Phenolic Intake Spacers Are Here - Page 2 - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

Roy · 02-21-2007, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DTMach1

What would be the benefit of running that spacer? I'm interested

I don’t know that there would be any benefit. It should keep the intake cooler and cooler air = more power.

8616v · 02-22-2007, 02:03 AM

I'd like to get one of the head to intake spacers if you sell them...

hawk · 02-22-2007, 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roy

I don’t know that there would be any benefit. It should keep the intake cooler and cooler air = more power.

Wouldn't the increased runner length move the power band down a little, too?

8616v · 02-22-2007, 04:50 AM

you're talking about less then a 1/4" probably...

VoodooMACH · 02-22-2007, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawkpilot

Wouldn't the increased runner length move the power band down a little, too?

eek... who would want that?

hawk · 02-22-2007, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8616v

you're talking about less then a 1/4" probably...

I said "a little" lol

djlethalwang · 02-26-2007, 04:47 AM

That spacer looks pretty sweet. I'm in the market for getting an intake spacer now, so definitely keep us updated as to when these become available. I'll buy one as soon as you can start sending them out. :THUMBSUP:

Roy · 02-26-2007, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djlethalwang

That spacer looks pretty sweet. I'm in the market for getting an intake spacer now, so definitely keep us updated as to when these become available. I'll buy one as soon as you can start sending them out. :THUMBSUP:

There ready to ship now. PM me for the details.

FordMan · 02-26-2007, 08:27 AM

Roy,

Do you know offhand how much longer bolts I'll need for the TB to intake spacer? Thanks.

Angus66 · 02-26-2007, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawkpilot

Wouldn't the increased runner length move the power band down a little, too?

The runner length doesn't change when adding an intake lid spacer.

When you install an upper/lower intake spacer, the upper plenum volume increases...

hawk · 02-26-2007, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angus66

The runner length doesn't change when adding an intake lid spacer.

When you install an upper/lower intake spacer, the upper plenum volume increases...

I was referring to his intake spacer - between the intake and heads.

http://www.mach1registry.org/forums/...0&d=1172065890

Roy · 02-26-2007, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawkpilot

I was referring to his intake spacer - between the intake and heads.

http://www.mach1registry.org/forums/...0&d=1172065890

That spacer was for a plate nitrous system I was working on.

Roy · 02-26-2007, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FordMan

Roy,

Do you know offhand how much longer bolts I'll need for the TB to intake spacer? Thanks.

These bolts are 40mm. 35mm would work fine. Here's some pic's of the phenolic stuff.

wdwrdcrzr · 02-26-2007, 08:18 PM

This sounds like a good idea but I dont think there will be any benefits over the aluminum spacers.The Idea behind a phenolic type spacer on carbureted car was to prevent the carb from absorbing heat from the intake manifold,keeping the fuel cool.On our cars the fuel rails are attached to the intake runners negating this affect IMO.

Awd This · 02-26-2007, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdwrdcrzr

This sounds like a good idea but I dont think there will be any benefits over the aluminum spacers.The Idea behind a phenolic type spacer on carbureted car was to prevent the carb from absorbing heat from the intake manifold,keeping the fuel cool.On our cars the fuel rails are attached to the intake runners negating this affect IMO.

May not have as much as a affect, but IMO the more of the intake cooler the better. Some one should put a thermometer on the upper after 20 min of driving before the intall and then do the same after the install.

Stuff looks awesome as always roy

Roy · 02-26-2007, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdwrdcrzr

This sounds like a good idea but I dont think there will be any benefits over the aluminum spacers.The Idea behind a phenolic type spacer on carbureted car was to prevent the carb from absorbing heat from the intake manifold,keeping the fuel cool.On our cars the fuel rails are attached to the intake runners negating this affect IMO.

Their also used a lot between the upper and lower on the EFI 5.0L push rod motors. If there’s a benefit there this will be similar. I think it would help more on super charged motors where the inlet temps are higher.

Angus66 · 02-26-2007, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawkpilot

I was referring to his intake spacer - between the intake and heads.

http://www.mach1registry.org/forums/...0&d=1172065890

Gotcha...

Marks04DSG · 02-26-2007, 11:42 PM

If a/f is fine now, how much of a possibility is there of going lean after adding an intake spacer?

03DSG · 03-01-2007, 10:19 PM

Thanks for the spacer Roy! I noticed while installing it tonight that the phenolic spacer is close to 9mm tall while the php spacer is 6mm tall. I wonder how much the extra 3mm height will help along with any cooling effect it might have?

Eric W

Roy · 03-02-2007, 07:25 AM

I guess you could say it’s a 1/2'' spacer if you include the additional gasket.

Jagplay · 03-03-2007, 08:23 PM

****, how did I miss this tread. I just ordered my spacer from ya, wish I would have seen this. You should post this down in the sale items too!

FordMan · 03-04-2007, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Roy

I'm sending one out to Fordman to try. My cars put away for the winter. If he give's a thumbs up I'll sell some. They won’t be very expensive.

Roy,

Received the TB spacer. I'll be working out of town of and on for the next three weeks but I'll report back on the results as soon as it's installed. Thanks again.

Roy · 03-04-2007, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FordMan

Roy,

Received the TB spacer. I'll be working out of town of and on for the next three weeks but I'll report back on the results as soon as it's installed. Thanks again.

I put one on my car and it looks like you will have to bend the throttle cable bracket slightly. The throttle cable is long enough but the cruse control cable is about 1/8'' short.

FordMan · 03-04-2007, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roy

I put one on my car and it looks like you will have to bend the throttle cable bracket slightly. The throttle cable is long enough but the cruse control cable is about 1/8'' short.

OK, that's easy enough

03DSG · 03-04-2007, 04:55 PM

Took the car out this morning and got on the hwy for a bit to test the spacer. I really didn't notice any more low end tq over the php spacer but it did feel a bit better on the hwy and in the upper rpms. I pulled in my garage and popped the hood and found the upper lid and tb cold to the touch. Ps. for any one doing this they might want to lower the shaker bracket a bit as this spacer tends to be a bit higher than the php spacer.

Eric W

02-22-2007, 02:03 AM	#27
8616v Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: omaha NE Posts: 804	Re: Phenolic Intake Spacers Are Here I'd like to get one of the head to intake spacers if you sell them... __________________ '86 Scirocco 16v '03 20AE '03 Mach 1 Azure Blue ...went IRS...never looked back... Born: 03/26/2003 Bought: 09/07/2005

02-22-2007, 04:50 AM	#29
8616v Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: omaha NE Posts: 804	Re: Phenolic Intake Spacers Are Here you're talking about less then a 1/4" probably... __________________ '86 Scirocco 16v '03 20AE '03 Mach 1 Azure Blue ...went IRS...never looked back... Born: 03/26/2003 Bought: 09/07/2005

02-26-2007, 04:47 AM	#32
djlethalwang Ridin' Dirty Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Amarillo, TX Posts: 62	Re: Phenolic Intake Spacers Are Here That spacer looks pretty sweet. I'm in the market for getting an intake spacer now, so definitely keep us updated as to when these become available. I'll buy one as soon as you can start sending them out. :THUMBSUP: __________________ Best ET(@TX Motorplex): 13.32 @ 107.1MPH -- 2.14 short time (hot lap) Borla Stingers Bassani X Aluminum D/S MGW Shifter K&N Cold Air 85mm MAF Roy's Intake Spacer

02-26-2007, 08:27 AM	#34
FordMan I Am Cornholio!!! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 3,745	Re: Phenolic Intake Spacers Are Here Roy, Do you know offhand how much longer bolts I'll need for the TB to intake spacer? Thanks. __________________ Black 03 5spd w/ IUP Born on 02/25/2003 (thanks Donna) Left home and moved onward 12/19/22

02-26-2007, 08:18 PM	#39
wdwrdcrzr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Detroit Posts: 1,476	Re: Phenolic Intake Spacers Are Here This sounds like a good idea but I dont think there will be any benefits over the aluminum spacers.The Idea behind a phenolic type spacer on carbureted car was to prevent the carb from absorbing heat from the intake manifold,keeping the fuel cool.On our cars the fuel rails are attached to the intake runners negating this affect IMO. __________________ US-10 13.2 bone stock

02-26-2007, 11:42 PM	#43
Marks04DSG DSG forme Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Woodbridge, Va Posts: 1,817	Re: Phenolic Intake Spacers Are Here If a/f is fine now, how much of a possibility is there of going lean after adding an intake spacer? __________________ 2004 DSG Auto Mach1-TRADED IN FOR 06 auto GT - C&L racer intake/VMP tune, imco pro axelback with more to come

03-01-2007, 10:19 PM	#44
03DSG Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gulf Coast, Swiming in a sea of................ Posts: 133	Re: Phenolic Intake Spacers Are Here Thanks for the spacer Roy! I noticed while installing it tonight that the phenolic spacer is close to 9mm tall while the php spacer is 6mm tall. I wonder how much the extra 3mm height will help along with any cooling effect it might have? Eric W __________________ Comp 106060s, Tmhutch PSR, ARH 1-3/4"Longtubes & 3" X, Magnaflow cat back, Lightning MAF, 39lb injectors, "R" Pulley's, ATI Balancer, Jlt Intake, Roy's 3/8" Phenolic spacer, Aluminum Drive shaft, Fidanza Flywheel, Cobra clutch, 4:10's, SCT-Murillo tune, FTB drag rotors, Enkei RPF1 wheels, and lots of suspension work.

03-02-2007, 07:25 AM	#45
Roy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: S.E. Mich. Posts: 3,446	Re: Phenolic Intake Spacers Are Here I guess you could say it’s a 1/2'' spacer if you include the additional gasket.

03-03-2007, 08:23 PM	#46
Jagplay Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 297	Re: Phenolic Intake Spacers Are Here ****, how did I miss this tread. I just ordered my spacer from ya, wish I would have seen this. You should post this down in the sale items too!

03-04-2007, 04:55 PM	#50
03DSG Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gulf Coast, Swiming in a sea of................ Posts: 133	Re: Phenolic Intake Spacers Are Here Took the car out this morning and got on the hwy for a bit to test the spacer. I really didn't notice any more low end tq over the php spacer but it did feel a bit better on the hwy and in the upper rpms. I pulled in my garage and popped the hood and found the upper lid and tb cold to the touch. Ps. for any one doing this they might want to lower the shaker bracket a bit as this spacer tends to be a bit higher than the php spacer. Eric W __________________ Comp 106060s, Tmhutch PSR, ARH 1-3/4"Longtubes & 3" X, Magnaflow cat back, Lightning MAF, 39lb injectors, "R" Pulley's, ATI Balancer, Jlt Intake, Roy's 3/8" Phenolic spacer, Aluminum Drive shaft, Fidanza Flywheel, Cobra clutch, 4:10's, SCT-Murillo tune, FTB drag rotors, Enkei RPF1 wheels, and lots of suspension work.

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