NASCAR thread

[Big Ron]

Only 87 more days till the 2011 Daytona 500 (2/20/2011) and......the drive for six!







Big Ron

[japan4racing]

well I guess we can all start making predictions for next year...

I am really hoping its a dominating year for ford...namely Carl Edwards! David Ragan was really starting to get better hopefully he can start the year with a win as well. As much as I dont wanna see JJ win another one (I dont hate him or dislike him just want to see other talent win) Its a very real possibility.

[G]

I think some rule changes could really shake things up next year. Perhaps

No team rules
No pit crew swaps
No top 35 lock in BS
No freaking chase
Ditch the owner championships in all divisions
Limit teams to 2 cars MAX and give special perks to single car operators
Have at least 2 races on dirt each season

If the chase must stay use different tracks, but I really hate the chase format.

[birdman941]

Ban any brand that is not American.

[japan4racing]

Originally Posted by G

I think some rule changes could really shake things up next year. Perhaps

No team rules
No pit crew swaps
No top 35 lock in BS
No freaking chase
Ditch the owner championships in all divisions
Limit teams to 2 cars MAX and give special perks to single car operators
Have at least 2 races on dirt each season

If the chase must stay use different tracks, but I really hate the chase format.

If they would listen to you nascar would be interesting again

[bris09]

Originally Posted by birdman941

Ban any brand that is not American.

So Ford and Chevy huh?

[japan4racing]

Originally Posted by bris09

So Ford and Chevy huh?

Its 2006 data published in 2007. Its the fastest thing I could find. Good info though. I was surprised at how many American made vehicles are still made here. I have been under the impression for years that if you wanted an American made vehicle you needed to buy a Toyota or Nissan. Its quite the opposite in most cases. Im sure some of these numbers have changed but Im also sure none of them have changed drastically enough to say that you need to buy an import to get and American made vehicle. Im gonna look more into this. Hey, at least we know our machs were made in America!

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/...nt-chart_N.htm

[bris09]

Ford and GM are the only American car companies. Chrysler is owned by Fiat. I guess they could run Mercury, Lincoln, Buick, or Cadillac.

[Larry Warcup]

Originally Posted by G

I think some rule changes could really shake things up next year. Perhaps

No team rules
No pit crew swaps
No top 35 lock in BS
No freaking chase
Ditch the owner championships in all divisions
Limit teams to 2 cars MAX and give special perks to single car operators
Have at least 2 races on dirt each season

If the chase must stay use different tracks, but I really hate the chase format.

I totally agree! Especially, NO TOP 35 LOCK IN...what a bunch of crap!
If you're fast enough for the 'show', you're in! The slowest cars go home!

And I think that the last race of the year should be at a road course
...pick one...Watkins Glen, Laguna Seca...whatever!

And no more Sprint Cup guys racin' in the Nationwide Series
...leave that series to the guys & gals that want to learn & move up...Trucks, okay

[japan4racing]

Originally Posted by bris09

Ford and GM are the only American car companies. Chrysler is owned by Fiat. I guess they could run Mercury, Lincoln, Buick, or Cadillac.

well technically gm is owned by china...they loaned us the money to bail them out

[bris09]

Originally Posted by japan4racing

well technically gm is owned by china...they loaned us the money to bail them out

Nah, that was a loan.

[japan4racing]

Originally Posted by bris09

Nah, that was a loan.

yea, the govt loaned them the money. where do you think the govt got the money?

[falcongtho3]

Originally Posted by Big Ron

Only 87 more days till the 2011 Daytona 500 (2/20/2011) and......the slum for six!

Fixed...

[G]

Originally Posted by Larry Warcup

I totally agree! Especially, NO TOP 35 LOCK IN...what a bunch of crap! .................................................. ....



And no more Sprint Cup guys racin' in the Nationwide Series
...leave that series to the guys & gals that want to learn & move up...Trucks, okay

I thought about that but think it helps having the more experienced Cup drivers available as mentors and to help sell tickets. I would like to see them limited to 5 races in any of the top divisions (Cup, NW, or Trucks) that they are not running for a championship in. That would work both up and down. If a cup guy wants to be involved in NW let him own a team (max of 2 cars) and develop new talent. That's not just drivers but crew as well. He could pick 5 races to drive in and then either park the car or put in a NW driver. If you take away the owner points then you add some stability for the drivers. The owner then has to select, develop, and support his driver to win a championship. There should be provisions for retaining driver points if it's beyond the control of both parties, like the medical issue with Vickers.

If you like racing more like it was in the early days, the modified series is awesome. It could be I'm a bit prejudiced by my past but modifieds are just a blast to watch. I have memories I cherish from the mid 60s to the early 70s that are burned into my mind. My dad was involved in that division as a driver, owner, and builder from the late 40s until the 70s. He was never big time but was a steady driver that took me to every event he could. It messed me up for life.

[birdman941]

Originally Posted by bris09

So Ford and Chevy huh?

Pretty much.
We can Grandfather in Mopar, but that's it.
There should be a tourist trap at the tracks.
A port-o-pottie conveniently placed over the toiletta display,..............
SPLAT !!!!

[falcongtho3]

I there has been talk of late of allowing Cup drivers to race any amount of N'Wide races, but not be eligible for the championship. Not a bad idea, maybe a seperate trophy got those who do chose to participate. I thing that a racer wants to race at any opportunity, and whether its the truck series of N'Wide series it's an additional chance to get behind the wheel of a race car and compete.

[birdman941]

Good point, but it would be cheaper for nascar to give trophies
to people in the stands at truck races.
100,000 fans disguised as empty seats.
NWS is getting to be the same.

[G]

Originally Posted by falcongtho3

I there has been talk of late of allowing Cup drivers to race any amount of N'Wide races, but not be eligible for the championship. Not a bad idea, maybe a seperate trophy got those who do chose to participate. I thing that a racer wants to race at any opportunity, and whether its the truck series of N'Wide series it's an additional chance to get behind the wheel of a race car and compete.

Let them go back to the way it was. The cup drivers used to drop in at local tracks and drive LMS, modifieds, IMCA, etc...

They gave the fans a thrill, picked up some show money, and normally put on a good show. Many times they would drive local cars. I remember having Petty, Pearson, and Donnie Allison show at our home track around 1969. They drove mid pack LMS cars when the seats were given up by the car owners. They finished 1st, 2nd, and 4th in those "filler" cars. Allison was actually leading the closing laps but when he was challenged by Pearson it gave Petty a chance to pass them both. What an exciting night. I was roughly 10 then and standing on the tire rack of our trailer when my Dad told me to get his helmet out of the truck. I handed to David Pearson who was about to take my dad's modified around some in practice.

It was a different time. I remember the drivers above and some of the locals having hot dogs, bologna burgers, watermelon, deviled eggs, RC cola, and crackers on our tailgate and open trailer. That was the short track life back then. It was the time of my life and I sure wish I had a digital camera back then.

[02mach1]

Iam N'wide guy now until 2012 because Ford useing Ford Mustang GTs

[bris09]

Originally Posted by G

Let them go back to the way it was. The cup drivers used to drop in at local tracks and drive LMS, modifieds, IMCA, etc...

They gave the fans a thrill, picked up some show money, and normally put on a good show. Many times they would drive local cars. I remember having Petty, Pearson, and Donnie Allison show at our home track around 1969. They drove mid pack LMS cars when the seats were given up by the car owners. They finished 1st, 2nd, and 4th in those "filler" cars. Allison was actually leading the closing laps but when he was challenged by Pearson it gave Petty a chance to pass them both. What an exciting night. I was roughly 10 then and standing on the tire rack of our trailer when my Dad told me to get his helmet out of the truck. I handed to David Pearson who was about to take my dad's modified around some in practice.

It was a different time. I remember the drivers above and some of the locals having hot dogs, bologna burgers, watermelon, deviled eggs, RC cola, and crackers on our tailgate and open trailer. That was the short track life back then. It was the time of my life and I sure wish I had a digital camera back then.

Kasey Kahne and Kyle Busch do an annual event at Williams Grove Speedway. Kasey borrows a 410 Sprint car and Kyle a Super Late Model. Last year the driver I used to help (before taking current job) beat Kyle. This year Kyle used one of Jason's cars. The deal is they pay a fee to use the car and pay to repair any damage done to the car.

I'm with ya about being more of a fan to the local track, all of ours are dirt. Must better racing. You got 20-25 laps to get to the front and you have to live with the pre-race setup.

[birdman941]

Not a fan of either one.

[G]

Originally Posted by bris09

Kasey Kahne and Kyle Busch do an annual event at Williams Grove Speedway. Kasey borrows a 410 Sprint car and Kyle a Super Late Model. Last year the driver I used to help (before taking current job) beat Kyle. This year Kyle used one of Jason's cars. The deal is they pay a fee to use the car and pay to repair any damage done to the car.

I'm with ya about being more of a fan to the local track, all of ours are dirt. Must better racing. You got 20-25 laps to get to the front and you have to live with the pre-race setup.

Yep that's he kind of stuff I'm talking about.

Too bad cheby is not running Camaro stickers.

[falcongtho3]

An interesting article on Autoweeks website answers soem of my questions about the chase, and how it's impacted the points winners.
http://www.autoweek.com/article/2010...CING/101129936

[Con's Mach1]

Oh, I just remembered, the season is over...Thank goodness! I guess I'll look forward to next season. Maybe. The driver I really don't care for, but starting to like just a little, is the BEST and most EXCITING driver out there. That's not good. I'm still gonna say gooo Carl anyway.

[02mach1]

Next year going be Carl's year.