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Old 01-30-2018, 08:32 PM   #1
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1st '69 Mach1 SJC 4.30 ordered found

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Old 01-31-2018, 06:41 AM   #2
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Re: 1st '69 Mach1 SJC 4.30 ordered found

That is an awesome find, thanks for sharing.

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Old 01-31-2018, 09:48 AM   #3
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That is an awesome find, thanks for sharing.

Yeah and all this time it was like 2hrs from me.
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Really cool find. I've always said, there's no telling what lurks in old barns around this part of the country. There could be a gold mine sitting just down the road, and we'll never know it.

I grew up around old cars and restorations. My father has done many, from 1969 Camaros to mid-1980s Mustangs to old pickup trucks. My personal feeling is mixed on restorations like this. I've seen guys take cars that are practically ready to be scrapped and restore them, and in my mind those cars are NOT original and are not as valuable anymore. I think there's a certain threshold where you'd consider a car to be original vs. a clone of the original. This car, being in many pieces, having been hacked up, and missing the entire drivetrain....eh... I don't know. I don't know that I'd call it original when he's done.

Having said that, he definitely needs to restore it and I hope to see pictures of it online one day when it's done. Really cool piece of history right there!

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Really cool find. I've always said, there's no telling what lurks in old barns around this part of the country. There could be a gold mine sitting just down the road, and we'll never know it.

I grew up around old cars and restorations. My father has done many, from 1969 Camaros to mid-1980s Mustangs to old pickup trucks. My personal feeling is mixed on restorations like this. I've seen guys take cars that are practically ready to be scrapped and restore them, and in my mind those cars are NOT original and are not as valuable anymore. I think there's a certain threshold where you'd consider a car to be original vs. a clone of the original. This car, being in many pieces, having been hacked up, and missing the entire drivetrain....eh... I don't know. I don't know that I'd call it original when he's done.

Having said that, he definitely needs to restore it and I hope to see pictures of it online one day when it's done. Really cool piece of history right there!

For me if you can reuse most the original body, engine and tranny then you're fine calling it original as it's mostly there. When you have like barely anything + a block I question it myself.
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Re: 1st '69 Mach1 SJC 4.30 ordered found

It remind me of a comment about the two recently unearthed Bullitt cars. One is 90% original, the other is 90% not there. I certainly want to see both saved, with the one car untouched from as it is now, and the other saved from a permanent demise with as correct parts as possible.

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It remind me of a comment about the two recently unearthed Bullitt cars. One is 90% original, the other is 90% not there. I certainly want to see both saved, with the one car untouched from as it is now, and the other saved from a permanent demise with as correct parts as possible.

The Hero car is being kept as original as possible. The Mexico car is being restored to I believe period/movie correct.
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Yeah, the hero car from Bullitt, sold to a private owner and then daily driven and beaten on with a family daily for years. This very first Mach 1, discovered in Pennsylvania in a hundred pieces with hacked up panels and no drivetrain. The first two Pontiac Firebirds ever built, found in a barn in Connecticut in pieces with the engines out of them. You hear stories like this and think how could this happen? It just goes to show you how back in the 60s and 70s nobody knew that those cars would be worth the kind of money that they are today. My father has said many times, "If we'd known that, we'd have stocked barns full of them."
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Yeah, the hero car from Bullitt, sold to a private owner and then daily driven and beaten on with a family daily for years. This very first Mach 1, discovered in Pennsylvania in a hundred pieces with hacked up panels and no drivetrain. The first two Pontiac Firebirds ever built, found in a barn in Connecticut in pieces with the engines out of them. You hear stories like this and think how could this happen? It just goes to show you how back in the 60s and 70s nobody knew that those cars would be worth the kind of money that they are today. My father has said many times, "If we'd known that, we'd have stocked barns full of them."
Yeah my dad had a 70 SS El Camino, and a 69 Camaro SS/RS pace car. My grand father had a 1st year MOnte Carlo SS. Uncle had a 70(maybe it was a 71) Mach1. Lot of nice muscle went though my family. My aunt had a Camaro, I'm sure i'm forgetting a few other cars they had.
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Yeah and all this time it was like 2hrs from me.

About an hour and a half from me...Love to have found that...
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