Completely overheated - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

Magzpony · 10-18-2008, 10:50 AM

So I'm leaving the bank yesterday morning and I notice what looks like smoke or steam out the back end. I get to work (1/4 mile from bank), lift the hood and notice fluid sprayed over the overflow tank, fuse cover, batter, etc. I get it home (by the grace of $%D), but not before the TEMP gauge pegs red. I open the rad cap and the bypass plug...empty. I pulled the plugs, all look normal, no oil or water. I should mention that for a little while I noticed a small amount of fluid under the passenger side front end. Everytime I checked underneath, I saw nothing.

Going to pick up some anitfreeze and distilled H2O. Do you guys have any thoughts of what happened? How serious?

Thankz guyz.

wcjr · 10-18-2008, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Magzpony

So I'm leaving the bank yesterday morning and I notice what looks like smoke or steam out the back end. I get to work (1/4 mile from bank), lift the hood and notice fluid sprayed over the overflow tank, fuse cover, batter, etc. I get it home (by the grace of $%D), but not before the TEMP gauge pegs red. I open the rad cap and the bypass plug...empty. I pulled the plugs, all look normal, no oil or water. I should mention that for a little while I noticed a small amount of fluid under the passenger side front end. Everytime I checked underneath, I saw nothing.

Going to pick up some anitfreeze and distilled H2O. Do you guys have any thoughts of what happened? How serious?

Thankz guyz.

BTW: For future reference if you car is overheating, shut it off and get it towed home. Better safe than sorry. Blowing the head gaskets cost a pretty penny to fix if you have to get a shop to do it.

So are you saying that you can leave the car sitting for a few hours and come back and there is a puddle of antifreeze on the passenger side?

wcjr · 10-18-2008, 12:18 PM

Sounds like the seal on the water pump may be bad...possibly

Check around the water pump and see if there is a puddle of antifreeze right below it on the timing cover, right in that little valley.

I would also change the oil to see if it is milky looking.

acreature · 10-18-2008, 12:21 PM

Burp

RandyStinchcomb · 10-18-2008, 12:45 PM

bad CCRM or Coolant Fan took a Dump

Magzpony · 10-18-2008, 12:54 PM

Car didn't show overheating until I stopped. I checked the dipstick (which seemed lower than usual, but the color wasn't milky (looked normal).

As for the puddle under the car... It didn't happen all he time, just every once in a while there would be a small pool (about the size of a tortilla shell). I'm going under to check the stat and if there is a pool under the water pump. I'll let ya'll know.

So far, what little coolant in the overflow tank doesn't show any oil, the oil looks normal, the plugs are clean and dry... What am I missing?

Beefy Nugz · 10-18-2008, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Magzpony

Car didn't show overheating until I stopped. I checked the dipstick (which seemed lower than usual, but the color wasn't milky (looked normal).

As for the puddle under the car... It didn't happen all he time, just every once in a while there would be a small pool (about the size of a tortilla shell). I'm going under to check the stat and if there is a pool under the water pump. I'll let ya'll know.

So far, what little coolant in the overflow tank doesn't show any oil, the oil looks normal, the plugs are clean and dry... What am I missing?

Flour or corn? Thats a big difference that needs to be specified for us to give accurate information. LOL

Magzpony · 10-18-2008, 04:13 PM

Ok... from underneath only the driver's side is wet w/ coolant (lines, stat, etc.). Visually, the stat housing seems intact.

Fenixfire · 10-18-2008, 06:32 PM

I dont recommend you drive the car till you find out whats wrong. Otherwise, you have a good shot at blowing your motor and that will suck bad...

You definitely have a leak somewhere.

nickster · 10-18-2008, 06:49 PM

maybe its just a hose clamp on 1 of the hoses going to the thermastat housing, they are crapy if used more than 1,s . i had to change 1 so i bought new 1,s for all

Magzpony · 10-18-2008, 06:56 PM

Ok now I'm just plain pissed... I ran the car up on ramps so that I could test the t-stat (which worked fine). I began to refill the overflow tank and the bypass. Ran the car to get it up to OT. I just checked the oil again to make certain no problems...the level is even lower than yesterday... WTF!!!

I'm about to throw in the towel...

Magzpony · 10-18-2008, 06:58 PM

If the Rad cap was faulty, would it cause a loss of coolant? I only ask because under the hood looks like spray from the overflow tank, specifically the cap. What do you think?

DannyStyle22 · 10-18-2008, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Magzpony

Ok now I'm just plain pissed... I ran the car up on ramps so that I could test the t-stat (which worked fine). I began to refill the overflow tank and the bypass. Ran the car to get it up to OT. I just checked the oil again to make certain no problems...the level is even lower than yesterday... WTF!!!

I'm about to throw in the towel...

did you check the oil right after you turned it off? If so oil could still be up in the heads workin its way down. Make sure your are checking it under the same conditions.

dirty4v · 10-18-2008, 07:16 PM

there is fluid around the cap because the pressure limit was exceeded and the cap did it's job to bleed pressure off

DannyStyle22 · 10-18-2008, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dirty4v

there is fluid around the cap because the pressure limit was exceeded and the cap did it's job to bleed pressure off

what he said

nickster · 10-18-2008, 08:23 PM

maybe just air locked , take out bleed plug in the crossover and blow in the overflow tank till you get fluid in the cross over

Magzpony · 10-18-2008, 09:28 PM

Just wanted to give you all an update. Everything is back to normal. Apparently there was an air bubble. After I drained the radiator and coolant lines and refilled w/ coolant. I topped off the oil I lost due to the overheating and ran it for 30 mins... the idiot gauge was actually lower than ever before.

Thank you to all of you. Your help kept my pony on the street and not couped up in the stable. Thanks again for all the wisdom.

GTSSTANG · 10-18-2008, 11:01 PM

Nevermind.. I did not read your last post...

Magzpony · 10-19-2008, 11:10 AM

Funny enough... that is my next question... where is the leak coming from? I really am running out of ideas of why my coolany was so low. To be honest, up until last weekend, I didn't notice it was so low. Once I did, I started to open the rad cap and heard the pressure bleed off. As the pressure was releasing, I noticed the fluid in the overflow tank rising. I'm willing to bet that caused the air pocket since the fluid level was already low.

I'm thinking about pulling the fan/shroud and checking all the lines. Let the fun and games begin...

Magzpony · 10-19-2008, 04:37 PM

How do you test the cap or the degassing tank?

Magzpony · 11-09-2008, 03:35 PM

I still find a small puddle (3"-6" diameter) evern once in a while. I removed the overflow tank... there's a crack about 2"-3" long. Gonna have to replace the tank. Any ideas what could cause the crack? Any suggestions on what to replace with (stock, aftermarket, etc.)?

10-18-2008, 10:50 AM	#1
Magzpony Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Jupiter, FL Posts: 82	Completely overheated So I'm leaving the bank yesterday morning and I notice what looks like smoke or steam out the back end. I get to work (1/4 mile from bank), lift the hood and notice fluid sprayed over the overflow tank, fuse cover, batter, etc. I get it home (by the grace of $%D), but not before the TEMP gauge pegs red. I open the rad cap and the bypass plug...empty. I pulled the plugs, all look normal, no oil or water. I should mention that for a little while I noticed a small amount of fluid under the passenger side front end. Everytime I checked underneath, I saw nothing. Going to pick up some anitfreeze and distilled H2O. Do you guys have any thoughts of what happened? How serious? Thankz guyz.

10-18-2008, 12:18 PM	#3
wcjr Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Kentucky Posts: 518	Re: Completely overheated Sounds like the seal on the water pump may be bad...possibly Check around the water pump and see if there is a puddle of antifreeze right below it on the timing cover, right in that little valley. I would also change the oil to see if it is milky looking.

10-18-2008, 12:21 PM	#4
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10-18-2008, 12:45 PM	#5
RandyStinchcomb Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Randallstown, Md Posts: 74	Re: Completely overheated bad CCRM or Coolant Fan took a Dump

10-18-2008, 12:54 PM	#6
Magzpony Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Jupiter, FL Posts: 82	Re: Completely overheated Car didn't show overheating until I stopped. I checked the dipstick (which seemed lower than usual, but the color wasn't milky (looked normal). As for the puddle under the car... It didn't happen all he time, just every once in a while there would be a small pool (about the size of a tortilla shell). I'm going under to check the stat and if there is a pool under the water pump. I'll let ya'll know. So far, what little coolant in the overflow tank doesn't show any oil, the oil looks normal, the plugs are clean and dry... What am I missing?

10-18-2008, 04:13 PM	#8
Magzpony Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Jupiter, FL Posts: 82	Re: Completely overheated Ok... from underneath only the driver's side is wet w/ coolant (lines, stat, etc.). Visually, the stat housing seems intact.

10-18-2008, 06:32 PM	#9
Fenixfire Its stock....No really! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 4,433	Re: Completely overheated I dont recommend you drive the car till you find out whats wrong. Otherwise, you have a good shot at blowing your motor and that will suck bad... You definitely have a leak somewhere. __________________ 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 5spd w/ IUP Mods: Lots of new stuff coming.....stay tuned

10-18-2008, 06:49 PM	#10
nickster certified MACH 1 nut Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: nova scotia canada Posts: 1,520	Re: Completely overheated maybe its just a hose clamp on 1 of the hoses going to the thermastat housing, they are crapy if used more than 1,s . i had to change 1 so i bought new 1,s for all __________________ shm stage 2 cams,dynomax longtubes,2 3/4 h pipe homemade,excal2,wideband commander,proracers package,60#injectors,2400 mas air,eaton,forged motor,4# metco ring,1 of a kind pully bridge,and great #s on a stock eaton 476.88rwhp-451.74rwtq

10-18-2008, 06:56 PM	#11
Magzpony Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Jupiter, FL Posts: 82	Re: Completely overheated Ok now I'm just plain pissed... I ran the car up on ramps so that I could test the t-stat (which worked fine). I began to refill the overflow tank and the bypass. Ran the car to get it up to OT. I just checked the oil again to make certain no problems...the level is even lower than yesterday... WTF!!! I'm about to throw in the towel...

10-18-2008, 06:58 PM	#12
Magzpony Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Jupiter, FL Posts: 82	Re: Completely overheated If the Rad cap was faulty, would it cause a loss of coolant? I only ask because under the hood looks like spray from the overflow tank, specifically the cap. What do you think?

10-18-2008, 07:16 PM	#14
dirty4v Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: woodstock, ga Posts: 319	Re: Completely overheated there is fluid around the cap because the pressure limit was exceeded and the cap did it's job to bleed pressure off __________________ 2003 Mach 1, black on black Mofaster

10-18-2008, 08:23 PM	#16
nickster certified MACH 1 nut Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: nova scotia canada Posts: 1,520	Re: Completely overheated maybe just air locked , take out bleed plug in the crossover and blow in the overflow tank till you get fluid in the cross over __________________ shm stage 2 cams,dynomax longtubes,2 3/4 h pipe homemade,excal2,wideband commander,proracers package,60#injectors,2400 mas air,eaton,forged motor,4# metco ring,1 of a kind pully bridge,and great #s on a stock eaton 476.88rwhp-451.74rwtq

10-18-2008, 09:28 PM	#17
Magzpony Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Jupiter, FL Posts: 82	Re: Completely overheated Just wanted to give you all an update. Everything is back to normal. Apparently there was an air bubble. After I drained the radiator and coolant lines and refilled w/ coolant. I topped off the oil I lost due to the overheating and ran it for 30 mins... the idiot gauge was actually lower than ever before. Thank you to all of you. Your help kept my pony on the street and not couped up in the stable. Thanks again for all the wisdom.

10-18-2008, 11:01 PM	#18
GTSSTANG Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Royal Palm Beach, FL Posts: 44	Re: Completely overheated Nevermind.. I did not read your last post...

10-19-2008, 11:10 AM	#19
Magzpony Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Jupiter, FL Posts: 82	Re: Completely overheated Funny enough... that is my next question... where is the leak coming from? I really am running out of ideas of why my coolany was so low. To be honest, up until last weekend, I didn't notice it was so low. Once I did, I started to open the rad cap and heard the pressure bleed off. As the pressure was releasing, I noticed the fluid in the overflow tank rising. I'm willing to bet that caused the air pocket since the fluid level was already low. I'm thinking about pulling the fan/shroud and checking all the lines. Let the fun and games begin...

10-19-2008, 04:37 PM	#20
Magzpony Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Jupiter, FL Posts: 82	Re: Completely overheated How do you test the cap or the degassing tank?

11-09-2008, 03:35 PM	#21
Magzpony Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Jupiter, FL Posts: 82	Re: Completely overheated I still find a small puddle (3"-6" diameter) evern once in a while. I removed the overflow tank... there's a crack about 2"-3" long. Gonna have to replace the tank. Any ideas what could cause the crack? Any suggestions on what to replace with (stock, aftermarket, etc.)?

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