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Old 01-04-2010, 09:07 PM   #201
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The hp was 320.19 at about 6k rpm. Torque was 323.68 at 4900rpm. Air fuel was steady at about 13. It was tuned with xcal 2 on a dynojet. No head or intake porting was done.
So it was tuned with SCT software on a dynojet dyno? If so, those numbers are extremely low. 340 would be more like it.
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Old 01-04-2010, 09:59 PM   #202
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So you think there is about 20hp left in it? What about the torque? Does that look about right? It was conservative tune for a street car not a track brawler as it has never seen a track. I doubt it matters much but it has heavy @ss 18inch rims and 315 tires. The stock wheel tire combo is obviously lighter on the car as I usually switch to the stockers for the winter and it feels a ton faster.
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Old 01-04-2010, 10:02 PM   #203
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So you think there is about 20hp left in it? What about the torque? Does that look about right? It was conservative tune for a street car not a track brawler as it has never seen a track.
There is defintely more power to be had. Were the cams degreed? A Mach engine with 96-98 intake cams is in the 340rwhp range and your FR cams have more duration and lift. A bone stock bolt on engine can make as much as yours is putting down.
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Old 01-05-2010, 12:49 PM   #204
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Re: Ford Racing Cams Installed - WOW!!!!!

There is no mention of a cold-air intake. Maybe some restrictions there, perhaps?
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Old 01-05-2010, 12:52 PM   #205
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Re: Ford Racing Cams Installed - WOW!!!!!

I would ask your builder what he degreed the cams at... Mine were installed at 109 centerline like were recommended and you see where my power is at.
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Old 01-05-2010, 01:00 PM   #206
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Re: Ford Racing Cams Installed - WOW!!!!!

I will check into the degree question and yes no CAI due to steeda strut tower brace, only a drop in K&N. I think he dynoed it with a stock gear setting also since he had to change it to my actual 410 while I was picking it up after the tune. Would that or the heavy 18" rims/tires be a factor to the numbers at all? There is a huge difference when I switch to the stock wheels/tires at least in SOP feel.
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Old 01-05-2010, 01:08 PM   #207
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There is no mention of a cold-air intake. Maybe some restrictions there, perhaps?
A K&N with the stock airbox will make very close to what a CAI will.
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Old 01-05-2010, 01:20 PM   #208
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I will check into the degree question and yes no CAI due to steeda strut tower brace, only a drop in K&N. I think he dynoed it with a stock gear setting also since he had to change it to my actual 410 while I was picking it up after the tune. Would that or the heavy 18" rims/tires be a factor to the numbers at all? There is a huge difference when I switch to the stock wheels/tires at least in SOP feel.
I dynoed mine with 18" wheels and I'm running 4.10 gears as well

I agree though, with my cobra r 17X10.5's with mickey thompsons on there it feels faster too, but thats mainly becuase I'm actually getting traction haha
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Old 01-05-2010, 03:42 PM   #209
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Yes, the car with heavier 18in rims will dyno lower than with lighter rims.

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Old 01-14-2010, 07:47 PM   #210
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Re: Ford Racing Cams Installed - WOW!!!!!

The cams were set up according to specs. A little bit of an excuse but the tuner said their dyno always shows lower numbers than most. I will get it retuned with the next mod. Yet another excuse to do something else to the car.
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Old 01-30-2010, 04:37 PM   #211
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Re: Ford Racing Cams Installed - WOW!!!!!

Been a while but here was the dyno sheet from the tune. Maybe it will give some insight.
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Old 04-03-2010, 11:51 AM   #212
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Been a while but here was the dyno sheet from the tune. Maybe it will give some insight.
I know this is old but im thinking about these for my daily driver with mods in my sig and wondering how it is just cruising around? Also how much did it cost you for install and tune if you dont mind me asking because CJ Pony Parts has the kit for 850 bucks thats complete with cams, vavles, springs, valve seals and followers
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Old 04-03-2010, 04:35 PM   #213
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Re: Ford Racing Cams Installed - WOW!!!!!

I ran these cams for about 30K miles in my daily driver. Their drivability is just like stock cams. They have a mild lopw at idle.

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Old 04-06-2010, 01:50 AM   #214
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I ran these cams for about 30K miles in my daily driver. Their drivability is just like stock cams. They have a mild lopw at idle.

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Old 04-06-2010, 09:00 AM   #215
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I know this is old but im thinking about these for my daily driver with mods in my sig and wondering how it is just cruising around? Also how much did it cost you for install and tune if you dont mind me asking because CJ Pony Parts has the kit for 850 bucks thats complete with cams, vavles, springs, valve seals and followers
where...i can't find them...for $850 i'd jump on that in a heart beat....
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where...i can't find them...for $850 i'd jump on that in a heart beat....
That's the standard price for them now. You're better off getting some custom grinds with more duration anyway. The FR cams are too darn mild.
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where...i can't find them...for $850 i'd jump on that in a heart beat....
I found them in CJ Pony Parts catalog. I looked for them on their website but couldnt find them for some reason but called them and gave them the part number and they have some in stock. They are a top 10 dealer for ford racing parts
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Old 04-06-2010, 09:36 AM   #218
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ahh...thanks, i'll call them.

I didn't know the price had droped so much.
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Re: Ford Racing Cams Installed - WOW!!!!!

I wouldn't call my car a daily driver much anymore, but I used to daily drive it with the cams, never had any issues. Drove it for probably 20K miles with the cams in so far. Drove it up to carlisle and down to Myrtle beach with them and it acts like a stock mach until you get into the go pedal. I would also follow his advise and just get some custom grinds, I mean they make great power (look at my sig) but with more duration they will have a much meaner idle which mine lacks.
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Old 04-06-2010, 11:31 AM   #220
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I wouldn't call my car a daily driver much anymore, but I used to daily drive it with the cams, never had any issues. Drove it for probably 20K miles with the cams in so far. Drove it up to carlisle and down to Myrtle beach with them and it acts like a stock mach until you get into the go pedal. I would also follow his advise and just get some custom grinds, I mean they make great power (look at my sig) but with more duration they will have a much meaner idle which mine lacks.
mean idle=mean loss in tq
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Old 04-06-2010, 03:29 PM   #221
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What MAF are you running?
C&L housing with stock electronics and sensor.

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You're better off getting some custom grinds with more duration anyway.
I agree. I eventually saw the light.

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This would have to be qualified because a mean idle to one person may be mild to another. A better way to say it is the meaner the idle the more tq is loss. I would say my idle is average but because I have custom cams the tq is still up there (360).

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where can you purchase the FR500 cams and valvetrain?
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Old 07-05-2012, 08:08 PM   #223
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That's the standard price for them now. You're better off getting some custom grinds with more duration anyway. The FR cams are too darn mild.
hey N/A you make custom grind cams or you just do the specs?
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Old 07-05-2012, 09:12 PM   #224
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Fr500 cam kits are no longer available. I bought the last of the kits a few years ago.
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Old 07-11-2014, 11:31 AM   #225
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Re: Ford Racing Cams Installed - WOW!!!!!

Id love to get cams for my 04 Mach, but i am not that savvy on doing it myself. guess the question would be if I were to go with Comp camps, how much would it cost to install? seeing that springs and valves for that kit were not good on stock heads. not all cams are that way when you purchase them are they?
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