Thoughts on 2018 Ford Mustang???

[SouthKak_Mach1]

I saw a few pictures of the new 2018 Ford Mustang today, and I didn't really like the new headlights, rear wing (performance package), or lower portion of the front fascia. I do like the rest of the refreshed Mustang though. No power updates however . My guess would be around 460 HP/425 TQ from revised Coyote 5.0L. I wonder if they did anything to shave off a few pounds of weight?

[Mach828]

Overall I like it, but the front end does look a little droopy.

The direct injection will take away from the ease of slapping a blower on them. But I predict the NA mods paired with the 10 speed auto will make for some really impressive NA track times. I'd like to do an NA build with one.

[DSG2003Mach1]

Id like to see one in person, i have mixed feelings on the front end from the pictures, I like the rear.

Itll be interesting to see what happens with modding them being that they have both direct injection and traditional fuel injection (which I think is probably largely to solve the issue of carbon buildup on the back of the valves)

with all the ecoboost stuff and direct injection I guess theyll have no choice but to start making high performance versions if the injectors and pumps but it seems like those would be expensive as hell

[01yellerCobra]

Originally Posted by DSG2003Mach1

with all the ecoboost stuff and direct injection I guess theyll have no choice but to start making high performance versions if the injectors and pumps but it seems like those would be expensive as hell

Livernois released an upgraded high pressure fuel pump for the 3.5. It's the bargain price of $1600.

[Mach828]

Oh wow, I didn't realize that it was direct injection and intake manifold port injection. That is awesome.

I saw that pump as well, for that money you can buy an auxiliary fuel system and have money left over. I saw a pretty slick throttle body spacer system with dual injectors for the focus ST. Tempted to get it so I can run pure e85.

[ab_mach1]

I didn't like the front end changes at first, but I'm liking it more and more as I see it in different colors. Even though I liked the 3015-17, I've always thought the front seemed so blunt, like it was a sliced bread loaf lol.


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[73mach03]

Really liking the rear with the quad exhaust and spoiler. Definitely has me at least "thinking" about a new Mustang in the near future. First time that has happened in a while.

The exhaust option seems like a great idea.

[fiveliter]

Exterior changes are very minor and to the untrained eye, there seems to be very little difference from the 15-17 to 18. Not a fan of the new all-digital "dog-bone" dash either. New colors are interesting as are the new wheel /tire choices. Glad to see the 6 cylinder dropped from the lineup. It really served no purpose. I give Ford an "A" for effort to try an keep the Mustang fresh. I would like to see the Ecoboost making more horsepower.

[ab_mach1]

I agree ^ Seems like most who have really disliked the new look, didn't really care for the S550 styling in the first place.

[DSG2003Mach1]

seeing pictures in other colors it looks better than I thought it would, I'll give it that.

I love the look of the GT350 version with the much more angular nose, make it much more aggressive looking. The rounded front is to satisfy euro pedestrian crash standards

[ab_mach1]

Originally Posted by DSG2003Mach1

seeing pictures in other colors it looks better than I thought it would, I'll give it that.

I love the look of the GT350 version with the much more angular nose, make it much more aggressive looking. The rounded front is to satisfy euro pedestrian crash standards

Yeah, the GT350 changes really made the S550 look awesome. I wondered about that with the S550 in the front. I'm assuming they don't sell GT350's overseas..?

[DSG2003Mach1]

Originally Posted by eruza

Yeah, the GT350 changes really made the S550 look awesome. I wondered about that with the S550 in the front. I'm assuming they don't sell GT350's overseas..?

not directly anyway it appears so no need to comply with the standard. The GT350 front end is more what I was hoping for all along. Speaking of the GT350, kind sucks to see a bunch of tech from those cars now on the 18GTs

I mean, you have to expect it trickle down but that was quick, especially when they just announced another year of production for it

[69GT]

I'm guessing 460 HP with the active exhaust, 12:1 compression and direct injection. Still gonna be slower than the Camaro because it's a dancing hippo.

I threw my Mach 1 on the scales and it weighed 3420 with almost full tank of gas. THAT seems heavy to me. 3800 LBS+ on the new GTs is crazy.

[SouthKak_Mach1]

Originally Posted by 69GT

I'm guessing 460 HP with the active exhaust, 12:1 compression and direct injection. Still gonna be slower than the Camaro because it's a dancing hippo.

I threw my Mach 1 on the scales and it weighed 3420 with almost full tank of gas. THAT seems heavy to me. 3800 LBS+ on the new GTs is crazy.

Yeah, I noticed they never mentioned anything about weight reduction...smh. Probably increased in weight a little with the new tech. I think the new Mustang could at least match the Camaro in performance with the new engine and suspension upgrades. Think Ford will be shaving off some weight for the S650 mustang in 2020. I'm hoping that they would resurrect the Mach 1 before then with a slightly different front fascia and hood to separate it from the GT aesthetically. A 5.2L Voodoo engine with a cross plane crank wouldn't hurt either.

Saw some pics of an Ingot Silver '18 convertible Mustang today and it actually looks better than the coupe with the new front fascia. Not sure if they went with a soft top or hard top though. Hard top would look better when it's up, but soft top would save some trunk space.

[69GT]

I was guessing the next GT500 will have a cross plane crank 5.2 V8 with turbos or a supercharger.

[SouthKak_Mach1]

Originally Posted by 69GT

I was guessing the next GT500 will have a cross plane crank 5.2 V8 with turbos or a supercharger.

Yeah, that's probably more likely that Ford will drop a turbo'd 5.2L V8 (cross plane crank) into GT500 to compete with Camaro ZL1 and new Challenger Demon. Hoping that Mach 1 will receive a naturally aspirated 5.2L V8 (cross plane crank) before everything is a hybrid or ecoboosted.

[69GT]

Originally Posted by SouthKak_Mach1

Yeah, that's probably more likely that Ford will drop a turbo'd 5.2L V8 (cross plane crank) into GT500 to compete with Camaro ZL1 and new Challenger Demon. Hoping that Mach 1 will receive a naturally aspirated 5.2L V8 (cross plane crank) before everything is a hybrid or ecoboosted.

Yeah. A good ole' Mach 1 slotted in below the GT350 and above the GT. Naturally aspirated 5.2 cross plane making 480 or so HP and a nice 440 LBS/FT. But I don't think Ford has a Mach 1 in their sights since they got the Shelby name on their top performance stuff Plus if the new GT hits 460 HP with it's 5.0 I think there will be no room for it's power level in the range.

[Mustanger2]

I like it just fine but think this Roush front end nails it for me!

[SouthKak_Mach1]

Originally Posted by 69GT

Yeah. A good ole' Mach 1 slotted in below the GT350 and above the GT. Naturally aspirated 5.2 cross plane making 480 or so HP and a nice 440 LBS/FT. But I don't think Ford has a Mach 1 in their sights since they got the Shelby name on their top performance stuff Plus if the new GT hits 460 HP with it's 5.0 I think there will be no room for it's power level in the range.

I would love it if Ford did this

GT500 = 725 hp (EcoBoost 5.2L V8 cross plane crank)
GT350 = 540 hp (with expected power bump in 2018)
Mach 1 = 500 hp (with similar TQ #'s to HP from N/A 5.2L cross plane crank)
GT = 470 hp
EcoBoost = 350 hp

Mach 1 would be competitors with Dodge Challenger R/T Scat Pack

[SouthKak_Mach1]

Originally Posted by Mustanger2

I like it just fine but think this Roush front end nails it for me!

My favorite body kit for the S550 Mustang. I hope they can work some magic with the refreshed 2018 Mustang.

[SchwermoRacing]

Originally Posted by SouthKak_Mach1

Yeah, that's probably more likely that Ford will drop a turbo'd 5.2L V8 (cross plane crank) into GT500 to compete with Camaro ZL1 and new Challenger Demon. Hoping that Mach 1 will receive a naturally aspirated 5.2L V8 (cross plane crank) before everything is a hybrid or ecoboosted.

Ford announced a while ago the 5.2 was GT350 only and they had no plans to use it in any other cars. There was also a blip where Ford accidently had a page for a new GT500 up and it listed a 5.8L still.

I think it is more likely the new GT500 will have a 5.8 based on the current 5.0, and if there is a new Mach1 it will likely be like the BOSS and have a tweaked 5.0, but I'd prefer an N/A 5.8.

[SouthKak_Mach1]

Originally Posted by SchwermoRacing

Ford announced a while ago the 5.2 was GT350 only and they had no plans to use it in any other cars. There was also a blip where Ford accidently had a page for a new GT500 up and it listed a 5.8L still.

I think it is more likely the new GT500 will have a 5.8 based on the current 5.0, and if there is a new Mach1 it will likely be like the BOSS and have a tweaked 5.0, but I'd prefer an N/A 5.8.

Ford said that the Voodoo 5.2L V8 w/ flat plane crank would be GT350 only, but they didn't say that about the the 5.2L w/ cross plane crank that they currently have. I highly doubt that the 5.8L V8 will be making a return with CAFE regulations and with the way Ford has been pushing forced induction (EcoBoost) engines. If the GT500 makes its return it will most likely be a boosted 5.0L or 5.2L V8 engine.

[SouthKak_Mach1]

http://performance.ford.com/enthusia...te-engine.html

I could think of a lot of things they could do with this engine

[69GT]

Originally Posted by SouthKak_Mach1

Ford said that the Voodoo 5.2L V8 w/ flat plane crank would be GT350 only, but they didn't say that about the the 5.2L w/ cross plane crank that they currently have. I highly doubt that the 5.8L V8 will be making a return with CAFE regulations and with the way Ford has been pushing forced induction (EcoBoost) engines. If the GT500 makes its return it will most likely be a boosted 5.0L or 5.2L V8 engine.

Not a huge fan of Ford using the Shelby name any more but wouldn't it be weird to have a GT500 with a smaller engine than the GT350?

[falcongtho3]

Well, if rumor proves to be true, then a "Demon slayer" may be on the horizon, and I doubt that gas guzzler tax is a worry, it'll be part of the ticket to ride.