NASCAR thread

[311-420]

Originally Posted by Big Ron

http://www.nascar.com/2010/news/opin...win/index.html


#3..........I had tears in my eyes (beer)!

I'll go for a repeat tonight with the #88.

dammit. Is sprint tonite? I'm not gonna be able to see it

[falcongtho3]

Originally Posted by Big Ron

#3..........I had tears in my eyes (beer)!

I'll go for a repeat tonight with the #88.

Puhleeze tell my you didn't buy into that 'win' last night. If there was ever a WWE sponsored race, scripted and all, then that was it. I was so pizzed after looking forward to the debut of the Mustang and Challenger and hearing nothing but #3 this and #3 that. They blew a great chance to cater to the fans who understood the importance of the new cars, and decided to bow down to the lowest denominator...the Earn-heads.

The Cup race is at least more enjoyable, with a good mix of leaders, and Kyle getting turned (as he said) by the 42. Now if onyl the 48 can kiss the wall, it'll be a really good race.

[Thunderbolt]

Hahahahehehehoho, Wipeout!

[falcongtho3]

Glad to see Mark got out of his 'hot' car OK, and that everyone else was all right. Even happier to see JJ drop in the points standings. What a way to take out half the field!

[Rustangin]

Originally Posted by Big Ron

#3..........I had tears in my eyes (beer)!

I'll go for a repeat tonight with the #88.

Nascar .... what a load .... mmm lets just put Jr in the 3 car so he can mysteriously win .... talk about rigged

[gbranton]

Originally Posted by falcongtho3

Puhleeze tell my you didn't buy into that 'win' last night. If there was ever a WWE sponsored race, scripted and all, then that was it.

Can anybody look me in the eye tell me with a straight face that this crap isn't rigged?

[G]

It ain't rigged. There is just too much going on to fix a race. You can't control the cars around you, bad engine parts, the weather, Kyle bigears, and any number of other variables. Even Oliver Stone can't find evidence of a race being fixed.

I'm not a jr fan but I don't think for a minute his win was not legit. He won using a car that was legal but you have to know they put the best of everything in that machine.

Any evidence of cheating or special treatment??????

[falcongtho3]

Originally Posted by G

Any evidence of cheating or special treatment??????

Watching some of the most dominant drivers in the series pretty much run on cruise control behind someone who hasn't had a victory in two years might be considered evidence...

[gvervoren]

I agree. Noone even really challenged Jr. at the end of the race. Like Falco said, they just kinda rode around in cruise control on those last few laps behind him. It's like they were all scared to pass him cause they didn't want to ruin the moment. They didn't even try to pass him.

[gbranton]

There may be something to this. I painted a "3" on the side of my Mach and went 10.99 bone stock on the oe Goodyears.

[311-420]

Jr is just lucky 18 had a more restrictive plate. Wouldve been a blood bath had the power been equal.

[Thunderbolt]

Originally Posted by 311-420

18 had a more restrictive plate. Wouldve been a blood bath had the power been equal.

Huh? I never watch the Nationwide or Truck races unless I'm at the track, but I did'nt understand this, or were you just saying it was rigged also?

[G]

Originally Posted by falcongtho3

Watching some of the most dominant drivers in the series pretty much run on cruise control behind someone who hasn't had a victory in two years might be considered evidence...

There have always been dominant drivers and teams. Why if they fix the races for Jr does his win column with the 88 look sad. They put a maximum effort in that car and it performed well. Many of you can also face the fact that Jr has a good record at Daytona and IS a 2 time champion in that series. I'm not a Jr fan but give the guy some credit.

FYI, running behind Jr until the end is a great way to win a race. If Logano is telling the truth he planned a last lap pass but didn't get help. He started 10th and finished 2nd so it looks like a smart move on his part not that the fix was in.

I'll go back to my first point, you can't fix a race with so many variables unless you allow someone to cheat. I don't think for a second there was an organized effort to allow the "3" to cheat. Another thing was the Gen2 factor which made the cars more of a challenge to drive. I still don't get why Chevy didn't use the Camaro for the series and not the Impala.

You will notice that the Mustang that finished 3rd was driven by the guy with much of the limited test time with the new cars.

[311-420]

Originally Posted by Thunderbolt

Huh? I never watch the Nationwide or Truck races unless I'm at the track, but I did'nt understand this, or were you just saying it was rigged also?

the Toyota cars had a bigger restrictor plate for the nationwide race. The race was a debut for the new body styles. Mustang, challenger etc.

I'm not sure why Gibbs was experimenting with that particular plate, but Kyle and the other toyotas were out-matched on HP by the rest of the field. He could have easily moved around jr. No doubt about it.

[falcongtho3]

Well that was certainly a fun little race last night for the N'Wide guys. Looks like Brad (or at least his dad) can't deal with playing with the big boys. Carl gave him payback, and then the 'fun' started.

[311-420]

Mr backflip might be in trouble again.. Makes for great show but there's a limit to anything. Spin out in corner is different than in the straight away. But, brad knows how Carl is and he shouldve waited til turn 4 to bump and run instead of 2!

[falcongtho3]

Brad just got a taste of what he was dishing out, just with a bit more spice. Remember, this all goes back to when Brad put Carl into the catch fence (Atlanta?) last year. It ain't over...

[gbranton]

We caught the end of the race waiting for drag racing to start. I joked that Carl was going to do that about two laps before it happened. After watching the post race interview, my wife's theory is that Edwards is a sociopath.

[Thunderbolt]

Originally Posted by falcongtho3

this all goes back to when Brad put Carl into the catch fence (Atlanta?) last year.

Spring race at Talladega last year. I was in the infield at that race.

[falcongtho3]

Originally Posted by Thunderbolt

Spring race at Talladega last year. I was in the infield at that race.

Thanks for the correction. I knew it had happened at a big track, but I didn't recall which one.

[311-420]

They've been doing this for a while, not just at talladega.

Edwards IS a sociopath. Keselowski picked the wrong guy to F with.

[G]

Originally Posted by gbranton

We caught the end of the race waiting for drag racing to start. I joked that Carl was going to do that about two laps before it happened. After watching the post race interview, my wife's theory is that Edwards is a sociopath.

Your wife is correct but his problems don't end there. This illustrates the problem with NASCAR failing to get him under control after Atlanta. The potential to kill or hurt fans or other drivers is high and he does not have the self control to NOT act irresponsibly. Look at the damage he has caused to the other teams; it's sickening that he cares so little for his fellow competitors.

I think anyone who considers what he did as payback for the little bump he got from Brad is blind. He could have been shoved into the wall if that's what Brad wanted to do. Brad had a better car at all points in the race and the only way Carl could win was the low class move he made on the last lap. At one time I considered CE as one of my favorite drivers but now he is rated lower than even kyle big ears.

I'm not a fan of Rick Hendrick but you notice he has not considered CE as a candidate to work for him. It's more than contract related.

[Rustangin]

That a boy Carl!! Loved it!!!

[japan4racing]

i dont fault carl at all....if brad hadnt gone in the the fences at talledega none of this would be being discussed. many drivers do the same thing carl did at dega. its foolish anytime some one spins another at high speeds but that car going airborne was just as much a design issue as it was bad choice from carl. with the wing that was on the cars then it created lift. nascar knew it too...thats why they were already talking about going back to the spoiler when that crash happened. if that car had not gotten airborne no one would have thought twice about the crash. carl is still my driver even though he aint doing worth a **** this year...and i really hope brads dad "does something about it"

[NJOHC]

Carl races everybody clean untill they give him a reason to do otherwise. Brad had given him many reasons in that race to do what he did. There was no way brad would have caught Carl if he wouldn't have bumped him. Everyone is saying it was a sickening win by Carl, even if brad won he would have moved him out of the way to do so. What happens after you spin a guy out is not under your control. The aftermath of that could have gone good or bad, it just happened to be bad. I think Brad deserved it and Carl should be docked some points. If NASCAR parks him they'll basically be contradicting what they said in the start of the season.