Couple Of Questions - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

rider90 · 05-29-2005, 03:07 PM

Hey guys, I have an 04 Marauder so we share the same engine and recently I've been getting involved and interested into what you fellas are doing to them. I know what the Marauder guys are doing, basically they all just go forced induction but I don't have that much $$$ so one step at a time N/A bolt ons are what I've been doing.

1) Why do you guys post specs of around 260 RWHP when are Marauders are doing around 245 RWHP? What did FoMoCo change?

2) I saw a picture of a breather on the passenger side valve cover, does that help anything specific?

So far I've done the K&N FIPK, 4.10 Gears, Diablosport Predator, and 255/55/18 KDW2 Rears to my MM. Is there a simple mod I missed below $400 besides U/D pullies and an intake spacer?

Bill Hamilton · 05-29-2005, 03:17 PM

The 245 vs 260 hp average is probably the difference in exhaust and maybe the T.C. I believe the motors are basically the same as well as the Lincoln Aviator motor also.

San Pedro Mach · 05-29-2005, 03:25 PM

Are the Mach's exhaust cams the same as the Merc's engine?

rider90 · 05-29-2005, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by San Pedro Mach

Are the Mach's exhaust cams the same as the Merc's engine?

I've heard our cams described as "Truck Cams" and our T/C from the factory is around 2,200 per a ford tech. Atleast thats what I heard.

San Pedro Mach · 05-29-2005, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rider90

I've heard our cams described as "Truck Cams" and our T/C from the factory is around 2,200 per a ford tech. Atleast thats what I heard.

I have read that the Mach's DOHC uses the Navigator's intake cam and a new & unique exhaust cam. I would imagine that your Merc's engine would be the same, but I wasn't sure.

rider90 · 05-29-2005, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by San Pedro Mach

I have read that the Mach's DOHC uses the Navigator's intake cam and a new & unique exhaust cam. I would imagine that your Merc's engine would be the same, but I wasn't sure.

I don't know why FoMoCo would go out of their way to detune a perfectly good engine just because it is going in a larger vehicle?

Weird...

San Pedro Mach · 05-29-2005, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rider90

I don't know why FoMoCo would go out of their way to detune a perfectly good engine just because it is going in a larger vehicle?

Weird...

Who knows...

:OFFTOPIC:
Rider90, do you have any pics of your car you can post? We have some Mercury fans in here (there was a thread about a new Cougar a week or so ago) that might like to see our motor's other skin.

rider90 · 05-29-2005, 03:55 PM

I did some reserch on the breathers - looks like I'll get an Oil Seperator instead. Thanks fellas

San Pedro Mach · 05-29-2005, 03:57 PM

Sweet!

2k4mach · 05-29-2005, 05:19 PM

You could always do an electric water pump, quite a few guys on here have gone to them with decent gains

rider90 · 05-29-2005, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 2k4mach

You could always do an electric water pump, quite a few guys on here have gone to them with decent gains

Yeah that is an idea on the list, but I'm getting mixed reviews about the U/D pullys

rhite95 · 05-31-2005, 09:11 PM

weight??????????????????? maybe

paul · 06-25-2005, 04:58 PM

The marauder is dynoing lower becasue you are having to turn those big 18 inch back wheels. This translates into more drag. Think of the difference between an axle dyno(rarely used) and a wheel dyno. The axle dyno will always read higher because the engine is not having to spin the wheels.
Further info that supports my theory are the quarter mile times for the new naturally aspirated Saleen GT. Even though it has the usual engine mods and is rated at 325hp it is still slower in the 1/4 mile than a stock gt. 13.7 vs 13.5
Guess what? it has huge 20 inch rear wheels and bigger brakes which put more drag on the motor.

paul

Screaming04 · 06-25-2005, 05:10 PM

Not sure if I'm stating the obvious but are you comparing rwhp auto trans vs. auto trans?

05-29-2005, 03:07 PM	#1
rider90 Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 34	Couple Of Questions Hey guys, I have an 04 Marauder so we share the same engine and recently I've been getting involved and interested into what you fellas are doing to them. I know what the Marauder guys are doing, basically they all just go forced induction but I don't have that much $$$ so one step at a time N/A bolt ons are what I've been doing. 1) Why do you guys post specs of around 260 RWHP when are Marauders are doing around 245 RWHP? What did FoMoCo change? 2) I saw a picture of a breather on the passenger side valve cover, does that help anything specific? So far I've done the K&N FIPK, 4.10 Gears, Diablosport Predator, and 255/55/18 KDW2 Rears to my MM. Is there a simple mod I missed below $400 besides U/D pullies and an intake spacer?

05-29-2005, 03:17 PM	#2
Bill Hamilton Mustang owner since 1970 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Charleston,SC Posts: 6,243	Re: Couple Of Questions The 245 vs 260 hp average is probably the difference in exhaust and maybe the T.C. I believe the motors are basically the same as well as the Lincoln Aviator motor also. __________________ Bill SUPPORTING MEMBER USAF Retired My 1970 Mach 2003 Ford Mustang Mach I---Black w/5-speed --- gone but not forgotten 2011 Shelby GT-500 --- Ingot Silver Metallic and 6-speed (Sold and Now Terrorizing the residents of New Zealand) 1970 Ford Mustang Mach 1---White w/351C-4v Shaker Hood scoop and T-5 tranny 2014 Shelby GT-500 --- White/red stripes and 6-speed 2019 Mustang Convertible Premium Package w/automatic ___________________

05-29-2005, 03:25 PM	#3
San Pedro Mach Resident Subaruista Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Port Of L.A. Posts: 5,424	Re: Couple Of Questions Are the Mach's exhaust cams the same as the Merc's engine?

05-29-2005, 03:55 PM	#8
rider90 Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 34	Re: Couple Of Questions I did some reserch on the breathers - looks like I'll get an Oil Seperator instead. Thanks fellas __________________ 2004 Mercury Marauder.. S/C

05-29-2005, 03:57 PM	#9
San Pedro Mach Resident Subaruista Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Port Of L.A. Posts: 5,424	Re: Couple Of Questions Sweet!

05-29-2005, 05:19 PM	#10
2k4mach LuLz Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cedar Park, TX Posts: 19,294	Re: Couple Of Questions You could always do an electric water pump, quite a few guys on here have gone to them with decent gains __________________ 11 Sterling gray GT500 coupe 08 Silver Z06 1058rwhp/1073rwt @ 15psi 14 Silver Q50S Vortech blown 04 DSG Mach 1 (stolen) 03 OW Mach 1 (sitting in a field rotting away)

05-31-2005, 09:11 PM	#12
rhite95 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: FL Posts: 1,951	Re: Couple Of Questions weight??????????????????? maybe

06-25-2005, 04:58 PM	#13
paul Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: paducah Posts: 4	Re: Couple Of Questions The marauder is dynoing lower becasue you are having to turn those big 18 inch back wheels. This translates into more drag. Think of the difference between an axle dyno(rarely used) and a wheel dyno. The axle dyno will always read higher because the engine is not having to spin the wheels. Further info that supports my theory are the quarter mile times for the new naturally aspirated Saleen GT. Even though it has the usual engine mods and is rated at 325hp it is still slower in the 1/4 mile than a stock gt. 13.7 vs 13.5 Guess what? it has huge 20 inch rear wheels and bigger brakes which put more drag on the motor. paul

06-25-2005, 05:10 PM	#14
Screaming04 old timer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Langley, BC Posts: 1,889	Re: Couple Of Questions Not sure if I'm stating the obvious but are you comparing rwhp auto trans vs. auto trans? __________________ Sold: Screaming Yellow Intercooled 2.1 KB 5speed Mach 1 running a measly 8psi

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