive taken them off. lol

birdman941 · 10-23-2008, 06:20 PM

I'll bet that's why it feels "damper" in your garage than it used to.

JDraper · 10-23-2008, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by birdman941

I'll bet that's why it feels "damper" in your garage than it used to.

aaahh...you're all wet over that one.....

birdman941 · 10-23-2008, 07:31 PM

The punmaster strikes again!

WhiteautoMach · 10-23-2008, 08:25 PM

I still have stock gears. So now what?

JDraper · 10-23-2008, 08:30 PM

Take it off. If you notice more vibration or noise, put it back on. If not, leave it off.

03Mach1BoyAdam · 10-24-2008, 11:32 AM

Take it off and lose 9 lbs

RandyStinchcomb · 10-24-2008, 12:12 PM

just an FYI for those that take it off;
make sure you re-attach the upper stamped steel brkt, as it serves as the contact point for the rear pinion snubber

RunninRed · 10-24-2008, 01:03 PM

What if your rear pinion snubber has dissapeared too??

jledesma · 10-24-2008, 01:21 PM

Okay, still learning more about the Mach. What does this part look like, any picture? I changed to 4.10's so if not needed, I would probably like to remove it. I can do this myself with basic tools?

Thanks, JL

03Mach1BoyAdam · 10-24-2008, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jledesma

Okay, still learning more about the Mach. What does this part look like, any picture? I changed to 4.10's so if not needed, I would probably like to remove it. I can do this myself with basic tools?

Thanks, JL

It hangs off of the rear pumpkin, in the front of it. It has two bolts that hold it in place, you really don't need it and it can save some weight!

lxh89 · 10-24-2008, 05:01 PM

Removing weight from the rear of the car is really counter productive.. any weight savings gained there will cost you in the 60' and ultimately ET.

Tony

RunninRed · 10-24-2008, 05:04 PM

Negative, just means you need to set up your suspension better. Better tires, etc... Reducing weight WILL NOT hurt you.

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Originally Posted by lxh89

Removing weight from the rear of the car is really counter productive.. any weight savings gained there will cost you in the 60' and ultimately ET.

Tony

lxh89 · 10-24-2008, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RunninRed

Negative, just means you need to set up your suspension better. Better tires, etc... Reducing weight WILL NOT hurt you.

I bet you your car will 60ft better and run a quicker ET with a full tank of gas vs near empty.

Tony

RunninRed · 10-24-2008, 05:14 PM

Tried it.

1.47 60 with half tank
1.45 with a little less than a 1/4 tank

My 60's are consistantly 1.46. And when I'm racing I try to keep just over a 1/4 tank of gas in the car.

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Originally Posted by lxh89

I bet you your car will 60ft better and run a quicker ET with a full tank of gas vs near empty.

Tony

lxh89 · 10-24-2008, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RunninRed

Tried it.

1.47 60 with half tank
1.45 with a little less than a 1/4 tank

My 60's are consistantly 1.46. And when I'm racing I try to keep just over a 1/4 tank of gas in the car.

Whatever lol...

Tony

RunninRed · 10-24-2008, 05:42 PM

Did I miss something?? You not believe me?

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Originally Posted by lxh89

Whatever lol...

Tony

03Mach1BoyAdam · 10-25-2008, 07:53 AM

If your concerned about losing weight from the dampener you could always relocate the battery to the rear of the car.

one mach 1 · 10-25-2008, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by birdman941

The punmaster strikes again!

That was very punny!!

Don't forget that those things dangling from your rear are Mooseballs!!

Robert Fray · 11-01-2008, 11:34 AM

I am glad I read this . I have wanted to take that thing off for a while but thought Ford put it there for a reason. If it does nothing but add weight and cut down on vibration it is coming off.

10-23-2008, 10:35 AM	#1
WhiteautoMach Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 472	Cons of removing diff vibration dampner? Why did Ford put that thing there? No other cars have it. Will it really reduce vibrations and/or make the bearings live longer? __________________ '03 Automatic. No silencer, K&N FIPK, 3450# race weight, drag radials, cat back, custom tune, alum. driveshaft, intake spacer, raised scoop, underdrive pulleys, larger subframe connectors, synthetic engine oil, removed front sway bar, battery to trunk, 2.06 60', 12.99 @ 107.4

10-23-2008, 11:02 AM	#2
R-code17815 The MODfather #7046 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bloomsburg, PA Posts: 1,360	Re: Cons of removing diff vibration dampner? I've been pulling them off for years and never had any problems. __________________ R-code17815 2003 Mach1 6-spd. Black Black Sunshine... The never ending "Work in Progress" RTCTTFMF

10-23-2008, 05:58 PM	#4
gfong Greg Fonger Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 3,416	Re: Cons of removing diff vibration dampner? Main reason is what they stated above and also at the factory they do not take the time to really set them up so they have a tolerance to fall into with set ups. the extra weight that it adds ensures that they do not make noise. If you change anything back there get rid of it as it does nothing but add weight.

10-23-2008, 06:00 PM	#5
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10-23-2008, 06:01 PM	#6
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10-23-2008, 06:20 PM	#7
birdman941 Torque wins! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 13,167	Re: Cons of removing diff vibration dampner? I'll bet that's why it feels "damper" in your garage than it used to. __________________ The ORIGINAL Project R build thread is back ! 5.4 32V NA Streetable 404/387 26.56 MPG "I don't like repeat offenders, I like DEAD offenders" Ted Nugent "A big engine hardly working is more efficient than a little engine screaming its head off" Jay Leno

10-23-2008, 07:31 PM	#9
birdman941 Torque wins! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 13,167	Re: Cons of removing diff vibration dampner? The punmaster strikes again! __________________ The ORIGINAL Project R build thread is back ! 5.4 32V NA Streetable 404/387 26.56 MPG "I don't like repeat offenders, I like DEAD offenders" Ted Nugent "A big engine hardly working is more efficient than a little engine screaming its head off" Jay Leno

10-23-2008, 08:25 PM	#10
WhiteautoMach Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 472	Re: Cons of removing diff vibration dampner? I still have stock gears. So now what? __________________ '03 Automatic. No silencer, K&N FIPK, 3450# race weight, drag radials, cat back, custom tune, alum. driveshaft, intake spacer, raised scoop, underdrive pulleys, larger subframe connectors, synthetic engine oil, removed front sway bar, battery to trunk, 2.06 60', 12.99 @ 107.4

10-23-2008, 08:30 PM	#11
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10-24-2008, 11:32 AM	#12
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10-24-2008, 12:12 PM	#13
RandyStinchcomb Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Randallstown, Md Posts: 74	Re: Cons of removing diff vibration dampner? just an FYI for those that take it off; make sure you re-attach the upper stamped steel brkt, as it serves as the contact point for the rear pinion snubber

10-24-2008, 01:03 PM	#14
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jledesma Book'em Danno! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ewa Beach, HI Posts: 454	Re: Cons of removing diff vibration dampner? Okay, still learning more about the Mach. What does this part look like, any picture? I changed to 4.10's so if not needed, I would probably like to remove it. I can do this myself with basic tools? Thanks, JL __________________ MAC ss catback Pypes O/R X Roy's 3/8" spacer C&L intake system 4.10's MM springs Bilstein HD's MM cc plates SCT X3 Slotted/Drilled rotors Hawk HPS pads. AFS '03 Cobra replicas 18x9 & 18x10.5 Nitto Invo 275/35/18 & 295/35/18 Cobra folding mirrors & other Cobra exterior parts AM smoked headlight & fogs. HID 8k headlight and fogs Future Mods: LT headers, MM flsfc, panhard, Torque converter, and more Cobra body parts .

10-24-2008, 05:01 PM	#17
lxh89 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 1,530	Re: Cons of removing diff vibration dampner? Removing weight from the rear of the car is really counter productive.. any weight savings gained there will cost you in the 60' and ultimately ET. Tony __________________ 2015 Ruby Red Mustang GT Premium Bone Stock 03 Oxford White Mach 1 - SOLD 1.72 60',10.932@131.60MPH, 3800# Raceweight

10-25-2008, 07:53 AM	#23
03Mach1BoyAdam Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cecil County, MD Posts: 785	Re: Cons of removing diff vibration dampner? If your concerned about losing weight from the dampener you could always relocate the battery to the rear of the car. __________________ 2003 Torch Red Mach 1 - 5 Speed IUP Steeda Tri Ax Short Throw,Steeda Clutch Quadrant, Steeda Firewall Adjuster, Steeda Shock Tower Brace, MMR Rear Seat Delete, FRPP UCA's, Roush Stage 2 LCA's, Moser 31 Spline Axles, FRPP 31 Spline LSD, FRPP 4.10's, FRPP Aluminum DS, Swarr Rear Axle Brace, GMS Girdle, Steeda G Trac Bar, PHP Spacer, JLT RAI, Predator Tuner, 1/2" Shaker Extension, H&R SS Springs, MM C/C Plates, MAC Long Tubes, MAC O/R H Pipe, Magnaflow Magnapacks, 17x9 & 17x10.5 Black FR500's.

11-01-2008, 11:34 AM	#25
Robert Fray Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Little Rock Arkansas Posts: 82	Re: Cons of removing diff vibration dampner? I am glad I read this . I have wanted to take that thing off for a while but thought Ford put it there for a reason. If it does nothing but add weight and cut down on vibration it is coming off.

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