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Old 04-15-2019, 07:13 AM   #1
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2020 Hi-Po 4 cyl?

Yep, it's real...or it will be soon...
https://www.motor1.com/news/344547/f...mance-package/

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Old 04-15-2019, 10:12 AM   #2
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Re: 2020 Hi-Po 4 cyl?

nevermind

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Old 04-15-2019, 12:57 PM   #3
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Re: 2020 Hi-Po 4 cyl?

hi-po badge is stupid imho. Doesnt the 18/19 ecoboost make 310/350? I mean hey, another 20hp is nice but its not some crazy leap forward
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Old 04-15-2019, 09:14 PM   #4
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Re: 2020 Hi-Po 4 cyl?

Should have gone with the 2.7 V6 , horsepower 5 less but torque is at 380.
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Old 04-16-2019, 02:13 AM   #5
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Re: 2020 Hi-Po 4 cyl?

How about the 400 HP 400 LB/FT 3.0 Lincoln V6 twin turbo
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Old 04-16-2019, 08:59 PM   #6
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How about the 400 HP 400 LB/FT 3.0 Lincoln V6 twin turbo
That would be even better, but I think it would cut into 5.0 GT sales, which is their cash Cow!
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Old 04-17-2019, 10:16 AM   #7
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Re: 2020 Hi-Po 4 cyl?

Yes the 2.7L EcoBust would wake that car up. In fact, it would be faster than the 5.0 and that's exactly why they'll never do it.

Even in the F-150s, the 2.7L trucks mop the floor with the 5.0L trucks. It's ... hard for me to accept.
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Old 04-17-2019, 12:39 PM   #8
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Re: 2020 Hi-Po 4 cyl?

I did read where the cars are supposed to be 200lb lighter in 2020. That's a good thing.
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I did read where the cars are supposed to be 200lb lighter in 2020. That's a good thing.
That was with the S650 platform, which will probably never see the light of day. Look for the new Explorer platform to underpin the next gen Mustang, and it will be heavy. Challenger/Charger heavy. Supremely stupid move on Fords part.

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That was with the S650 platform, which will probably never see the light of day. Look for the new Explorer platform to underpin the next gen Mustang, and it will be heavy. Challenger/Charger heavy. Supremely stupid move on Fords part.

I think Ford has made some good decisions with their Trucks and Crossovers, but in regards to the Mustang and it's future. Their heads are up their behinds!
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Old 04-20-2019, 04:52 PM   #11
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That was with the S650 platform, which will probably never see the light of day. Look for the new Explorer platform to underpin the next gen Mustang, and it will be heavy. Challenger/Charger heavy. Supremely stupid move on Fords part.

And all this time, I have been hoping the Charger and Challenger would eventually get smaller and lighter, but instead the Mustang is on its way to becoming another member of the big and heavy club.
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Old 04-20-2019, 06:17 PM   #12
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Re: 2020 Hi-Po 4 cyl?

we all used to talk about how heavy the lightnings were and soon theyll be lighter!
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Old 04-22-2019, 12:01 AM   #13
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Re: 2020 Hi-Po 4 cyl?

unfortunately, in this day and age we can only partially blame vehicle weight on the manufacturer. there are so many safety requirements to meet that comparing a mustang today to a mustang even 5 years ago is not a fair comparison. my 2004 never had to consider lane departure warning, adaptive cruise, a pedestrian impact friendly hood, rear camera, etc etc etc. even if the vehicle is not spec'd for these options the groundwork is probably there and wiring/electronics adds weight. yes, improvements in metal and other weight savings materials has also made progress in that time, but the amount of tech that is being forced into vehicles these days is crazy and it all adds weight. it's not like ford wants to make each generation of vehicle heavier than the last.
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Old 04-22-2019, 08:25 AM   #14
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unfortunately, in this day and age we can only partially blame vehicle weight on the manufacturer. there are so many safety requirements to meet that comparing a mustang today to a mustang even 5 years ago is not a fair comparison. my 2004 never had to consider lane departure warning, adaptive cruise, a pedestrian impact friendly hood, rear camera, etc etc etc. even if the vehicle is not spec'd for these options the groundwork is probably there and wiring/electronics adds weight. yes, improvements in metal and other weight savings materials has also made progress in that time, but the amount of tech that is being forced into vehicles these days is crazy and it all adds weight. it's not like ford wants to make each generation of vehicle heavier than the last.
That's government for ya - you have to include all this extra **** and btw get better mileage too!
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Old 04-22-2019, 04:04 PM   #15
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Re: 2020 Hi-Po 4 cyl?

Don't worry Ford is saving the Mustang on Earth Day !
They announced that a new Electric Mustang is in the development stages... LOL. Saving the Earth has a problem that no one wants to discuss. There is still no safe way to dispose of the batteries !
Meantime Tesla that is openly laughing at Ford ,is fighting high amp shorting of wiring harnesses that have sent cars off the road or burned to the ground.
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Saving the Earth has a problem that no one wants to discuss. There is still no safe way to dispose of the batteries !
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Minning the materials is pretty terrible as well, not to mention where the electricity comes from to charge it...
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Old 04-23-2019, 08:08 PM   #17
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Re: 2020 Hi-Po 4 cyl?

Sad part is this new Hi-po 4cyl will likely cost more than a PP1 Gt.
No brainier there, coyote engine tick, and the glass-jaw shift forks in the mt-82 not withstanding

Do a real 400hp version and call it SVO.....


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